yellow sticker.

[D-Rich]

so heres my little rant and rave.
i was driving around with all my boys, and the cops do the typical u-turn and pull us over.
so i've got 5 boys in my car. they do the usual checkover of my car and obviously its too low. and i told him that i have measured it at 95mm (5mm of legal) but obviously with 3 boys in the back it was alot lower. the officer reckons he couldnt fit his 60mm torch under it. so i asked if they could get out. which he refused. and im think wtf, what if i was cruising by myself and was pulled over. i wouldnt have this bloody sticker on my window. yeah and anyway, i asked him 'not being a smartass, but how is being too low actually dangerous?' and he replyed that when you go over speed bumps your wheels will spin and 'bounce'. (im thinking, other than the fact i hit speed bumps at 3km/h wouldnt all cars do this). anyway, what i am trying to get at is, how is being low dangerous? the only person i can see it would affect is me (scratched bodykit, timely curb climbing etc) does anyone have any legitimate answers for me.
oh and one more thing, the officer thought my car was (i quote) "shit-hot"
what a champion

[daron]

in sa ya have the chance to remove items and persons making it lower not that they care

[Grennan]

The law is the car must be legal height while fully laden. If you had an elephant on a trailer and your car was to low, its defectable.

So while I agree, a legally lowered car hurts noone (especially one 5 mm off) he is correct.

The only way I can see a lowered car being dangerous is if its sitting 5 mm off the ground and its scrubbing tyre and it effects cornering. First time ive heard heard of lowered suspension making your wheels spin though.

[D-Rich]

yeah. i told everyone to get out when we stopped and they went for the tasers and said 'GET BACK IN THE CAR!'
i was like settle petal.

[Vt-Brrrlina]

Live with it coz giving u a yellow sticker is easier than catcing murderers simple now back to donut n coffee time...

[VN_Luke]

The car is designed with all its's suspension to work at a particular height, and a particular amount of travel.

When you 'dump' a car all the angles change and you reduce the amount of travel in your suspension.

Other than scrubbing tyres etc - you can get very odd camber angles and weird offsets (i.e. panhard rod pushing diff to side), can run out of suspension travel and hit "bump stops" etc - all which can make a car behave very "strangely"........ Let alone using shocks that are meant to be used for 6" of suspension travel, and all you got is 1" upwards before the springs fall out lol

Now - in reality, chances of a lowering job actually making you crash is pretty unlikely, but there's a lot more to think about than just ride height when lowering a car. The old "it's closer to the ground so it handles better" isn't entierly true when you've put epic neg camber on your rears so you're only putting half a tyre on the ground...

Aside from that - various roads, speed humps, driveways, etc are all made with standards for car height in mind. - having you lose a sideskirt (or lose your shit for losing a side skirt) going over a speed hump might be dangerous for other drivers

anyway - that's some of the reasons I can think of

Downer about the canary - also downer about the laden/unladen weight thing. I swear a lot of the hwy patrol cars i've seen driving around are too low in the back with a boot full of gear and a tank full of juice!

[D-Rich]

i know its the age old thing of police picking on young guys with nice cars. but, seriously somethings gotta be done.
i dont think lowered cars are any real danger on the road, infact you have to drive slower and more cautiously to ensure you dont rip your bodykit off.
whos up for a petition?

[Vt-Brrrlina]

HAHAHA mate its something u not gunna change... the majority of em are wankers the other 3 cops are on foot patrol for bein to nice

[D-Rich]

VN_Luke thanks for your intelligent input.
is there anyway to get away with being ridiculously low? like an engineers certificate.
just thinking about the minitrucking scene with their airbag systems that touch the ground that are still legal.

[Vt-Brrrlina]

i doubt it mate .. i got done for too low... no choice but to raise car... go over pits... then re lower car...

[D-Rich]

yeah thats the plan
its stupid because i dont hoon or speed. (i know your all thinking 'yeaaaahhh right')
but i dont, all i've done wrong is have a different car, sorry mr officer for trying be an individual.

[Vt-Brrrlina]

more like sorry for takin pride in my car and people with absolute shitboxes at legal height continue on...

[D-Rich]

that my friend is pure gold.

[D-Rich]

where's just commodores 'like' button
hahahahah

[ClairBear]

in sa ya have the chance to remove items and persons making it lower not that they care

Interesting, because my brother got pulled over a while ago in his ute (here in SA) and defected as the cop told him *IF* he ever loaded up his tray it would make the ute too low.

[STEEV888]

tien fully adjustable coilover suspension with koni shocks.. "car is too low" *gets out secket* "hang on mate" *click click click* "that better"
set ya back 3 grand installed

[fkford]

What if only i was in the car? blah blah blah mate you were not just in the car, all your mates were.. Thats like saying, in the instance of a crash.. what if i had no mates in the car, my brakes would have worked better.

[Sabbath']

tien fully adjustable coilover suspension with koni shocks.. "car is too low" *gets out secket* "hang on mate" *click click click* "that better"
set ya back 3 grand installed

Yeah...try that and see how far it gets you. I got pulled over and a major defect and roadworthy required to clear it because the cop saw me using my airbags. And when i was pulled over i had them at normal FE2 height, he just bent down, waved his notebook near the sills and went "Nup, too low"

It's no use argueing with them. They've been on "special courses" so they think they know everything there is to know, and if they want to get you, they'll just call it how they want, and make you get a roady and make the whole thing your problem. 0% respect for police like this. They're there to police the law, not go out of their way to bend it to suit them.

[minux]

What a fail thread.

Fail posts all the way through.

No wonder young idiots are writing themselves off everyday if they seriously believe over lowered cars are safe.

For the record, Teen charged over four West Gate deaths this car's main reasonf or loss of control was modified suspension followed with a contribution of high speed. Had the wanker had followed suspension laws he wouldn't have killed his 4 mates. From my understandings from an officer who has worked ont he case, the car not being able to rebound effectivley caused it to skip on bumps.

[ari666]

i could read everyone elses post but cbf.

scrubbed sidewalls on tires (from rubbing guards) are incredibly unpredictable and dangerous. have one of the front ones pop on the freeway and post results (if you live)

[CSP]

What a fail thread.

Fail posts all the way through.

LOL!!! You're totally right Craig... Yours is the only post in this thread that has had any thought put into it at all.

[Sabbath']

What a fail thread.

Fail posts all the way through.

No wonder young idiots are writing themselves off everyday if they seriously believe over lowered cars are safe.

For the record, Teen charged over four West Gate deaths this car's main reasonf or loss of control was modified suspension followed with a contribution of high speed. Had the wanker had followed suspension laws he wouldn't have killed his 4 mates. From my understandings from an officer who has worked ont he case, the car not being able to rebound effectivley caused it to skip on bumps.

Fail post from you aswell. 5mm under what vicroads designate isnt the same in relation to chopping your springs so low that the car effectively sits on bump stops, so when you hit large bumps in our well maintained (cough) roads the car bottoms out and bump steers into a tree.

[soop]

Fail post from you aswell. 5mm under what vicroads designate isnt the same in relation to chopping your springs so low that the car effectively sits on bump stops, so when you hit large bumps in our well maintained (cough) roads the car bottoms out and bump steers into a tree.

Thats what I was thinking, whats that news article got to do with a legally lowered car, that sags 5mm with 3 75kg lads stting in it?

Wonder how many caravaners get defected?
How many AU falcons being driven by near retarded pensioners do you see with Caravans being driven with the rear wheels tucked up in the guards?

[CSP]

How many caravaners are hoons? How many caravaners are speeders? Your point is moot.

Craig wasn't talking about legally lowered cars...... I personally thought that was obvious.

[soop]

Well thats what this thread is about, someone who has a car that is legally low, aside from having 200kg on the back seat.
Who said anything about hooning?
The OP wasn't pulled over for hooning, he just fit a stereotype. And if you going on elderly driver stereotypes then you might as well pull caravaners over as well, as they're mostly useless.
So my point stands, If a car with three people on the back seat is 5mm too low. Then why should cars with caravans be allowed to drag the sills?
It can't be safe.

Uh, wait. It's because most of the voting populace is one hundred million years old. So if they got targeted they probably wouldn't vote for the pollies.