Rules on 'noise pollution'

[blacknight]

Hello everyone on the JC universe. Its was a weekend spent with the guys just racing our remote controlled nitro powered buggies. We had a mixed batch of racers and in the time between qualifiers, we had a interesting conversation with some tourists who were amazed we had this type of hobby here in Brunei. In Germany, there are specific tracks for nitro powered cars that are far away from residential areas. However our track is on public property at the end of a runway. so much for complaining about the noise.

this got me into thinking. What are the kind of restrictions (if any) if someone wants to engage in 'motorized' scale racing / kites / ATVs / scale boats? If you have a race track, yes go to a designated raceway. but if you had no access to a nearby recreation area, what are your options in Australia?

[acarmody]

The middle of nowhere, or a industrial estate on the weekend.

But off topic, up here in North Brissie we have Lakeside Raceway, where thanks to idiots building next to a f'ing racetrack, there is now a sound limit on all cars who use it. I think its 91dB or something. Basically a stock V6 Commie with factory exhaust quiet. Yeah the types of people who would use the damn thing.

[aaronevolution]

This is for NSW but gives you the general idea.

http://www.environment.nsw.gov.au/noise/neighbourhoodnoise.htm

[detox_nath83]

i have 1 and am quite aware of the noise at 30,000rpm and 100kmh on the straight, it always drags out a crowd in my street... up here in qld there is a track where they do comp racing so i can go there when comps are off..... as well as Tracksiderc in Brendale.(Bit far for me to go) but thats where i brought my 1:8 scale buggy

as well as paddocks, industrial estates and new housing estates on weekends.. or the local football club/skate bowl/ school basketball courts etc etc heaps of place to go

[Stressball]

The middle of nowhere, or a industrial estate on the weekend.

But off topic, up here in North Brissie we have Lakeside Raceway, where thanks to idiots building next to a f'ing racetrack, there is now a sound limit on all cars who use it. I think its 91dB or something. Basically a stock V6 Commie with factory exhaust quiet. Yeah the types of people who would use the damn thing.

95dB, actually. Keeps all the faster cars away The R35s that race in the Time Attack series, which runs at both QR and Lakeside, never come to Lakeside. Noise limit screws them over. That and the fact that if you spin at Lakeside, you're guaranteed to hit something.

[acarmody]

95dB, actually. Keeps all the faster cars away The R35s that race in the Time Attack series, which runs at both QR and Lakeside, never come to Lakeside. Noise limit screws them over. That and the fact that if you spin at Lakeside, you're guaranteed to hit something.

Cheers mate. 95dB is a joke, a stock LS2/3 would be pushing that boundary.

[blacknight]

Thanks everyone. I was just wondering what was the noise threshold. How about 'airspace'? Where can you fly kites / powered kites / remote controlled helicopters+planes?

[acarmody]

Pretty much anywhere. Though I would go to a large park with nice open areas. And I think there are some parks scattered around that are designated for R/C stuff.

[Decicrate]

In relation to Lakeside, it is 95Db, measured from different points around the track, not from the rear of the car with a Db meter.
Mine passes the noise limit with no issues at all, as do many very fast cars and powerful cars. YouTube - ‪Lakeside 1‬‏
Last time I was there, there was a Skyline doing sub 60 second runs, no issues with noise.
It really is pitiful that there has to be a noise limit seeing the track was there long before any of the surrounding area was developed. How stupid, buy next to a race track and then cry about the noise.

[jatsvl]

It really is pitiful that there has to be a noise limit seeing the track was there long before any of the surrounding area was developed. How stupid, buy next to a race track and then cry about the noise.

a little off topic but that pis##s me off, here in adelaide they built a new suburb right next door to to a maximum security prison, womens prison and the nut job prison , now they want the prisons moved. DUHHH!

as for the noise even if it is a designated area if someone makes a complaint to police about the noise you will be shut down and moved along.

[ucwepn]

My cars a little loud, but over the road we have evo man with his screamer pipe, and on the other side we have an older gent with a hotted up mini (original mini from 60's). all reasonably loud lol we just leave each other be

[Stressball]

In relation to Lakeside, it is 95Db, measured from different points around the track, not from the rear of the car with a Db meter.
Mine passes the noise limit with no issues at all, as do many very fast cars and powerful cars. YouTube - ‪Lakeside 1‬‏
Last time I was there, there was a Skyline doing sub 60 second runs, no issues with noise.
It really is pitiful that there has to be a noise limit seeing the track was there long before any of the surrounding area was developed. How stupid, buy next to a race track and then cry about the noise.

I know some quick cars still get out there, but not many. I've seen 56.9sec at quickest I think it was (From an S13/14, can't remember exactly), and judging by the echo back down the straight, he would have been pushing his luck keeping it below 95dB. Outright quickest I've seen was an F3 there at the Anniversary of Formula Cars event, 51-52sec. My point is more that the highest power cars tend to help their own cause by having a wide open exhaust, and mufflers aren't exactly conducive to a powerful car. Lakeside is definitely a track where massive power output is a huge advantage, considering you're pretty much wide open down the straight/kink, then between the end of the karusel and the entrance of hungry, maybe a little off the throttle just before the bridge. It's not a particularly technical, tight track, so low power with good handling is not necessarily the quickest way around.

Incidentally, the quickest lap ever set at lakeside was a 46.X second lap in a formula holden. VN V6 POWWAAHH!!

[gossie]

Pretty much anywhere. Though I would go to a large park with nice open areas. And I think there are some parks scattered around that are designated for R/C stuff.

If you fly model aircraft you NEED to belong to a club. The club gives you up to $20,000,000.00 (Yep, that's 20 million) insurance via the Australian body if you have a problem like hitting something, or someone or injuring or killing them.
You MUST also need to have permission in writing to use that space. This is Australia wide.

[Troy711]

Sounds like you need an electric RC car :P

[blacknight]

Yes, I have a few pals that run nitro powered planes / helicopters and they chose empty football fields or wide open spaces. Not so sure about a 'flying club' but we do have to register our transmitters. that bit about insurance is very interesting, i'd have to check with the club president if they offer insurance to spectators in case they get (accidentally) hit by cars