Car dealer are very agitating. Tried to raise the price during negotiations.
Has anyone ever had his craziness;
The used car manager took my car for 24 hours to get a trade in value. Let's say $x. Then we negotiate. So he gets very busy and some young chap starting writing up our offer. So he comes back rejected by both their boss and says the trade in on my car is now $Y, less then what the first dealer tells me. So the three of these guys meet my wife and I and tell me the reason they cannot do the deal (and we were prepared to pay stickerprice for the car) was they priced it too cheap because when they bought it, they bought the wrong model car by mistake and it was not as high end as they first thought.
But they had all day to get a look at my car and then during negotiations tried to lower the trade price. It's nuts.
Then I was told their cars may increase in value because of Japan supply.
Now the car was very well priced, had I sold my WK caprice already I'd have paid sticker price. If by some chance I can sell my car private for a little above their offer I'll go back and offer cash for their car.
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Wiggle Wiggle Wiggle
Supply and Demand my friend.
Welcome to the world of sales, plenty of demand with no supply............... price when up.
yeah that's a fairly raw deal mate, I'd be pissed off too.
if you had sufficient evidence and lots of time, you could take the matter to the office of fair trading in regards to them not selling at advertised price. But at the end of it all, the car you wanted would be sold, the dealer would get a slap on the wrist & you'd get stuff all compensation.
but yeah mate, I know what it's like to be stuffed around by a dealer. I went through similar crap when trading in my old crotch rocket on a later model at a Yamaha dealer.
They didn't so much increase the price of the car but reduced the price of my trade in to compensate.
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captain halfajob
rubbish. i import cars from japan, and supply has not dipped even slightly. just cos' a little fishing town got hit with a wave and a nuclear recator is on the brink of meltdown, the rest of the country is fine. auctions still running as normal. PLUS the price of a japanese car landed and complied in OZ should only reflect the cost it took to bring it here. just cos' other cars are more expensive makes no difference to current cars.Originally Posted by anonymousmoose
what car was it?
Nil Bastardo Carborundum
Your best defence against unscrupulous and unfair practice is your feet.
Walk away - they need your money to keep in business much more than you need their car.
Lexus is250
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Exhaust Guru
It's a pity a verbal contract holds no sway here. If it did, then the first deal they offered would have to be honored.
Was the price written up on the OTP at all before it was changed?
We wrote up our offer only. Even the used sales manager was supposed when they changed his offer, but what can he do when his boss does it?
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Exhaust Guru
An offer isn't binding until it is accepted, both parties sign the OTP at the bottom. Once that is signed, there is no backing out for anyone.
I'd walk. Go find another car.
Already done and I feel good about it. I'd pay sticker price for the car if I didn't have to get rid of mine. But for my own personal reasons, I can't keep both cars at the same time. If someone came and bought my caprice today for $17000 (which is a good price) I'd call the dealer and pay sticker price for the Lexus.
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Rolling on 4 again :D
Man, if you were up here and I were still lookin, I would totally nab your Caprice for $17K. It's a shame neither of those two criteria are filled, innit
Exhaust Guru
We would probably consider it if we could sell our Senator. Missus wants to sell it, I'd rather not.
As others have said and by the sound of it you already have, use your feet. The moment car salesmen get smart with me I usually say "thanks for your time" turn around and walk away. Also unless this lexus is something real special I wouldn't even think about giving the car yard my money for it, there's plenty of cars out there waiting for your money and if the one you want isn't it will be soon.
actually this would be untrue. you would not be able to take it to the fair trading (well you could, but it would be a waste of time).
The way it goes is person offers to sell something (in this case, the dealer) for a said price. someone (you in this case) go and re-offer (even it is the same price) and they re offer again/accept.
if you understood all that
but yeah, maybe take it to the managers there?
Exhaust Guru
The price of the car wasn't the issue, the amount offered for the trade in changed. There is no law that says a dealer can't change the offer before the OTP is signed.
Banned
That's exactly right... And if you don't like it, you don't have to sign - just walk away.
I did my research, for the options and value of the vehicle, it is a really good price. My fathers friend who owns the most prestigious dealership in WA gave it a look over, spoke to wholesales confirmed. But I am sticking to my $17,000 trade in. I'm not letting the caprice go for under $17,000, especially to this dealer. Even if its just a matter of principle.
I actually had to go back to the dealer. They forgot to give me back my drivers license and I forgot to pick take it.
I made a complain with the dealer in the way the situation was handled. I spoke to the user-car manager who, in my option, was just as surprised with the way his staff and his boss handled it.
I advised that I am interested in the vehicle and yet I am sticking to my offer, and that's the end of it. He said we will look into it. He said $17,000 is a good private price for my caprice and if I sell it before the Lexus is sold/given to their service-manager, I will take the car.
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