Petition against RTA

[ice_cold17]

hey all sorry if this is in the wrong section,please move it to the right one if its not. the RTA is bringing in new harsher laws to stop us modifying our cars too much,so im starting a petition about it and will send it off to the appropriate sources,if anyone can sign it that would be great. basically they will require engineers certificates for almost any mod,this includes performance,wheels and suspension,body mods etc. would be great for some support guys,also i have a facebook group going about it,so if you would like to be added please let me know your name and il add you so you can discuss this matter to others.

Stop the RTA changing the system for modifying cars. - Petition Online - Australia

thats the petition,any help would be great,thanks guys

[acarmody]

Because the RTA will give a toss what other people think!

[VK SL 3800]

From what ive heard, the new laws will be brought in along with laws giving mechanics (blue slip accredited) the right to issue a sort of engineers certificate i guess for little mods like wheels and lowering. Which supposed to be $100 or less.

[ice_cold17]

it wont stay like that,it will get even harsher,if you lower it has to be within a certain height,and wheels wont be allowed in excess of a certain size,and if its bigger than the stock wheels that it came out with you will need a certificate,but if you go and spend like a shitload on stuff like that,the last thing you want is to pay $100 just to see if its road worthy,and if its not,then your screwed.

[acarmody]

it wont stay like that,it will get even harsher,if you lower it has to be within a certain height,and wheels wont be allowed in excess of a certain size,and if its bigger than the stock wheels that it came out with you will need a certificate,but if you go and spend like a shitload on stuff like that,the last thing you want is to pay $100 just to see if its road worthy,and if its not,then your screwed.

Ummm, if its not roadworthy you screwed (and an idiot) anyway.

[1SIKR8]

signed buddy

[wraith]

Best of luck to you mate. Too bad only hoons modify their cars now days.

[ice_cold17]

Ummm, if its not roadworthy you screwed (and an idiot) anyway.

yea but would you call lowering your center of gravity un roadworthy? coz when you lower the car thats what happens,and that provides better handling,not to mention bigger wheels and wider wheels provider greater surface area on the road which is safer,and to an extent bigger wheels can save fuel,which in turn lowers emmissions which they are trying to prevent anyway,i agree if its un roadworthy then it shouldnt be driven but to go to an extent where most mods have to go through such a strict checking is ridiculous,lowering your car,putting bigger wheels,slapping on kits,exhausts,these shouldnt have to go through big checks like this.

the thing is with hoons modifying cars,it gives enthusiasts a bad name,coz the RTA thinks that just because we modify our pride and joy to make it unique means we are just like every other teen hoon with a "fully hectic exhaust and sound system bro" and that all we do is make it dangerous for everyone else

[acarmody]

yea but would you call lowering your center of gravity un roadworthy? coz when you lower the car thats what happens,and that provides better handling,not to mention bigger wheels and wider wheels provider greater surface area on the road which is safer,and to an extent bigger wheels can save fuel,which in turn lowers emmissions which they are trying to prevent anyway,i agree if its un roadworthy then it shouldnt be driven but to go to an extent where most mods have to go through such a strict checking is ridiculous,lowering your car,putting bigger wheels,slapping on kits,exhausts,these shouldnt have to go through big checks like this.

the thing is with hoons modifying cars,it gives enthusiasts a bad name,coz the RTA thinks that just because we modify our pride and joy to make it unique means we are just like every other teen hoon with a "fully hectic exhaust and sound system bro" and that all we do is make it dangerous for everyone else

I get what your saying. And I should point out that I'm not against this, just saying its kind of pointless because the public has no leverage over the RTA.

There are a LOT of idiots though that give everyone a bad name, every day there are threads started here about how to slam your car so low you swear it has worms, or how to fit 22" wheels to a VN. Not to mention the uncountable number of threads on how to modify your car while on P-plates.

I would almost be willing to bet the the enthusiasts are actually in the minority by quite a bit here.

[ice_cold17]

just saying its kind of pointless because the public has no leverage over the RTA.

well the thing is that there is a company that is full of people that does have leverage against them,and that is who i will be sending the petition to,you can send comments to them as well about this and any questions you have on the matter their website is Australian Confederation of Motor Clubs (ACMC) - Home Page just go to the contacts section

[acarmody]

well the thing is that there is a company that is full of people that does have leverage against them,and that is who i will be sending the petition to,you can send comments to them as well about this and any questions you have on the matter their website is Australian Confederation of Motor Clubs (ACMC) - Home Page just go to the contacts section

I still fail to see how they have leverage against the RTA? What are they going to do? Say, "give us what we want or all our supporters will stop driving"????

[Crisis63]

Nothing wrong with speaking out about it,. If it gets in with no opposition then they will say it was widely supported. They misuse facts like that.
If enough people complain they may change some aspects. It does happen.
In any case screw them and there interfering. Motorists are easy targets. At once cash cows and whipping boys. The government suck money from us at every turn under the contrived premise it is a privilege to drive. They label and then marginalise anyone with a remote interest in performance cars and/or motor sport as hoons. This convenient generalisation ensures the mindless sheep view the mere spinning of wheels of audible exhaust in the same context as street racers.
Unless of course it is something hi profile that they can claim injects money to the state and makes them look good i.e. Grand Prix, V8 supercars and various rallies that get significant media coverage.
Signed.

[ToMMMaY]

They could Actually make something like this work Tho
My car myself if i get pulled over it will be a mission to take all the defects off it lol

But I would pay a small fee for a Certificate or Sticker to get the cops Off your back(Then i can actually feel safe to Drive my car Whenever Where ever)
Seems like This would make a Wide Variety or people that could also do it unlike the Engineers atm charging through the Roof these days So there will be competetion
But My knowledge with what will happen will not help us in anyway possible
They wont stop till everybody is driving Stock cars

[dirt drifter]

signed..

from what i've read the cost of engineering will go up and they're not making it easy for engineers to be certified under this new scam (requirement for big public liability insurance coverage for starters)

its got me stuffed why the rta would do this quietly, if they made a big song and dance about it saying it was going to get dangerous cars off the road and stop hoons etc etc i could understand their motives.

we all know that all they care about is getting as much of our money as possible, and us modified car owners give them (rta and government) a fair bit of cash.. rego, taxes on fuel, paying gst on parts and labour, extra income tax from the higher paying/second jobs we get to have the money to build our toys.

i dare say most cars that are modded enough to need an engineers certificate would be lucky to see the road once a month. the rta is getting $1000 odd a year in rego fees for a car that barely ever see's the road. money for nothing and they want to put a stop to it?! i fail to see their logic here

[calais24/7]

signed....

[Troy711]

Best of luck to you mate. Too bad only hoons modify their cars now days.

Haha good call!

[FstStig]

Isn't this old news? Like there was discussion about this last month and since nothing has been said or heard by the RTA. Doubt it will go ahead, stress less mate. If its going to happen, its going to happen no matter how many petitions you make.

[87RB30VL]

I read about this in Street Machine, or Street Commodores, one of the 2. I'm going to sign it. It's bullshit if you ask me.

[VL_5SPEED]

Any mod is basically defectable already if the cop wants to be a prick

[Mbro]

signed mate

[Jebadayah]

They could Actually make something like this work Tho
My car myself if i get pulled over it will be a mission to take all the defects off it lol

But I would pay a small fee for a Certificate or Sticker to get the cops Off your back(Then i can actually feel safe to Drive my car Whenever Where ever)
Seems like This would make a Wide Variety or people that could also do it unlike the Engineers atm charging through the Roof these days So there will be competetion
But My knowledge with what will happen will not help us in anyway possible
They wont stop till everybody is driving Stock cars

Kind of contradictary there mate, if your car has that many defects, you wouldn't pass the inspection for the certificate or sticker. And the cops wouldn't be "on your back" if your car was roadworthy and legal in the first place

[MACE]

This level of enforcement was bound to happen (as I've mentioned about ADR legal boundaries many times over the years)

In saying this though there are definitely greater social/road safety issues which the state government should be focusing on besides this, so I've signed