Absolute A&@#hole of a Seller

[RazzaCaine]

First of all, apologies, I just want to have a rant and basically see what other people think about this petty guy Im dealing with at the moment.

So I found a cheap set of decent looking 17"s online at a decent price, which needed new tyres. I emailed the seller to find out if the tyres in my shed would fit them, which they do. I arranged to come view and buy the wheels for today. This all occurred at the weekend. I told the seller I understand if he sold them before I could get to him today as I appreciate first in, best dressed. He said he was ok waiting for me to come get them today and I again said only if he didnt mind as I wouldnt be fussed if he sold them before I could grab them.

Anyway so this morning I got called into work which meant I couldnt go grab the wheels of this guy as I had to go to uni afterwards. I emailed the seller saying I wouldnt be able to come get them today but offered to come get them friday morning and I offered him an extra $50 as well. What Im now dealing with is a seller who is emailing me insulting emails full of swearing about how Ive screwed him about, calling me a w&$ker, telling me to go get a$@e f$@"ed, you get the point. Ive responded by again explaining that the situation is beyond my control and offering to come get them friday with more money than he originally wanted and still the insulting and threatening emails come in response.

What is it with people these days not being civil and be considerate/understanding when something comes up? Its not as if I simply didnt rock up and never spoke to him again and its not like Ive done this several times to him. I gave him about an hours notice and arranged an alternate time. Am I in the wrong here or am I correct in feeling that he is over-reacting and being unreasonable?

Anyone else had a situation like this?

[soop]

Three sides to every story.
Your side, his side and the truth in between.

[Rusty]

Sounds like a website i know that sell's heaps of car stuff! Idiot's with too much time and not enough respect!

[undar8ed1]

IMO he`s been very unreasonable, that is if everything wen`t down as you described.
It`s gonna happen mate, just adjust your attitude to suit his, get a little angry, its good sometimes.

[kcpwns]

nah just be super calm and dont get aggressive..cus it'll piss him off more

[CSP]

If he's turned away other people based on you commiting to something you then didn't follow through on then I agree with him! I mean seriously, getting "called in" to work means you weren't meant to be there anyway and your response to them should have been "sorry, already got plans".

But mostly I agree with soop.

[Grennan]

Yeah I agree with CSP. Ive had buyers do the same to me and the "I got called into work" line gets old.

I was selling some VS Calais semi leather seats over ebay, they sold pretty quickly and the guy said he would be around on a saturday morning to pick them up. Saturday night I get an SMS saying he had something come up and couldnt come in till mid week. I said fine, I understand things come up. But it happened again and then again the following weekend.

In the end the guy had dicked me around and I had to put them up for sale again. After that auction ended I got a phone call from the drop kick who previously purchased them saying he wanted to come pick them up on the weekend, I told him I resold them and he went off at me.

The guy has probably been dicked around before and I know personally if i was expecting someone to show up on a tuesday morning to pick something up and he rang me Tuesday morning and said im not comming I would be upset as well - especially if hes organized his day around you.

[Clint_G]

i can see where csp and grennan are coming from but at the same time razzacaine did say that if the dude had another buyer that he should sell them. so really if the seller had another buyer its his fault for not selling them.

[HamaTime™]

Too hard to decide. Because too many people dick each other around, throwing the 'I got called into work' - 'oh I got really sick' line and you don't know the genuine reason or you can't tell who is telling the truth or who is being honest.

To be honest, if you got called into work and you still wanted the wheels, then fine friday would have sufficed, I think the seller pulled a bit of a dick move to go off at you like that on the first time.

2nd or 3rd time maybe. But seriously, if I got called into work the second time, I would have said to my boss 'sorry I have organised to pick something up that I need, I had to reschedule my plans last time, so I need to go get them today, sorry' - if your boss doesn't understand then he's a dick..

Seller pulled a dick move in this case, but then again - an hours notice isn't very much.

[soop]

Doesn't matter how much of a dick your boss is when he starts causing you greif of skipping you for things (If he's a dick he will).

Anyway, I'd have told the dude not to worry about it then. If he really did carry on like a muppet over such a simple thing, then good chance there's going to be other issues.

[acarmody]

I think the seller is being a bit of a douche here. Razzacaine told him that if he had another buyer then fine, well then there was no inconvenience to the seller at all.

I have had to use the called in to work line before, because I actually was called into work. When your a student with stuff to buy and your offered an extra shift, it would have to be pretty damn important for me to decline the shift, and frankly picking up a set of wheel (especially when I could pick them up on a later day) isn't going to cut it. the one time I had to use it, I also had my alternative day details ready and I explained my position and it was all cool.

[ari666]

nah +1 seller has the right to be pissed. nothing stopping OP from not showing up on friday.

[RazzaCaine]

as acarmondy said im uni student so if i get offered an extra shift at work its hard for me to say no. i understand that the seller would be pissed off but ive apologised and explained the situation, offered him more money. theres no need for him to give me abuse through emails. if we arranged to meet up on friday and something else came up then i would go get the wheels instead as ive already cancelled that once, but i dont understand his need to spout off at me like this for not picking up a set of wheels. its a $150 set of wheels and ive offered to go back another day and pick them up. the seller has carried on giving me abuse so ive told him to forget as i dont deal with people like that and ill just found another set from somewhere else

[ari666]

imaginary 50 bucks is still imaginary until its in his hand. he probably could have got rid of the wheels before for 150 and made a small profit, which could have already been turning a new profit by the time you go and pay him.

running a business is all about keeping money flowing, in-out. even if you break even on a sale you need to just move money. you not giving him his money means his money has stalled, thereby holding him back from further profits.

no offence, but most uni students i deal with dont seem to be very bright.

[RazzaCaine]

nah +1 seller has the right to be pissed. nothing stopping OP from not showing up on friday.

well then you shouldnt trust anyone then? so if i had been sick or had a car crash and couldnt make it you would still say "oh theres nothing stopping him from coming on friday"? i had a legitimate reason. see it from my point of view. you get called up and offered a 7 hour shift at work. your a uni student. you only earn $18/hr and only get 20hrs a week. you can easily organise another day to go pick them up, one which suits the seller, as shifts dont pop up like this at work very often. if i keep saying no to my boss when he rings me up offering me a shift then he will just offer them to someone else and ill lose out. so the option is miss the shift and lose out to go buy the $150 wheels, or work the shift and earn $125 and offer to give the buyer an extra $50 to make amends. im not the sort of person who would dick someone about. ive been dicked about selling stuff before and i know it pisses me off but i act civil, i dont go giving someone abuse over the internet for it. ive had been do this to me before and then do it a second time. when they try to arrange a third time i say forget it as ive given you 2 chances already as it is. if the seller was being reasonable i would grab them friday from him and give him the extra money but the way he is carrying on over it id rather give my money to someone else. hes acting like a little kid

[RazzaCaine]

imaginary 50 bucks is still imaginary until its in his hand. he probably could have got rid of the wheels before for 150 and made a small profit, which could have already been turning a new profit by the time you go and pay him.

running a business is all about keeping money flowing, in-out. even if you break even on a sale you need to just move money. you not giving him his money means his money has stalled, thereby holding him back from further profits.

no offence, but most uni students i deal with dont seem to be very bright.

hes not a business. this is a private seller. the guy is selling the wheels as he sold the car he had them on. its not like hes trying to make profit on them, he wants to recoup money. if he was that bothered about the money aspect id offer to wire him half as a deposit so he knows im legit. he has not mentioned money instead all he has done is emailed me insults. why would i now want to deal with him if hes going to act like a scum bag over the situation? i told him he could sell them to someone else, it was up to him to depend the sale upon me, i never told him to hold them for me, that was his choice. i dont see how he can send me all this abuse when he had the option of selling them to someone else and chose not to take it. oh and i dont appreciate you jumping to conclusions about my intelligence by comparing me to other uni students. you dont even know me.

[ari666]

that is my opinion.

you didnt ask for people to agree with you did you?

[RazzaCaine]

that is my opinion.

you didnt ask for people to agree with you did you?

fair enough. what would you suggest i do then? ive been civil. ive tried to make the situation right by offering him more money and an alternate day. how do i know that when i get to his place on friday for example that he wont attack me or something? if hes snapped and gotten nasty over me having to cancel on him then how do i know he isnt going to go crazy at me when i meet him? ive told him to forget it now anyway

[RazzaCaine]

I think the seller pulled a bit of a dick move to go off at you like that on the first time.

2nd or 3rd time maybe. But seriously, if I got called into work the second time, I would have said to my boss 'sorry I have organised to pick something up that I need, I had to reschedule my plans last time, so I need to go get them today, sorry' - if your boss doesn't understand then he's a dick..

Seller pulled a dick move in this case, but then again - an hours notice isn't very much.

i agree with this 100%. unfortunately an hours notice was all i could give him given the situation with work otherwise i wouldve liked to have given 24hrs+ notice. that said, if work hadnt of rang i would have gone and got them

[CSP]

Or you could have just told your work you had other commitments. As I have said, if you were "called in" then it's completely reasonable that you have other plans. Bottom line is YOU CHOSE to dick the guy around.

[VesperZ]

I'd just move on and not deal with the seller. At the end of the day if someone was going to treat me like that then I'd tell them to forget it. There has to be a level of respect when it comes to dealing with people. Find another seller.

[TI3VOM]

F#ck him he sounds like some little hard c#nt that wants to act tough, I bet if you went around to his house and knocked on his door he would shit himself and sell them to you no hassles.

[Cashaz]

In to the bomb shelter this thread goes. This is debatable anyway, you should have kept to your deal and he shouldn't have verbally abused you. Whether you are a uni student or not, bright or not, you do not have to go into the minor details and explain yourself to others, you are just opening more room for attack from these guys. As good as these blokes are, they do have opinions too.

My 2c.

[ssv 08 ute]

LOLOL...sounds like the anger management course is coming along nicely..

[GenReaper]

Blah blah blah, build a bridge and get over it.