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    Hi all
    Is it unethical if i were to sell a car to someone who offered me a bit more money
    over someone who genuinely came and looked at it and was very interested and is
    comming back tomorrow for a test drive once fuel is in it???

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    Depends how much is it and what you promised the first guy? If it's not officially sold I don't really think it's got anything to do with ethics?

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    well its only my vt berlina that i was selling for 2100 and this guy offered me 1500 and is comming tomorrow where as someone else offered me 1700 in cash, there was no deposit or promise that i would keep it but i dont want to seem like a jerk or anything for selling it although no deposit or promises were made
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    Did you tell the first bloke you would hold it for him, even though there was no deposit. If you didnt say anything about holding it, no verbal agreement, I say sell to which ever one coughs up the cash first.

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    money talks. bullshit walks


    decide on how much you want and sell it to the first guy that puts that amount in your hand. TRUST Me. dont ever believe someone that says (sight unseen) they will give you more if you hold on.

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    Tell the first guy that you have had an offer of $1700 and see if he will match it. If not, sell it to the second guy. No ethics involved, just business.
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    Rule of thumb:

    If you have to ask if it's ethical, then it's probably not.

    I'm assuming that the only reason the first bloke didn't get to drive it is because YOU didn't have fuel in it.

    Bit of a #### act if you sell it to someone else now since him having to come back AGAIN to see the car is because you didn't have it ready for sale.

    You atleast should see if the first buyer can match or get close to the 2nd offer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Not_An_Abba_Fan View Post
    Tell the first guy that you have had an offer of $1700 and see if he will match it. If not, sell it to the second guy. No ethics involved, just business.
    I agree with this. The first bloke wanted to buy it from you for 600 less than you were asking, then wants you to hang onto it until he can drive it. No deposit, no guarantee he will purchase.

    Second buyer comes along and offers higher price, on the spot.

    Pretty simple really. If you have any misgivings, see if the first buyer will match or better the second's offer. If not, bad luck.

    You're trying to sell your car for the best price, not run a charity.

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    nice guys finish last. take the 1700, the other guy will have to find another car. its not like anyones getting hurt.

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    If I want a car held, I put down a deposit and get the agreed price in writing.

    If the guy who's "coming back" to drive it hasn't put any money down he might see a better deal and go with that instead. If he makes an offer, you accept, and then he walks off without putting cash down then you have no moral obligation to give him the same sale price when he comes back later

    Theres no deposit and nothing in writing then its still for sale and the price isn't set

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    where only good as society lets us be

    Thats a Fact!
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    It would have been “nice” if you had rang the other guy and informed him that you had a better offer. But if his offer was less I don’t think it is so much an ethical issue what you did. More one of courtesy.
    When I looked at the CV8 I finally bought another guy had just left checking it out. Later that day the owner rang me and said that the other potential buyer was coming back during the week to get an RAA check and if I wanted it to get him a deposit. First in first serve. I kinda got the impression he wanted to sell it to me instead of the other guy. I went back with my bro and he checked it out for what it was worth and I took it. I think that actually was a bit of a c@#* act on the other guy but too bad. I’m happy!

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    who cares, if the 1st guy didnt put a deposit down then bad luck i say. ive had enough enough time wasters in my lifetime that say they'll come back the day after and dont.
    all i would do is inform the first guy that a better offer has come along

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    Quote Originally Posted by PRAVX II S View Post
    where only good as society lets as be

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    Err no, that is not a fact. That is shocking grammar!

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    In reply to what jester said i did inform him on the phone it had no fuel if he wanted to wait till tomorrow (today) i would put fuel
    in it for that and he understood that and still wanted to come last night.

    So i take it, that i should just sell it to whoever gets here first OR explain to the first guys i have had a better offer and ask if
    they would like to match it??
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    Quote Originally Posted by vsowner94 View Post
    Hi all
    Is it unethical if i were to sell a car to someone who offered me a bit more money
    over someone who genuinely came and looked at it and was very interested and is
    comming back tomorrow for a test drive once fuel is in it???

    Also feel free to bring up your own ethics questions or stories, would love to hear
    them all
    It depends. If you have taken a deposit for the car then you are obligated to sell the car to the deposit payer. If there is no deposit and you hadn't agreed to hold it for the other buyer then first person to come up with the money gets the car IMO.

    If you had taken a deposit for the car then technically the deposit payer can go you for either the car, return of the deposit plus any costs they may have incurred along the way although usually a return of the deposit and an argument is all that happens.

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    You know what, I'm going to go out on a limb and say to sell it to the second guy. You don't know the first guy from a bar of soap so why should you lose money because you think it's the right thing to do. Who cares if you hurt his feelings, do you know him personally? No. Get as much money as you can. After the day I've had today I'm going to jump on board the 'fk it' boat.

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    if you havent said you will hold it sell it for $1700, or tell the first guy its for $1700 and see if he will go to $1750 then tell the second guy someone else wants it for $1750 then he will go 1800 and you get an extra 100 out of him. lol dont do that it wont work.
    My mate was going to buy a XR6 for $4 grand and the bloke said he would hold it for 2 days till it was ready to go, then when he called the bloke saying he would be round to pick it up in the arvo and give him the cash the guy said that he already sold it a few hours before.. now that aint right

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julie View Post
    Err no, that is not a fact. That is shocking grammar!
    Indeed, and that’s saying something in a place where grammar has long been condemned to her nursing home….

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    Generally when I sell something if someone makes me an offer but decides to pick it up later I usually tell "them no worries but if I get offered something better in the mean time then I'll let them have it". The way I look at it is if you put an offer to someone then you need to be prepared to finish the deal there and then otherwise don't be upset if someone comes along and grabs it from under you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shooter 88 View Post
    My mate was going to buy a XR6 for $4 grand and the bloke said he would hold it for 2 days till it was ready to go, then when he called the bloke saying he would be round to pick it up in the arvo and give him the cash the guy said that he already sold it a few hours before.. now that aint right
    Why not? The guy had probably been screwed before and saw the opportunity to sell his car. I know I'd sell something if the cash was sitting right in front of me rather than hold off for someone who might not come back.

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    I bought my S13 for $4,250 and put it on the net for $6,000 so when people haggle me down, I'm still on top lol, But when I was selling mine, this guy wanted to come back from the coast to look at it again, but only said he's pay me $3,500 for it, so I just told him to get ####ed. It's more courteous than ethical to ring people back and be like "Hey dude if you can beat this new offer of $1,700 you can have it" like people have said, save him coming back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy711 View Post
    Why not? The guy had probably been screwed before and saw the opportunity to sell his car. I know I'd sell something if the cash was sitting right in front of me rather than hold off for someone who might not come back.
    when you put it like that it sounds fair enuff, except that he had already said that he would buy it and asked to hold it for 2 days untill he had all the money and background checked the car. then he sold it on him

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shooter 88 View Post
    when you put it like that it sounds fair enuff, except that he had already said that he would buy it and asked to hold it for 2 days untill he had all the money and background checked the car. then he sold it on him
    Who gives a toss? If I sell something, it's to the first person that gives me what I want for it... People get screwed over because they let their feelings get in the way and feel bad for people.

    Number 1 tip for life: THINK OF YOURSELF FIRST!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rufys View Post
    Who gives a toss? If I sell something, it's to the first person that gives me what I want for it... People get screwed over because they let their feelings get in the way and feel bad for people.

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