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Government considers banning bullbars - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
I will go put the nudge bar on My VX just to annoy them...Bullbars could be banned under changes to the national road safety rules currently being considered by the Federal Government. The Government has invited public comment on proposed changes to the design rules for cars. Aimed at improving safety for pedestrians, the changes include the mandatory redesign of cars from 2012-13 and could see bullbars being outlawed. The executive director of the Australian Automotive Aftermarket Association says there have been similar changes to road rules in Europe. Stuart Charity says the changes will effectively eliminate bullbars on the grounds they are a danger to pedestrians. "The bullbar industry in Australia is a $300 million industry and it's at significant jeopardy with these regulations being proposed," he said. But Mr Charity is concerned the regulations do not address the issue of passenger safety. "Our real concern is that the regulations only address the pedestrian impact safety element, and not the vehicle occupant impact," he said. "Bullbars in the Australian context play a critical role in keeping the occupants of vehicles safe, stopping vehicles being stranded and so on. "The incidence of animal strikes in Australia is huge. Our initial data shows that there's around 25 to 30,000 insurance claims as a result of animal strikes a year." The Northern Territory Government said it will fight any national move to ban bullbars on cars. Transport Minister Gerry McCarthy said it would not happen on his watch. "I'm confident that there wouldn't be any changes to this policy without the endorsement of the minister's council for transport," he said. "Certainly the Northern Territory Government would be lobbying strongly against any planned changes, we won't be banning bullbars in the Northern Territory." Mr McCarthy says bullbars are essential for rural driving. "There has been a lobby from the south of the country in our major cities for a number of years, but bullbars form a very important and effective accessory on motor vehicles that operate in the Northern Territory and northern Australia," he said.
The Black Beauty
what do you expect from this nanny country
if you travel more than 1 K past the limit you get fined and then die
SPEED KILLS in victoria anyway....
Comrade Commodore
If anyone does have a 4wd or vehicle with a bar the Australian 4wd Industry Council is running a survey and they are going to donate a dollar from every complete survey to the RFDS (up to $20K). It's for a good cause, it probably won't stop us from becoming a Nanny State.
Bull Bars Under Threat
I aim to misbehave.
Banned
Bloody hell... More nanny state nonsense!!!
I just got out of a 113kph (rounded down to 110kph) in a 100kph zone hidden speed camera (Western Ring Road, Melbourne) infringement.Originally Posted by oska
Basically wrote them a polite letter telling them a three lane highway that's 100kph after a 7hr drive on a two lane highway that's 110kph was ridiculous. And that it was blatant revenue raising to put an inappropriately low speed limit on a road and then fine people for going too fast. Admittedly not expecting a positive outcome.
They wrote back, told me the infringement was cancelled and warning me to do the speed limit in future.
For the record it would have been $260 and 3 points.
the next one will be needing a carbon credit for farting
50LTRv8
Ecotec just kicked in yo
One thing I'd be interested in seeing is how many lives bullbars have saved vs how many lives have been lost due to bullbars. I'm guessing there's more of the former than the latter, especially in rural Australia.
Who wants chowder?
Damn, where will i put my light force driving lights?
Slayer of Stupid Threads
...What are the Pedestrians doing on the road anyway?
It really doesnt work in a country like Australia. I live in...the suburbs. 25 minutes drive East and I can and will see Kangaroos and Wombats on the road. Now, against Wombats, a bullbar does #### all, but a Kangaroo, that may just save my car.
Must be a slow news week. There have been so many stories over the years about banning bull bars that it isn't even interesting anymore.
Banned
What they should do is Ban them in Metropolitan area's.
Its not just pedestrians, but in a side impact those things are deadly.
There's no reason for them in Frankston.
But how do you do that, get a a checkpoint and then have to take it off? How would someone drive from the country to the city in a 4WD with a bullbar?
50LTRv8
I dont think there is anything more aussie then a goat rooter ute with a dirty big 5 poster slapped on the front, about 10 aerials of which only bout 2 actually do anything completed with the CAT mudflaps and a tailgate covered in stickers so that when traveling behind you would never know what colour the ute even is.
There may be some exclusions but for the most part most people dont need bull bars in the local cbd.
Im sure those that think otherwise may have a rethink if a loved 1 or friend was killed .
Country and bush drivers naturally would benefit from having them.
It would be very hard to monitor as a post above stated...
1would also have to concider then other side of the coin....how many lives have beed saved by having them on.??
Im sure there must be some examples where they did help
THERE IS NO SUBSTITUTE FOR RAW HORSEPOWER !!
Bugger that i'd be declared bankrupt!
Banning bullbars is a bad idea. With all the political bullshit that flies around this great big country of ours, we need bullbars to protect ourselves in case we run into a politician. Bullbars go together well with a strong windscreen, a good set of wipers and powerful wiper jets (i.e. so we can keep seeing through all the bullshit that the politicians throw at us).
Last edited by mwb235; 29-01-2011 at 05:23 AM. Reason: speling erras
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Since when has a pedestrian about to get run over by a car with a bullbar look up and go " f##k I hope that bullbar isn't going to hurt me too much"
Wiggle Wiggle Wiggle
This would be before my time but wasn't there a similar argument with having front licence plates on motor bikes and hitting pedestrians.
There was talk of doing this years ago but nothing ever come of it .
This is the kinda bs that gets thrown around caused by complete boredom or coming up with an idea so you don't get fired by some douche of a boss. I am guessing soon it wont matter if we have bull bars or not because we will be all driving around the cities at 40km an hour the ways things are going. So yeah, its not speed kills, its boredom kills.
Lack of revenue kills governments that's what it's all about.
we like the bun
they're not banning bull-bars, they're looking at introducing the european standard for pedestrian protection. it's like the crash test requirements, but for pedestrians. they fire a plastic kid at the front of the car and measure the damage. if the kid gets hurt too much, the car fails. what they're saying is the car would need to pass the test even with a bulll-bar fitted. this will change how bull bars can be designed and will require expensive testing, which means they'll cost more.
Tree cutter
A lot of the big name bars you buy now are only there for their looks anyway. They just fold back and let the fan go into the radiator anyway when you hit a roo. I have heard of bars folding back after hitting a roo at 50Kph. When i worked in the bush i kept a chain in the ute, that i used to tie around the bullbar and then wrap around the nearest tree so i could reverse back to pull the bullbar back out of the bonnet so i could get the bonnet open and fix the damage.
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Thread revive.
Censors eye ratings system for artworks | News.com.au
THE visual arts industry is appalled by a proposal to apply a classification scheme to artworks exhibited in galleries across the nation.
A Senate committee review of the national classification scheme has recommended controversial artwork, such as Bill Henson's divisive images of children, be subject to the same classifications as movies, TV and video games.
Debate raged yesterday about the recommended measure, which the art industry fears may lead to unnecessary censorship.
Paul Greenaway, who runs Greenaway Art Gallery in Adelaide, labelled the senate committee recommendation "an appalling suggestion".
"There is a line obviously that public institutions have to tread because they have a very general audience," he said. "(But) You're seeing it within context, you're looking at it in a fine art context."
Offensive works
His gallery is exhibiting Imants Tillers' Nature Speaks collection but on Wednesday will install works by controversial NSW artist Adam Cullen.
In 2008, the inclusion of Cullen's Only Woman Bleed in the Blake Prize for Religious Art prompted one judging panel member to quit and another label his work "really offensive".
Throughout his career Cullen, who in 2000 won the Archibald Prize for his portrait of actor David Wenham, has courted controversy with his works having been described as "crude" and "puerile" by detractors.
The 200-page report, released late last week by the Legal and Constitutional Affairs References Committee, says the defence of "artistic merit" is not enough to allow some controversial works of art to be exhibited, particularly when it comes to those that depict children.
Chairman Tasmanian senator Guy Barnett said the current classification system was "broken" and "flawed" and the recommendation was striving for uniformity across all media platforms. "Visual arts should not be exempt from our criminal laws and our anti-pornography laws," he said.
"Bureaucracy out of control"
The industry, however, says self-censorship is enough, with many galleries posting warning signs when explicit or possibly confrontational works are on display.
Art Gallery of SA director Nick Mitzevich said a "one size fits all" approach to classification might be damaging to the industry. "Most of the visual arts industry censors itself and understands the moral compass of the industry," he said. "I think there's little evidence to support such a draconian approach - a one size fits all. It seems it's bureaucracy out of control."
Mr Mitzevich said it was up to individuals to decide if they would view certain works and the way the industry operated allowed that to occur. "We advise the audience what is on display and they make the decision," he said.
National Association of Visual Arts executive director Tamara Winikoff hoped the Federal Government would wait until the Australian Law Reform Commission's concurrent inquiry into the classification was handed down in January before entertaining the idea of a ratings system.
She warned against putting visual arts into the same category as other media. "Between all sorts of cultural productions there are similarities, but the way the work is seen and understood is really very different," she said.
"You can't just lump apples and oranges together."
The Black Beauty
A 'Banned of the week' thread where nothing mentioned within has actually been banned.
SkyFall
We're not talking about Bands, You must be looking for the music thread.
The Black Beauty
Fixed just for you!
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