What is your view on smoking? (and cigarette warning labels)

[GetToDaChopa]

The use of tobacco is something that i have a tiny fascination in and have spent a great deal studying it.

So i've been doing hours upon hours of research into tobacco and negatives and benefits of smoking. Now i just want to get a few other peoples opinions and in general i feel like arguing my point or the conclusion that i have come to. So what is your view on tobacco.

I also want to raise another point and that is these health warnings on cigarettes. I do not believe that the use of graphic imagery has any effect on people to stop smoking. Another point is that this is an invasion from the government on peoples choices in life and what they want to do, it also a way to shock the public into thinking that cigarettes are worse than they really are and give people a false perception many of the claims on these packets are outrageous some of which i believe might be mistaking correlation and causation. I feel that the government is imposing to much of their own views on the public by doing so. Another thing i have read is that they want to make blank/clear packaging for cigarettes with only these health warnings visible without brands of the cigarette manufacturer. These nanny tactics from the government are getting ridiculous. Why don't they also tell people what to eat and and drink??? How about warning labels on Alcohol? Show a picture of a person who just got bashed in a pub on it. or a picture of a person who just got into a car crash. how about graphic imagery on packets of chips? a photo of a fat guy on the chips, just an obese, overweight out of shape person on the packet of chips. My point of view is that many people abuse cigarettes and as a result have many health problems. How many cigarettes do people smoke per day? 20? 30? 50? you wouldn't eat 50 packets of chips in one day. So as a result these warning labels are not accurate, not fare, and is an intervention from the government that has the same characteristics as the one in China. As well as the clear cigarette packets they are trying to introduce. Don't get me started on tobacco tax.

Yes tobacco abuse leads to many health risks which consist of more than just lung cancer... im sure you know what they are. As well as tobacco having long and short term benefits such as better concentration, reduced anxiety long term include lower risk of Parkinson's disease. I could go into more detail but i feel like i've written enough.

So tell me your views. And if a petition can be started about these warning labels and submit it to the government that would something that i would pursue.

[CSP]

Well this thread isn't going to last long...

[GetToDaChopa]

Thank you for your empty input.

Cant people have a healthy conversation on a forum anymore.

[VL_5SPEED]

Im a non smoker. If smokers enjoy smoking then so be it. Its not in my interest nor should be the governments to invade smokers freedom when smokers are well aware of the consequences.

[TVR-190]

Well this thread isn't going to last long...

Whys that?, Why not contribute something useful instead of being a drain on this forum for once?



Personally I don't mind either way, I just don't like it when people smoke when i'm eating at a restaurant.

In regards to the images on the packets, they don't make a difference. when i used to work as a cashier i had a few good examples.

One guy "can I have the pack with the girl in the hospital bed, so i can watch her suffer, hahaha"

[ari666]

smoking makes me cool

[wana s' charge stock vt]

i smoke- and i think if they are that worry'd about peoples health they should stop selling the farking things.... would suit me fine

but its all about money i guess



and the pics on drinks and chips is a good idea, wonder how long it will be

[soop]

I agree 100% chop.

All this stuff is doing, is giving uninformed bleeding hearts the illusion that the govt is doing something.

The useful idiots as Minux would put it.

[CSP]

Whys that?, Why not contribute something useful instead of being a drain on this forum for once?

Ahhh FFS. The last thread on smoking had PLENTY of contributions from me.

Bottom line is this. Smoking is quite simply the most STUPID thing anyone can do. It's a CHOICE regardless of what anyone says. I know people who were more than pack a day smokers who stopped over night, simply because they chose to.

Anyone that chooses smokes in this day and age when so much is understood about it (and NOT ONE THING is positive about smoking) is making the wrong decision.

Sure, the smokers will all come out and say "it's relaxing" and "it harms nobody but me" and other rubbish like that. But it's all just excuses for being in denial and not having the willpower to quit.

[2DIE]

I smoke a packet a day, I dont even look at the images on the packet.

Oh if anyone has a packet of smokes and they see the teeth one, hold it up to your mouth and talk to someone, funny stuff.

[soop]

They don't wanna quit, they don't have to quit.

So unless they're blowing it in my face, I've no issue with it.
The attitude of the govt goes deeper then just the pictures on the packet though. It's not about saving people, or money even. It's about the illusion of control. If enough dick heads think the govt has power over them, then they do.
The pictures don't impact the smokers one iota. They have more of an impact on the non-smoking bleeding heart uninformed sheeple that see them and think "What a wonderful world we live in with an organisation that saves us from all the bad in the world".

[GetToDaChopa]

Ahhh FFS. The last thread on smoking had PLENTY of contributions from me.

Bottom line is this. Smoking is quite simply the most STUPID thing anyone can do. It's a CHOICE regardless of what anyone says. I know people who were more than pack a day smokers who stopped over night, simply because they chose to.

Anyone that chooses smokes in this day and age when so much is understood about it (and NOT ONE THING is positive about smoking) is making the wrong decision.

Sure, the smokers will all come out and say "it's relaxing" and "it harms nobody but me" and other rubbish like that. But it's all just excuses for being in denial and not having the willpower to quit.

Hate to tell you that you're wrong but you are.. i just presented to you my findings, there are negatives but to say that there are no benefits to smoking is completely wrong.

[soop]

It'd be safe to say that the negatives outweigh the positives though.

[GetToDaChopa]

It'd be safe to say that the negatives outweigh the positives though.

Absolutely true. No argument there. But its a big step to say there are no benefits.

Also agree the government puts on a show for the sheep of the country to make them feel like they are doing something worth while with these laws, taxes and images.

[CSP]

to say that there are no benefits to smoking is completely wrong.

WTF? It's costs stupid amounts of money as does absolutely NOTHING positive for anyone.

Unless you're talking about the profits to the tobacco companies - that's a positive for them I suppose. But there are no other positives. NONE! And that's a fact.

[HamaTime™]

I want to distinguish between my interpretations of this:

I consider smoking: Consistently daily smoking of cigarettes Which I will never touch.

I do enjoy the very rare fine quality Cuban Cigar over a game of cards with a scotch or whatnot, or sheesha/hooka. But very very rarely.

I despise smoking to say the least...I hate the smell, I think it's a dirty look, when I deal with a professional and I smell tobacco on their breath, it's off putting as well as gross. Not to mention kissing a girl who smokes, like licking a dry ash tray...you still taste it all. Gross.

I don't look down on people who smoke, it's their choice, they suffer the consequences for their actions...But personally for me I don't like it, therefore I don't do it.

As for the graphic images, it's scare tactic propaganda...it has more effect on the non smokers than it does on the regular smokers....and it just eases the conscience of those legislating bodies who feel called to do something about the rising epidemic of smoking related illnesses. It's a bandaid fix that doesn't stem the flow of blood (figuratively speaking)

[soop]

CSP, go do some research as the OP has.
You're as brainwashed as the rest of the sheeple.

Cigarettes are shit, they do more bad then good. But that's not to say they do no good at all.

[GetToDaChopa]

WTF? It's costs stupid amounts of money as does absolutely NOTHING positive for anyone.

Unless you're talking about the profits to the tobacco companies - that's a positive for them I suppose. But there are no other positives. NONE! And that's a fact.

Why do i do this? why do i always think that you might at one point say something worth while instead of trolling? i give up.

[Ryley]

Ahhh FFS. The last thread on smoking had PLENTY of contributions from me.

Bottom line is this. Smoking is quite simply the most STUPID thing anyone can do. It's a CHOICE regardless of what anyone says. I know people who were more than pack a day smokers who stopped over night, simply because they chose to.

Anyone that chooses smokes in this day and age when so much is understood about it (and NOT ONE THING is positive about smoking) is making the wrong decision.

Sure, the smokers will all come out and say "it's relaxing" and "it harms nobody but me" and other rubbish like that. But it's all just excuses for being in denial and not having the willpower to quit.

Mate, I smoke around a pack a day (smoke rollies). How can you make calls like that, have you ever smoked fulltime?
You're right though, I don't have the willpower to quit, but it's because I choose not to quit. I won't smoke near restaurants/cafe's/ or if a baby/children are near. I only smoke by myself or with mates if we're out. Who's it hurting? ME.

Become a politician mate, you sure can speak some shit.

[CSP]

Why do i do this? why do i always think that you might at one point say something worth while instead of trolling? i give up.

I'm not trolling. Happy to be proved wrong. Find something positive to the smoker about smoking and I will admit I was wrong. Trouble is, because there isn't anything you won't be able to .

[MR.HG]

cigarettes make great stress relief, (http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...7&searchtype=a just read the harmful effects your immune system alone undergoes during times of heightened stress), add a soothing spin to the wacky tobaccy

[CSP]

Stress relief? LOL!!! Yeah, but it's not HEALTHY stress relief. It's far worse to consume a cigarette than to feel a bit stressed.

Next...

[MR.HG]

have you ever done a burnout in your car and had smoke fill the cabin? thats WORSE for you than a pack a day for 10 years

[HamaTime™]

I'm not trolling. Happy to be proved wrong. Find something positive to the smoker about smoking and I will admit I was wrong. Trouble is, because there isn't anything you won't be able to .

I have been wanting to say this for a while, you do post worthwhile stuff now and then, but the problem is, it's the attitude in which you say it. Your very very pointed and blunt and get people's backs up with your brutal opinion, which may not be wrong...(according to perspective).

If you wanted my advice (take it or leave it, I'm just trying to be helpful) rethink the attitude in which you approach people and put forward your opinions or 'contributions' which may help to redeem your already unfavourable reputation on this forum.

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As for there being no Positives? Are you sure? I think smokers get alot of satisfaction out of smoking? Some people like something to do with their hands, some like the taste, some like it for the anti anxiety effects. It calms nerves and relaxes you....But at a great cost to your health....which is the overbearing thought in the back of smokers mind...but once they get addicted it's all over!

[2DIE]

I'm not trolling. Happy to be proved wrong. Find something positive to the smoker about smoking and I will admit I was wrong. Trouble is, because there isn't anything you won't be able to .

If I don't smoke I'm very irritable and get pissed easily, so in a way smoking is good for controlling that.
I feel relaxed after smoking.
I enjoy smoking.

They are positive but I still wish I could give up, its not as easy as people thing. Withdrawals is not only mental pain but physical pain as well.