ATF fluid change
Doesn't really fit anywhere else.
My old man wants me to change the fluid on his falcon. Now it doesn't have a dipstick.
Do I just put in the quantity his manual says and be done with it? Fill it like a manual til it comes back out the filler hole or is there some other way?
Cheers for the help
Yep that's how it's done, fill it on level ground until it starts coming back out the filler hole, the 4 speed BTR in Falcons takes a touch over 4 litres. There's no point in doing it unless you change the filter and sump gasket though.
Cheers mate.
Will defiantly do the filter. 30 bucks for a genuine one from ford, better check that comes with a sump gasket though.
Also thought I would mention when you take the filter out, there is a little plastic o-ring that likes to get wedged in the pick-up hole where the filter goes and the new filter won't seat properly unless it's removed and replaced, they normally give you a new one with the service kit along with the gasket. It's not that hard to get out, if you have to take to it with a screwdriver be mindful not to gauge the soft alloy, push the o-ring inwards so it buckles and pops out.
I have done this a fair few times on Falcons I have owned so if you have any queries or problems feel free to ask.
Oh and while I'm at it, make sure you can get the filler plug off first before you try anything! They can be a real pain to unscrew after not being touched since the factory fill.
Mint thanks dude. Should be good.
Cheers for the hint on the filler plug. It's done 105k. Hoping it's been done before but service manual doesn't say
Will prob do it next weekend.
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good to have a hand operated pump or grease gun type thing to help refill it theyre a pain to change.
Ford said "we dont need a dipstick because they''ll never leak" yeah right ford.
Interesting to note that some models did have a dipstick
Originally Posted by Smidy
I normally just run a bit of clear plastic hose and a funnel down the drivers side of the car and into the filler hole and tie the funnel to the mirror if a hand pump isn't available.
The mk1 EF was the last model to have a dipstick, they were deleted because muppets kept putting the old dextron gloop into the transmission instead of the required oil and wrecking their transmissions. They still had the little fitting on the transmission for a dipstick right up until the 4 speed was discontinued, a lot of taxi operators retrofit them.
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Once the oil is in and you put the filler plug back in, you will have to start it up, go through the gears, turn it off, then re-check the oil.
I was in a pit with a mate after we had replaced his auto in his falcon and he was holding the nozzle end and i was pumping in the trans fluid, the stupid p***k shat his pants when it started to overfill and while i was pumping ( i wasnt looking) he pointed the nozzle at me so i then sprayed myself with oil, he started pissing himself and the turned around to get something and walked straight into the oil drain train that runs along the top of the pit, smacked his head and then fell into all the oil and crud in the bottom of the pit, ahhh nothing like a bit of karma.
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funny as mate. i was once filling a trans after a full rebuild, old man up in the car while its on the hoist. phone rings so i stop filling but leave the hose in the trans he hears me talking so thinks i said start it and i wasnt there hose came out of trans started pissing oil over floor. prick of a job to clean up.
I was going to use a bit of plastic pipe. Mate of mine has a gun I've used for diffs before but they're a pain.
Ford and the penrite website say dextron iii for the 4 speeds. Is this not correct?
I don't know which 4 speeds they are talking about, maybe in Mondeo, Ranger or something, but in the Falcon 4 speed autos you must use either Castrol TQ95 or Valvoline 95LE. Both brands are the same type of ATF specially designed for the BTR 91 or 95LE, hence why both have 95 in their name. Dextron can only be used in the old 3 speed Falcons. Much like the new 6 speed Falcon auto must use a specially designed oil, the 4 speed is the same. All Ford Falcon service manuals and Ford mechanics should tell you this.
Ford parts dept are useless then! I told them it was a ba xr6t and she said just put dextron iii in it!
I'll read his manual before I do it.
Went down to Repco today.
Apparently castrol discontinued the tq95.
Apparently tq-diii replaced it. But google tells me that is just dextron 3???????
Cheers for the help
That can't be right, there must be half a million or more Falcons running around with the BTR 4 speed in them, they all are going to need Tq-95 at some stage, I wouldn't be using anything else, the owners manual in my Ford even says this. I don't know if you have Supercheap Auto in NZ but you can pick up 4 litres of Tq-95 for around $40 here so surely it hasn't been discontinued. It has special anti-friction properties that other ATFs don't have. Go for the Valvoline 95LE instead if you can't get a hold of TQ-95.
Might have to go down to super cheap then. There website says they have it. Only 4l though. They got Valvoline in 4 and 1l though.
I thought it was weird that the packaging said nothing about it superseeding the tq95.
At least I checked before I put it in there.
Last edited by m1lky; 28-07-2011 at 06:32 PM.
Thanks heaps for your help dude. Using the Valvoline stuff. Will do the job tomorrow.
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