Have ford lost the plot?

[psycho_smurf]

Wandering through the shopping centre they had a new Ford Territory for some raffle prize. I looked at the sticker on the windscreen and it said Urban fuel per 100km's was 16Litres. I double checked and it was indeed 16... thats worse than the missus AU falcon, and thats almost 10 year old now. Who would buy a new 6cyl that uses so much fuel? And its got bugger all boot space compared to her wagon, (unless you can stack your groceries vertically somehow) which they as far as I know have stopped selling. Do they do this stuff on purpose to lose sales?

[Blown V6 Hatch]

Lose sales? Every second person has a Territory these days....I'd believe 16 litres actually, they're quiet a heavy rig, a darn site heavier than an AU Falcon. Honestly, apart from the few issues giving the Territory a bad name, they aren't a bad car for what they are (coming from a Holden through and through person i might add).

[CSP]

You sure it wasn't the Turbo model? And besides, the figure that means something is the combined figure. The city driving figure on most large petrol cars is always going to be high.

[General Xander]

Short answer is yes. the are moving the falcon to FWD. im pretty sure the head of the drive train department has gone completly insane

[psycho_smurf]

I can go months without needing to venture down the highway anywhere. This town is designed so crappily that when you reach 60, you just have to stop again. So city figures are really the most important to me and anyone else stuck in rock-hole-ton. I'm pretty sure I saw a figure like 16 on a V8 VE, which would be a hell of a lot more fun than a terry. According to the wheels magazine I just picked up from late 2010, shows the ford territory in 18th place for passenger vehicles sold, beaten by foresters, captivas, rio's, and even the mazda 2. The falcon had a 22% decrease, the biggest loser for the period. Commodores outsold falcons by 77percent. I'd say that's evidence of losing sales?

[50LTRv8]

Wandering through the shopping centre they had a new Ford Territory for some raffle prize. I looked at the sticker on the windscreen and it said Urban fuel per 100km's was 16Litres. I double checked and it was indeed 16... thats worse than the missus AU falcon, and thats almost 10 year old now. Who would buy a new 6cyl that uses so much fuel? And its got bugger all boot space compared to her wagon, (unless you can stack your groceries vertically somehow) which they as far as I know have stopped selling. Do they do this stuff on purpose to lose sales?

seen the figure for the cx9?

[Calaber]

You'd really need to take the Territory's figures in the context of its intended market. If it was a 4WD version, then you would expect the consumption to be high and it should therefore be compared to competitors within its market segment. What are the figures for a Prado, for example?

[Darren_L]

well the Territory uses the very same engine as the Falcon and the Falcon's fuel economy is comparable to the Commodore
so I figure it must be the Territory's extra weight etc that is to blame

[minux]

I can say this...a tuned and exhausted turbo territory is bloody brilliant to drive around in. So not very backwards if you ask me. Perhaps many do not care about fuel consumption and just buy what they like?

[nemesis_adrasteia]

thats fuel usage in an urban evironment, lots of stop/start driving sitting idling acceleration to get in front of people so you can change lanes son and so forth.

[nathanVY]

You mean ford had a plot to begin with?

[nemesis_adrasteia]

I can say this...a tuned and exhausted turbo territory is bloody brilliant to drive around in. So not very backwards if you ask me. Perhaps many do not care about fuel consumption and just buy what they like?

i spoke to a guy who owns a local performance shop, his was running his wifes turbo territory at the local 1/8th mile drags, was putting out around 400 rwhp(from memory) he said it still got very good mileages and was still comfy and nice to drive, just had to be a bit more careful on the go pedal.

[[Linkin Park]]

You'd really need to take the Territory's figures in the context of its intended market. If it was a 4WD version, then you would expect the consumption to be high and it should therefore be compared to competitors within its market segment. What are the figures for a Prado, for example?

no not a parado thats a 4x4 a territory is a soft roader they are shit off road. compare a territory to a kluger, forester, captiva, cr-v, tribeca, cx9 and cx7. I would prefer a commodore station wagon or a falcon station wagon any day over them.

[Escape-The-Fate]

I can say this...a tuned and exhausted turbo territory is bloody brilliant to drive around in. So not very backwards if you ask me. Perhaps many do not care about fuel consumption and just buy what they like?

+1, never been inside 1 but 1 morning on the way to work i was on the onramp to get onto the highway in the right hand lane and this territory came up the left side that quick i didnt even know he was there until he was infront of me..pretty quick for a bigish car

[Not_An_Abba_Fan]

If you are so concerned about fuel economy buy a little 4 banger hatch.

Fuel costs what it costs. As long as people drive cars they will pay for fuel no matter how much it is. No amount of whinging and crying or stories on Today Tonight will affect the price of fuel.

At the end of the day, most people buy a vehicle with their heart, not their head or their conscience. Quite frankly, who the #### cares if a Territory gets 16L/100? They are built to compete in a market they are designed for, just like the 'smart car' is designed to compete for bleeding heart greenie types who think it will make a difference to global warming.