New excuse for fatties - "It's a virus that makes me fat"

[Jesterarts]

New research suggests viruses could be the cause of the obesity epidemic | News.com.au

Why of ####ing why is so much time and money spend on giving fatties more excuses about why they are fat?

I'm sorry, but I just plain don't buy all this crap about obese people not having control of their weight.

Not many fatties in countries were there is a food shortage.

Lets look in Europe where PC "can't call fatties fat" rubbish isn't as prominant, and even McDonals food is healthier than say the US.

France (land of fashion, snobbiness and fine dining) - approx. 11% of people are obese
US (Bigger is better and upsizing) - approx. 30% of people are obese

Coincidence? I think bloody not!

It's about ignorance and lifestyle choices!

I know a woman who works in a dept near me. She is a fatty! Like, obese... when she walks past I look outside the window because I am mistaken into thinging there is thunderstorms outside.

We had "health checks" at work, she came back from her check and was reading though her report which said he has high blood pressure, something fattie related with her heart and she is scientifically classed as obese.

But she denied she was obese black and blue, apparently she is "Just big bones and thats how she frame carries a little excess"

She then carried on about how she eats right and goes for walls, blah blah blah.

No shit, the next day I hear her talking about how when she gets a Mc-something meal from Macca's she likes to get it home and eat the chips with cookies and cream icecream!! And this is a REGULAR THING!!!

WTF??

1. You are fat, there is no such thing as big boned and I don't even want to think about your poor skeleton having to support of that "little excess"
2. There's the reason your fat!

I personally LOVE food, steaks, lamb, chicken, chips, salad with mayo... absolutely love it!

But I hit the gym and I don't pig out on stuff I know will get me fat!

I will eat Macca's maybe once every 2-3months and for like the next 2 days after having it I eat light meals so my body can burn off the fat from the Macca's.

Seriously, this is just another example of:

1. PC rubbish. People see me and point out I'm tall so why can't I point out that people are fat? I'm not being offensive, I'm just making an observation.

2. Research been doing into giving fatties and excuse rather that that money being spent on restricting fatties from eating fatty food. At every fast food place they should have a scale in the floor as you walk in and a laser level or something. Is can measure the height and weight of the customer and if they are too fat then no mcnuggets for you!

It's called self control people! Last paragraph of the article is about as close to the truth as that article gets.

[Bremsoe]

I agree to an extent, yes it is their fault they are fat but food can be an addiction much the same as alchohol and cigarettes some people have the will power to break the hold of this addiction and some don't.

For me I blame the manufactures of these shitty foods who purposefully add into the food addictive and unnatural ingredients just as much as I blame the overweight person.

[MasterOfReality]

People have different metabolisms. Its weak as piss for most people to fall back on a medical condition as an excuse - just about every obese person I know that doesn't exercise does this

But its up to the individual to watch what they eat - no point blaming food or take away places. They don't have anybody to blame really but themselves.

Our secretary had lap band surgery - she is back into the cokes and chips within a year.

Putting the fork down and doing moderate exercise would do her wonders.

I do accept some people genuinely have medical conditions that attribute to this, but too many people like to adopt it as an excuse.

[minux]

Jester, my weight gain was due to a medical issue caused when one is very fit only to not be able to do anything. Metabolism stalled.

Took medication, metabolism kick started and have since lost almost 50kg. No amount of exercise or good eating would cease the weight gain until I had these meds.

This said, I dare say this sort of case would probably make up .1% of the obese population.

[Jesterarts]

Yep, I agree there is no point blaming fast food outlets.

People have a choice in what they eat and since each persons metabolism is different, they should eat in a manner that doesn't exceed what their body can handle.

And yeah, there are people who due to medical condition may have a weight issue and legitimately stuggle with it.

Though in my opinion, those people would make up about 1% of the 30% of obese people in the case of the US.

[jakstas]

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa :'(

[quick308]

1. stop eating crap
2. don't eat when your not hungry
2. exercise

Really isn't that hard, I've had addictions to alcohol and fatty food, and i was able to give them up. If it's to hard to give it up on the spot slowly ween yourself off it by taking less of it every time. Then cut down on the days you have it. When i see a fat person the first thing that i think is "this person has no self respect".

[soop]

I agree.

I'm somewhat lucky in that I can eat what ever the hell I like and I put on very little weight, That's just my natural metabolism.
But seriously, if you can't do that then don't!
It doesn't even take much effort to go for a 20min walk everyday, which is all it would take if you weren't a moogajub to start with.

Go back 50yrs and see how many fatties there were. More manual labour and "take away" was a weekly treat not lunch everyday. (Mainly because the shit was too expensive but thats not the point!)

[MasterOfReality]

Its actually quite easy to pack on the lard. People just have to realise that whatever they stuff into their gob has to be burnt off.

I used to be able to eat as much rubbish as I wanted and not put on weight - but I did a lot of exercise during the week working underground and mountain biking. Coming from an italian/german family we learnt to eat like horses.

But getting a desk job, and not exercising caused my weight to blow out by 10 kgs within a year.

Simple fix - half portion intake and go walking everyday and I'm back to my normal weight range in no time.

I'm 171 cms tall and usually hover between 65-70kg's.

[soop]

I'm 181cm and 86kg at the moment.

Its really easy to not over eat. Don't eat until your hungry. So many people look at the time and say "Oh its 12:00, time to eat" never mind that you're arse is numb from doing nothing all day, your body doesn't need more energy, It will tell you when it does.

From an Italian family as well, So totally understand where you're coming from with the MASSIVE meals
My fiancee has about 1/4 the meals we do.

[HamaTime™]

Problem lies with the consumer, and in very very very few cases, like the one minux described. I grew up with a kid who was born big, ate lots of fresh fruit, veg, protein etc...and never over ate...yet he's my height of 6ft/5'11 yet he weighs over 130kg and I'm 84kg...sometimes it is genetics, but if your talking statistics, it's a very very small number.

It's all about what you eat, how much you eat, and when you eat it. At the end of the day, if you want to eat maccas 3 times a day, and generous proportions (since Maccas or any fast food doesn't fill you up as it's primarily fat and fatty acids, rather than nutritious content) no amount of gym work outs or the like will equalise it. Simple fact, because the body is not getting the nutrition it needs. To be honest, I have no idea how people thrive on so much shitty food, I feel terrible after eating it, nice once and a while but not every other day.

I'm losing a bit of a teenage gut (always had a bit of 'puppy fat') and I have a regular 3 day intensive weight training/work out.

Keeping weight off or even losing weight has alot to do with keeping your levels of HI (Human Interference food) to a minimum (i.e. processed foods)...keeping up high levels of protein, fresh natural carbs, natural sugars, and natural fats (KEEP AWAY FROM SATURATED FATS in HI foods i.e. Maccas or lots of deep fried stuff)
My regular diet is:

Breakfast: Bowl of low sugar cereal, weeties etc. with fruit, either peaches or kiwi fruit and natural yogurt.

Morning Tea: Handful of mixed nuts with a piece of fruit (Apple)

Lunch: Rice or Pasta with Tuna or Red meat - clean carbs with protein

Afternoon Tea: Nuts again

Dinner: Protein (fish, red meat, or chicken) with fresh veggies/salad. (Try not to pig out on carbs, i.e. rice or pasta or potato for dinner...worst time of the day to have it, since your body doesn't need the energy/fat at that time of the day. Protein is much better)

Keep levels of starchy carbs (potato/pasta/rice) to one serve a day.

Key Factor: Don't eat too much of one thing, a varied diet with a bit of everything in one day is important, and serving sizes are important too. 6 smaller meals are better than 2-3 large.

[CSP]

I'm overweight because I need to eat better (which over the last few of weeks I've started doing - 5kg gone JUST FROM THAT CHANGE!) and don't exercise at all really. I'm still recovering from a back injury but once I'm good to go, I'll be back into the training like I was doing in the RAAF. Once I get back down to around 95kg I'll be happy and by maintaining the exercise, I can pretty much go back to eating whatever I want. I've never eaten as much as when I was in the RAAF and it was the best shape and fittest I've ever been IN MY LIFE!!!

Exercise is the key. The right food helps sure, but the quickest fix is exercise.

[Drawnnite]

totally agree.
but there is a difference between "fat" and "fat"
when i was younger i grew out before i grew up in height. even with regular sport and exercise and so on it did nothing.
in the past few years when i grew much taller there is a big difference, but im still not to where i would "like" to be.

its about eating in the right way. at school it was easy. 2 bits of fruit. a roll or sandwich with healthy stuff from home.
no junk food. and if it was to be fast food, it would be of a healthier kind. generally where they make it/cook it in front of you.

[saber]

Its actually quite easy to pack on the lard. People just have to realise that whatever they stuff into their gob has to be burnt off.

I used to be able to eat as much rubbish as I wanted and not put on weight - but I did a lot of exercise during the week working underground and mountain biking. Coming from an italian/german family we learnt to eat like horses.

But getting a desk job, and not exercising caused my weight to blow out by 10 kgs within a year.

Simple fix - half portion intake and go walking everyday and I'm back to my normal weight range in no time.

I'm 171 cms tall and usually hover between 65-70kg's.

Hey mate, my situation mirrors yours!

I myself am half italian, so yeah, I know what meals times are like!!

i'm also the same height, but I weigh around the 74-78kg mark. I used to be lower (around your range) but since I've been hitting the gym, I've packed on the weight (and hopefully a little muscle at the same time).

Since I've taken up a desk job, I'm not where near as active as I once was. While putting myself through uni, I was working at a supermarket (in the Liqour department).
I'd walk more in a 10 hour shift at the supermarket then I would in a weeks work at my desk job! Not only that, I was always bending down, and lifting boxes.
In general, I was far more active in the supermarket then I am at my desk job.

When I started to rapidly gain weight at my desk job, I reassessed my diet.
I was eating the same amount as I was in my previous job, but doing half the amount of physical activity!
So I cut down my portion size, and increased my physical activity, and what did you know, the weight was gradually lost!

Now that I’m doing weights my weight has increased (eating as much as I can) I’ll have to reassess my diet and go from there.

[HamaTime™]

Exercise is the key. The right food helps sure, but the quickest fix is exercise.

Bad food renders exercise null. Without proper nutrition your body shits itself. i.e. puts on weight.

Exercise is important, but diet is where it all starts. Doesn't matter how much working out you do, you eat maccas and take away regularly and high fatty foods, you will not shed kilos.

[Mr_Clubsport]

lol

i went to Japan and lost 15kgs in 4 weeks...

i ate, drank, did the same, no exercise alto i did snowboard for a week...

its the food over there... its not full of crap like the food you buy from the supermarkets here lol

[minux]

Bad food renders exercise null. Without proper nutrition your body shits itself. i.e. puts on weight.

Exercise is important, but diet is where it all starts. Doesn't matter how much working out you do, you eat maccas and take away regularly and high fatty foods, you will not shed kilos.

Oh really?

I would really love to disagree with that. I spent 3 months eating nothing but pizza, chinese, souvlaki, beer, wine etc etc.

Didn't gain any weight at all. In fact the only vegetables or fruit I had were a sidedish with a counter meal at the pub while chugging down more beer. Know of many soldiers who live just the same way.

[CSP]

Oh really?

I would really love to disagree with that. I spent 3 months eating nothing but pizza, chinese, souvlaki, beer, wine etc etc.

Didn't gain any weight at all. In fact the only vegetables or fruit I had were a sidedish with a counter meal at the pub while chugging down more beer. Know of many soldiers who live just the same way.

Exactly! The amount of shit we ate when I was in the RAAF was HUGE!!! Diet is not the most important factor, exercise and being active is.

[soop]

Energy in vs Energy out.

Very simple equation. All this BS about diets is crap IMO.

[HamaTime™]

Oh really?

I would really love to disagree with that. I spent 3 months eating nothing but pizza, chinese, souvlaki, beer, wine etc etc.

Didn't gain any weight at all. In fact the only vegetables or fruit I had were a sidedish with a counter meal at the pub while chugging down more beer. Know of many soldiers who live just the same way.

Exactly! The amount of shit we ate when I was in the RAAF was HUGE!!! Diet is not the most important factor, exercise and being active is.

You must have been lucky...I've seen it happen to alot of different people, 3-4 day gym with a very unhealthy diet made them slowly put on weight...slowly I will emphasise...

But fair enough, if it worked for you then fine.
However, I still believe in a balanced, nutritious, fresh diet, and if your considering the long term good health of your body, then a fresh diet is what will prevail over an unhealthy diet with alot of exercise...despite the fact that your working it off, and 'not putting on the kilo's' - You are still depriving your body of what it needs (unless you are taking supplements at the same time)...also, straight out of the horses mouth of a Personal trainer, qualified natropath, and dietician, fresh healthy food is the winner in every case.

That part is not debatable (Fresh food is best) And you will reap greater rewards from an active lifestyle on healthy fresh nutritious food than you will with the same active lifestyle gorging on unhealthy, or rich, fatty, starchy, synthetic and processed foods.

EDIT: I'm not into the whole fad of 'diets' and all that. My opinion is just to eat fresh and healthy, a balanced diet...for many more reasons than the obvious of keeping kilo's off.

[soop]

How do you know it was an unhealthy diet that made them put on weight, It was probably the muscle the gained from spending all week at the gym.

[Drawnnite]

Energy in vs Energy out.
Very simple equation. All this BS about diets is crap IMO.

if you dont eat yourself silly then thats true.
eatting to a diet can help people with this, and its sort of an each to their own scenario

[HamaTime™]

How do you know it was an unhealthy diet that made them put on weight, It was probably the muscle the gained from spending all week at the gym.

Well one guy gained 25 kg's in 3 months, and he went from having pretty worked abs to a fairly large gut... The other two also got bigger guts and lost size off their chest and shoulders.

To clarify my point, I'm not saying one scenario or one particular eating habit will work for everyone. Everyone has a different metabolism and their bodies respond differently to different foods. If I eat takeaway regularly and cut my fresh food intake or deviate too far from my eating habits described above, I gain weight and I feel crap. Which is why I eat fresh (my diet above) and work out regularly.

Yet there are those with a super fast metabolism who put away food like there is no tomorrow and do not put on weight (maybe what Minux/CSP are referring to)...all comes down to how each others bodies process food.

My point is saying that if you eat healthier either way, you will be better off long term. Fast metabolisms don't last forever either.

[minux]

lol, if you eat 5000 calories a day and burn 2000, what are the effects? It is basic maths.

A military ration pack is healthy and has a whopping 16,000kj.

If you burn more kj then you take in you burn it off. This has nothing to do with metabolism. Metabolism just means you can take in more calories and use less eforrt to burn it off.

On a day of op's, an infantry soldier will burn anywhere up to 10,000 calories with ease. Start adding in contact drills and this will sky rocket again. It is near on impossible to burn this sort of calorie on a day to day lifestyle.

[Jesterarts]

Its actually quite easy to pack on the lard. People just have to realise that whatever they stuff into their gob has to be burnt off.

I used to be able to eat as much rubbish as I wanted and not put on weight - but I did a lot of exercise during the week working underground and mountain biking. Coming from an italian/german family we learnt to eat like horses.

But getting a desk job, and not exercising caused my weight to blow out by 10 kgs within a year.

Simple fix - half portion intake and go walking everyday and I'm back to my normal weight range in no time.

I'm 171 cms tall and usually hover between 65-70kg's.

I'm exactly the same.

I'm polish, so eating is a favored pass time along site drinking vodka with beer traces..

I was Mr.Fitness though Highschool and most of uni.

During highschool I use to train MMA twice a week, swim squad once and then skate weekends. I could Llterally eat anything and did not put on any weight.

When I got into uni, I dropped the MMA and didn't swim as much. But I was working on the dock @ Myer fragga as a box bitch and STO at the time so moving boxes and running around the whole store all day. So I could still eat a fair bit of junk, but I noticed that I couldn't eat quite as much of it without putting on some kg's... I got upto 95kg so I adjusted my diet.

When I got a desk job so I have to cut out even more goodies, no more seconds and thirds at dinner, no bedtime snack or chips at the desk.

Got tired of having to hold out on all the food I wanted to eat so instead I signed up for gym.

Now I'm a steady 92kg, eating what I want. Though I'm sure if I started eating Macca's every second night I would gain weight.

Oh, I'm 6'4"... so 92kg is pretty average.

But yeah, it's self control and eating what you body allows you to. I adjusted my diet as my lifestyle changed and my metabolism slowed a bit.