Making wheels fit pattern

[damoscommodore]

hey guys just bought a set of 19s , they were for a merc and iv got a vt commodore
they are alittle out of line and will not fit is there any possible way i can make them fit ?
please post on this ! as i need some help!

cheers damo

[bogan_vk]

no not safely ,mercedes pattern is the same as ford you will put side loading on your studs and snap them.

[damoscommodore]

so the best option is to get rid of them?
so sad becuase i bought them today and they are so nice

[VK SL 3800]

Yep sell them off, dont do attempt anything you'll either wreck the rims or get them to fit dodgily and turn your car into a time bomb waiting for a wheel to snap off.

[damoscommodore]

man that sucks , but cheers guys for the advise i guess there for sale now haha

[bogan_vk]

you could always buy a ford to match the wheels.

[damoscommodore]

considing im on Ls and have done alot of mods to my commodore i think ill pass mate
sell them to someone with a ford

[Not_An_Abba_Fan]

Can you post up a pic of thr wheels you have?

[Blazed1101]

prob a really stupid question, but im in the market for rims and i was just wondering what is the stud size for vy commodores? im looking at these rims that are 5x114.3 are they right size? cheers for any help

[gossie]

FWIW I heard about a person a few years ago that ground out the wheels with his Dremel tool so as they would fit onto his studs. Mind blowing huh.

[Hangman]

I heard about a guy who invaded Poland in winter. Don't think I'm gonna do it though

[m1lky]

prob a really stupid question, but im in the market for rims and i was just wondering what is the stud size for vy commodores? im looking at these rims that are 5x114.3 are they right size? cheers for any help

5x120 sorry dude. BMW wheels will fit with hub spacers to correct the centre bore (only 3 series e36 on I believe due to offset).

5x114.3 is ford, Nissan, Toyota etc

To the op I believe mercs are 5x112??? Not 114.3. If you can get hub spacers (centre bore) you can have the holes machined oval, or use hub spacers (will affect your offset) with 2 stud patterns. Not sure about the legal side of things

Like these

[BAE_007]

hey milky, where did u get the pcd adapter from? i'm chasing a 5x120 - 5x114.3 for an e46 318 BMW but struggling to track some down

[Calaber]

You could have your Commodore hubs and discs redrilled to the new stud pattern by a machine shop. I did this years ago when I fitted HQ discs to the front of my HT. It was pretty simple and was perfectly safe, because the new stud holes were drilled in between the existing stud holes. If you really want to keep those wheels (and assuming they have the correct offset), you could consider this option, though there would be a fair bit of work (and maybe cost) involved.

[vkberlina]

Stick a 9" in the back with ford axels Thats the rear sorted

I wonder what wheel bearings the fords use? You might be able to fit complete ford bearings and front discs

Scott

[vx-lnickels]

hey calaber, im thinking of doing this as i have just bought a hq panelvan, and want to put an old set of 18's that were on my VX. whats the best thing to do? hubs n discs re drilled? or will a hub spacer work like pictured above? how much am i looking at for both?
cheers

[bogan_vk]

dont use a hub adapter those things are illegal and crap google some pics of what happens when they let go,as caliber said better off getting your discs redrilled and new studs fitted its alot safer.

[vx-lnickels]

ok thanks alot for the advice, do you have any idea where this can be done? and rough price?

[Calaber]

hey calaber, im thinking of doing this as i have just bought a hq panelvan, and want to put an old set of 18's that were on my VX. whats the best thing to do? hubs n discs re drilled? or will a hub spacer work like pictured above? how much am i looking at for both?
cheers

You will need to have both rear axles and drums redrilled, plus both front hubs and discs. On my HT, I fitted HQ discs on the front and left the rear axles and brakes standard. I needed to fit the HT rims to the HQ hubs. Because you are drilling a five stud hub/axle/disc with five new stud holes, you can safely have the new holes drilled evenly between the existing stud holes. It may not be the cheapest but it's certainly the most legal way of doing things. Your VX wheel offset will be different to the HQ so you would need to see how the rim will sit on the axle before doing any work.

You can easily check this. The HQ and Commodore stud patterns are only about 1mm different and it's not wise or safe to simply bolt Commodore wheels onto an H Series, but to check how the wheel fits, you can do a dummy run by fitting the Commodore rims and screwing the nuts up until they contact the rim lightly. (It would be easier if the studs protruded out past the wheel centres but they probably wont), so don't tighten the nuts fully - you just want to check the wheel fitment in relation to the body.

I wouldn't use spacers as they are probably illegal and not as safe as redrilling and I can't help with the cost - a competent machine shop would be the best bet for a quote.

[sleepyjean]

even a brake upgrade and have ford stud pattern in the upgrade