advice on failing to signal to right

[Justanotherholdendriver]

above is a shitty diagram of where and how i failed to give signal to right when overtaking, what i am wondering as if i should contest it due to the following circumstances.

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1. driver in front of me failed to indicate until the last second
2. i did not fully change into the right lane i only crossed slightly
3. even though the police will claim i wasn't 2-3seconds behind the car(safe distance) i was, and in my mind it as the roads were slightly wet it was better for me to go around and keep two hands on the wheel rather than indicate for a brief second.

Thanks.

[Dum*P*ster]

Is the other lane heading the same way you are, or is it facing you with oncoming traffic?
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[Justanotherholdendriver]

other lane is facing but with no oncoming traffic, it happened at about 11.30 at night the only cars on the road were the one infront of me and the undercover police car behind me

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[Jonno]

was their traffic coming your way? was it a sold or dashed line

[Justanotherholdendriver]

dashed line and no oncoming traffic

[CapriciousWL]

You've got a fine for not doing something required by law - if you contest it I'm sure they would then talk about not following at a safe distance etc.

Take it on the chin.

I had a guy at work recently do a similar thing except as a result he had a head on. Better off anticipating the other drivers stupid actions on crowded streets.

There may (in your opinion) have not been anything you could do other than cross the centre line, but without indicating and at a relatively low speed (I'm assuming suburban street) it may have been better to slam on the brakes and give the other driver a scare when they see you closing in on them. Done that a few times and the expressions on faces are priceless. The main thing is not to make contact as you would then be traveling too close..

[Justanotherholdendriver]

was going around 55 in a 60 zone, so even though i only slightly crossed the middle dashed line that's still counted as needing to indicate?

[Bravotwozero]

was going around 55 in a 60 zone, so even though i only slightly crossed the middle dashed line that's still counted as needing to indicate?

Answer is yes, you have to indicate. Pretty unlucky to get done for it though.

[gopher]

i think the fine was justified

[Justanotherholdendriver]

alright, well thanks anyways.

[pjdm1980]

I'd probably consult a lawyer to get some professional advice, personally I'd take it on the chin and learn a lesson (be a bit more patient).

1. driver in front of me failed to indicate until the last second

1. You are responsible for the keeping a distance from the car in front (I assume he had brake lights) and Refer to point three.

2. i did not fully change into the right lane i only crossed slightly

2. Could you have slowed slightly to let the vehicle turn then drive past.

3. even though the police will claim i wasn't 2-3seconds behind the car(safe distance) i was, and in my mind it as the roads were slightly wet it was better for me to go around and keep two hands on the wheel rather than indicate for a brief second.

3. If you had a three second gap between you what was the speed zone?

[Justanotherholdendriver]

i was in about a 2second gap, safe distance or so i though,
60zone

[Grennan]

i think the fine was justified

Ditto.

Im surprised a copper has fined someone for not indicating tbh. Wish there was more of it.

[ari666]

3. even though the police will claim i wasn't 2-3seconds behind the car(safe distance) i was, and in my mind it as the roads were slightly wet it was better for me to go around and keep two hands on the wheel rather than indicate for a brief second.

AHAHAHAHA!

is this what other people think while they are driving??? no wonder there are so many stupid accidents and congestion.

can i translate?
"even though i was tailgating the guy in front, i couldnt be bothered indicating cos' i drive down the same road everyday and there is usually no one around to bother me"

since when do you have to take your hand off the wheel to indicate???

[ClairBear]

"even though i was tailgating the guy in front, i couldnt be bothered indicating cos' i drive down the same road everyday and there is usually no one around to bother me"

since when do you have to take your hand off the wheel to indicate???

This. You got busted and like so many do, are trying to find a loophole to contest it. You broke the law now pay up.

[Calaber]

Yep, sorry mate, but I have to agree with the others. You admit it was wet at the time so your distance from the car in front should have been greater than you allowed yourself. By any measure, you took evasive action that prudent driving could have prevented.

[STEEV888]

that thing next to your accelerator is a brake pedal, its used for such instances.
"keeping two hands on the wheel" "unsafe to indicate" grow up fool.

[monkeys437]

Technically you should indicate in that circumstance. Just think if a car is behind you driving slightly faster and decides to fully change lanes at the same time that you veer into the right, your gonna be in a bit of trouble.

I accept that in some circumstances its a bit of a formality, but if you run the risk of getting lazy i guess you gotta cop the fine

[Reaper]

above is a shitty diagram of where and how i failed to give signal to right when overtaking, what i am wondering as if i should contest it due to the following circumstances.

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1. driver in front of me failed to indicate until the last second
2. i did not fully change into the right lane i only crossed slightly
3. even though the police will claim i wasn't 2-3seconds behind the car(safe distance) i was, and in my mind it as the roads were slightly wet it was better for me to go around and keep two hands on the wheel rather than indicate for a brief second.

Thanks.

You are obligated to keep a large enough gap that you can slow down if required if (for example) the car in front jumped on the brakes. Either you take the fine for failing to indicate or failing to keep large enough gap or even possibly careless driving. You may even end up with all 3. I'd cop the indicator one myself.

As for 3, you have convicted yourself by your own statement. If you couldn't slow down safely on a slightly wet road then you were too close. 2 - 3 seconds is a guide only and you need to allow more in adverse conditions.

Reaper

[Reaper]

i was in about a 2second gap, safe distance or so i though, 60zone

It appears you thought wrong.

Reaper

[Torquative]

Technically you should indicate in that circumstance. Just think if a car is behind you driving slightly faster and decides to fully change lanes at the same time that you veer into the right, your gonna be in a bit of trouble.

This happened on Crash Investigation Unit last week.

Basically a P plater in a ute had overtaken another P plater in a Supra who was slowing down for a ditch so he didnt bottom out his car, so further up the road when the Supra caught up he went to overtake the ute for whatever reason, but *supposidly* the ute was pulling out at the same time to overtake a slower car in front of him.

End result was they both met somewhere in the middle of the road, both hit the same tree at a tad under 60kph and the bloke in the Supra went night night.

[304runner]

Yeah, you must intricate if you move more then 1 meter left or right anyways.... Regardless if you're still in your lane......