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    Hi story goes, I found a new property to hunt at but the owners said I must draw up a legal document hat states if I get injured or anything of mine is stolen or broken on their property that they won't be liable.

    I booked in at lambton law for 1pm drove 40 minutes to get there asked the question got laughed at and they didn't tell me what I needed to know quite angry with their services.

    Question is what needs to be on the paper ? Is it just the terms and both parties sign it or does it have to be witnessed by a JP or lawyer ?

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    Yeah my old boss has a farm and his kids bring their school friends along some times. The kids have to sign a document saying that the farm isn't liable for any damages to property or injury to themselves sustained while at the farm. It was drawn up by himself and signed buy a JP then just photo copied so they have a few extra copies and its signed by the children's parents before they go there.

    Fairly simple.

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    Sounds very unprofessional of the law company. Ring legal aid in your state and ask the question.

    Failing that I imagine a document drawn up by yourself stating you take full responsibility for any damage or injury to you and your property. Would have to be dated and signed by you and the owners of the property with an independant witness.


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    A legal document is anything set out on paper and signed by all parties involved. it is best to get it notarised, eg, stamped and signed by a JP, Doctor, etc that has the power to witness documents.

    But as far as what you want, I don't think anything will hold up in court, as there is such a thing as public liability. If you hurt yourself on an existing hazard on the property and you are there with the owners consent, they are absolutely liable. On the other hand, if you hurt yourself by your own actions and it has nothing to do with anything on the property, then the owner has no responsibility. I don't think you will need a legal document for what you are planning, but it is best to get legal advice first.
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    Yeah I expected more professional service from them.
    I rang legal aid they said they couldn't help me so I rang anoher solicitor they said I have the information come in next week and give us $100 I said no I need it by tonight so they ave me another number and I got the same response.
    Is it really that add to answer a 4 word question all I need is a yes or no.

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    Called up 3 more places and finally got an answer for free from cutlers law firm at the entrance.
    If we both sign it it becomes legal just make sure we are completely happy with it. It's best to get it drafted by a lawyer but it is not necessary it would just help to avoid loopholes.
    Thanks for you quick responses everybody.

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    As I said, as long as you don't injure yourself or damage your property on any existing hazard on their property, the agreement will be fine. And by hazard, anything that hinders or is a danger to people or property in while they are undertaking any reasonable action. EG: A fence has come down and there is barbed wire across a road or track and can't be avoided. If you were to hurt yourself in that situation, the property owner will be liable.
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    Liability ruins everything these days sadly. Can't do anything without insurance, and then somethings are killed due to insurance costs.

    Sad world really.


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    the reason the solicitors probably laughed it off is because they know these sort of agreements aren't worth the paper they are written on should it get presented in court. However not a very professional or ethical way of dealing with it....

    there's no set formula for a legal document.
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    type up an agreement as stated (2 copies), sign both copies and JP witness/sign them. Give one copy to the property owner and you keep one copy yourself.

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    Where abouts on the Coast are you? Should of just gone into Gossy and asked one of the firms there.

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    Around lakehaven sorta.. bout 15 mins north. Either way would have been same travel newy or gos.

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    i can give u a copy of the one i use u just might have to alter it abit
    that would be much appreciated want me to pm you my email ?

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