Another Qantas plane has engine failure

[VKCOMMO]

Another Qantas plane has engine failure

Another Qantas plane has been grounded with engine failure.

The flight was due to leave Sydney for London at 6.05pm (AEDT) yesterday, but passengers were pulled off the plane after a loud noise emanated from the engine while they were taxiing towards the runway, News Limited reports.

The flight was later cancelled.

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Earlier yesterday, passengers watched as Qantas chief executive Alan Joyce held a media conference to assure the public the company is now "100 percent confident" A380 planes are safe.

To prove the point, Mr Joyce flew the Singapore leg on the first A380 plane to return to service since the fleet was grounded three weeks ago when an engine exploded on a flight from Singapore.

But while passengers on the A380 flight to London got away on time, passengers on board flight QF1 to London via Bangkok were pulled off their flight because of an engine fault.

"The aircraft was taxiing to the runway and the pilot had an indication of an issue with one of the engines, and following procedures it returned to the bay," a Qantas spokesman told News Limited.

The passengers disembarked at about 7pm and were given meal vouchers while engineers examined the engine, but at 9pm they were told the flight was cancelled.

It is expected to leave at 9am today.

[minux]

Who really cares?

[Jesterarts]

I think this is just the media starting to chase stories about nothing.

There are plenty of planes that are taken out of service because faults are detected prior to take-off.

It's just pointless brand bashing at this point. The only reason this stuff is making it into the headlines is because of the event with the A380.

And that was an issue that was found to affect most of the A380 engines, just happened to be that the major failure occured on a QANTA's jet.

[acarmody]

Agree with both above posts. But the generally idiot can't see past the news so they will be jumping and screaming that Qantas are crap and all that.

[HamaTime™]

This whole thing about recent airline failures is just media hot air. Ever since the major scare on the A380, the media has been chasing both QANTAS and all airline failures and making a big deal out of it.

Planes 'break down' now and then and shit happens.

All just media hot air and hype, nothing to get stressed about when flying.

[CSP]

Ever since the major scare on the A380

What major scare? Smart people know an A380 can fly without one of its engines. There has been no major scare.

[HamaTime™]

What major scare? Smart people know an A380 can fly without one of its engines. There has been no major scare.

Did you even read the investigation reports? The explosion was due to a mix of oil in the turbine which blew the casing off the engine which smashed into the wing narrowly missing the fuel lines which would have sparked, caught on fire, exploded in the fuel tanks blowing the plane out of the sky.

Engine explosion is a serious issue mate. Next time your on a plane and you watch the Engine blow itself apart and realise that it could take the wing off and destroy the plane...you come and tell me there was no major scare.

[CSP]

I actually know a lot about what happened...

Plane landed safely and there was no fire. Regardless of why, that's NOT a major scare.

I'm not saying it wasn't a serious failure. But it definitely wasn't a major scare.

[Julie]

lol about as exciting as the flat battery my car had on the weekend

[minux]

which smashed into the wing narrowly missing the fuel lines which would have sparked, caught on fire, exploded in the fuel tanks blowing the plane out of the sky.

A bird almost flew past me today, narrowly missing my windscreen which if it hit it could made me turn into an oncoming bus full of school children blowing it off the freeway and killing all the kidlets.

The above example is no different to what you gave.

Media are bored and they are still mourning Labors loss in Vic, so these hot air stories are the next best thing of reporting real news

[ClairBear]

Today in the Advertiser a couple on an Adelaide bound Qantas plane out of Melbourne claim they saw flames shoot out of one of the engines whilst on the tarmac and reported it. The plane was checked over and nothing was found, however this couple decided to get off the plane, hire a car and drive to Adelaide.

The same plane flew safely here.

Personally I would fine this pair of twats for holding up a flight for no reason. Surely if flames had shot out of an engine others would have witnessed it.

[VKCOMMO]

Thats what everyone says, If there is any hint of any sort of failure, even the lift for the food trays, people will say they saw flames/sparks coming out of an engine. Its just so they can get their mug on the news in an interview at the terminal for half a second..

[immortality]

Did you even read the investigation reports? The explosion was due to a mix of oil in the turbine which blew the casing off the engine which smashed into the wing narrowly missing the fuel lines which would have sparked, caught on fire, exploded in the fuel tanks blowing the plane out of the sky.
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actually, a fuel line was severed. i have a preliminary damage report here in front of me with detailed schematic drawings and actual photographs from Airbus themselves. there was as much luck involved in this plane landing safely as much as the pilots following established procedures.

a modern jet turbine is suppose to contain all the debry inside the engine casing during a major event like this, this did not happen. that in itself should worry Rolls Royce.

as much as this is scare mongering by the press, there are some underlying design issues with the engine. minux, personally i don't follow politics in aussie and it has no relevance to this issue which is very real.

the aviation industry as a whole actually has a fairly bad record when it comes to safety. many "known" issues have only been fixed once loss of life has occurred.

[acarmody]

Did you even read the investigation reports? The explosion was due to a mix of oil in the turbine which blew the casing off the engine which smashed into the wing narrowly missing the fuel lines which would have sparked, caught on fire, exploded in the fuel tanks blowing the plane out of the sky.

Engine explosion is a serious issue mate. Next time your on a plane and you watch the Engine blow itself apart and realise that it could take the wing off and destroy the plane...you come and tell me there was no major scare.

Could of, should of, would of, didn't.

Today in the Advertiser a couple on an Adelaide bound Qantas plane out of Melbourne claim they saw flames shoot out of one of the engines whilst on the tarmac and reported it. The plane was checked over and nothing was found, however this couple decided to get off the plane, hire a car and drive to Adelaide.

The same plane flew safely here.

Personally I would fine this pair of twats for holding up a flight for no reason. Surely if flames had shot out of an engine others would have witnessed it.

'Final Destination' wannabees?

[HamaTime™]

I actually know a lot about what happened...

Plane landed safely and there was no fire. Regardless of why, that's NOT a major scare.

I'm not saying it wasn't a serious failure. But it definitely wasn't a major scare.

A bird almost flew past me today, narrowly missing my windscreen which if it hit it could made me turn into an oncoming bus full of school children blowing it off the freeway and killing all the kidlets.

The above example is no different to what you gave.

Media are bored and they are still mourning Labors loss in Vic, so these hot air stories are the next best thing of reporting real news

actually, a fuel line was severed. i have a preliminary damage report here in front of me with detailed schematic drawings and actual photographs from Airbus themselves. there was as much luck involved in this plane landing safely as much as the pilots following established procedures.

a modern jet turbine is suppose to contain all the debry inside the engine casing during a major event like this, this did not happen. that in itself should worry Rolls Royce.

as much as this is scare mongering by the press, there are some underlying design issues with the engine. minux, personally i don't follow politics in aussie and it has no relevance to this issue which is very real.

the aviation industry as a whole actually has a fairly bad record when it comes to safety. many "known" issues have only been fixed once loss of life has occurred.

Could of, should of, would of, didn't.



'Final Destination' wannabees?

I understand what your all saying. But as I said, an engine 'blowing up' with real risk of compromising the airworthiness and the overall safety of the aircraft and more importantly the lives of everyone aboard is a scare. I get uneasy in Turbulence, I would shit my pants if an engine blew.

Regardless that it didn't happen. The possibility of what 'COULD' have so easily happened should be a 'SCARE' in itself.

I don't see how you guys can't understand or appreciate my point of view that I'm saying that when something actually goes seriously wrong with an aircraft, that that isn't a 'SCARE'....

[Drawnnite]

Could of, should of, would of, didn't.

luckily. but im more surprised Rolls Royce havent had a grilling from the media about how they were what caused... (blah blah (rant at media))

the pilots would have trained for the situations anyway, they do hundreds, even thousands of hours in a flight simulator in preparation. so they are pretty sure of how to handle these situations.

atleast they landed safely, and those problems can be fixed. its better then having it blow up and life is lost, before it is fixed.

[Jesterarts]

Did you even read the investigation reports? The explosion was due to a mix of oil in the turbine which blew the casing off the engine which smashed into the wing narrowly missing the fuel lines which would have sparked, caught on fire, exploded in the fuel tanks blowing the plane out of the sky.

Engine explosion is a serious issue mate. Next time your on a plane and you watch the Engine blow itself apart and realise that it could take the wing off and destroy the plane...you come and tell me there was no major scare.

Major scare and major even are 2 different topics.

My fiancee considers finding a huntsman in our bedroom a major scare.

True, the casing on the engine did cause some damage to the aircraft wing, but it did not cause any issue that could cause the plan to come down.

Their biggest issue what actually the landing because apparently the event knocked out automatic brakes or something of that sort.

An in regards to a fuel line being severed, sparking and the plan exploding. Extremely unlikely. Aviation fuel has a high flash point and is unlikely to ignite easily.

It's a serious problem no doubt, but in terms of danger to the passengers and the aircraft in the case of the A380 event, it was minimal.

[immortality]

True, the casing on the engine did cause some damage to the aircraft wing, but it did not cause any issue that could cause the plan to come down.

Their biggest issue what actually the landing because apparently the event knocked out automatic brakes or something of that sort.

An in regards to a fuel line being severed, sparking and the plan exploding. Extremely unlikely. Aviation fuel has a high flash point and is unlikely to ignite easily.

Some damage.... that is a understatement. fairly major damage.

A fuel line WAS severed. they did loose control of a lot of the systems on that wing

there was a crash in Karachi yesterday, eye witness reports state a engine was on fire as the plane left the airport. fire is a very real and one of the most dangerous situations that can occur. this also clearly shows that aircraft are in major trouble if they loose even one engine during the take-off cycle if they are loaded. once flying at altitude then it's a different situation

[acarmody]

Some damage.... that is a understatement. fairly major damage.

A fuel line WAS severed. they did loose control of a lot of the systems on that wing

there was a crash in Karachi yesterday, eye witness reports state a engine was on fire as the plane left the airport. fire is a very real and one of the most dangerous situations that can occur. this also clearly shows that aircraft are in major trouble if they loose even one engine during the take-off cycle if they are loaded. once flying at altitude then it's a different situation

True a fuel line was severed, but I'm pretty sure that all these modern planes have monitoring devices that shut down pipes/lines that are compromised, it then divert the fuel though other lines.

[Maxxiz]

I think this is just the media starting to chase stories about nothing.

There are plenty of planes that are taken out of service because faults are detected prior to take-off.

It's just pointless brand bashing at this point. The only reason this stuff is making it into the headlines is because of the event with the A380.

And that was an issue that was found to affect most of the A380 engines, just happened to be that the major failure occured on a QANTA's jet.

Exactly! Before that engine 'explosion' happened they didnt headline every engine malfunction, now they are.
I say stfu media!

[wickann15]

You think the media would find another story to spin out of proportion. How many people because of media reports will choose to fly with another airline because they think Qantas isnt safe anymore?

[immortality]

Exactly! Before that engine 'explosion' happened they didnt headline every engine malfunction, now they are.
I say stfu media!

this type of engine failure is rather uncommon. the fact that these engines haven't even reached there first overhaul cycle is rather worrysome.

i'd certainly think twice about flying any airline that is using the A380 until there has been a mandatory safety bulletin issued to repair the engine faults. but then i've never been a big fan of Airbus at all.

and yes, Qantas has probably received a bad rep for something that wasn't there fault

[CSP]

i'd certainly think twice about flying any airline that is using the A380 until there has been a mandatory safety bulletin issued to repair the engine faults.

That comment = media scaremongering win!

QANTAS & Singapore Airlines use different engines (Rolls Royce) on their A380s than Emirates & Air France (General Electric Pratt & Whitney). Emirates and Air France A380s are unaffected.

[immortality]

That comment = media scaremongering win!

QANTAS & Singapore Airlines use different engines (Rolls Royce) on their A380s than Emirates & Air France (General Electric Pratt & Whitney). Emirates and Air France A380s are unaffected.

CSP = fail

If you read my entire previous comment (which i will repeat here for you) you'll note that i have never been a fan of Airbus so my stance has absolutely nothing to do with media scaremongering.

I'm a Boeing fan, always have been, always will be simple. Then again i won't fly Qantas any way because they have such crap service. never again on long haul.

[nathanVY]

Engines get old, they break! Get over it!