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    Something that usually annoys me is whenever peole talk about the "rehabilitation" or criminals, etc.

    This individual went to jail and was released on parole, which suggests to be someone muppet somewhere decided he was "rehabilitated".

    Here is the result:
    'Danger man' tortured girls with lit aerosol before stabbing mum to death

    Discuss.

    My opinion is once a scumbag, always a scumabg. Lock them up, throw away the key. Sure prisons will start to overflow but that will be a good reason to bring back capital punishment.

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    although it depends, a pedophile or murderer are pretty much going to get out and do the same thing.

    but in some cases drug dealers, car thieves, regular thieves some times come out "rehabilitated"

    i highlighted the word "some" to make the point not all are.

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    I work with ex offenders. Some try very hard and succeed to get their life back on track by holding down a job and living a life free of crime. The issue is keeping away from associates, sometimes family, who are still entrenched in that way of life. I recall one client who was put into a half way house with a fist full of dollars and a change of clothes. The first night out his lovely room mates stole his money and clothes. As he said "you just go backwards and end up doing a job to get you through."

    There are lots of employers who will not give an ex con the chance of employment once the police record is sighted. Another guy I recall vividly did 10 years for setting a paedophile on fire. Did his time peacefully and was paroled early. Got a job in a large hospital cleaning and was so happy, finally moving on. 3 months in after much praise from his Superiors about his work ethic and performance someone realises he had not presented a Police clearance. End of the story - he got terminated.

    Having said that I also deal with more scumbags who thumb their nose at the system and are career criminals tying up courts with repeat offences. Just shoot the bad ones I say.


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    Anyone can be rehabilitated, to a point.

    Being messed up in the head is the same as a drug addiction, something you will have to fight against forever, but it can be done.

    The hearing continues, if the psych's see this as a isolated attack they have nothing to keep him on, while it seems stupid, there are laws, act's etc that the magistrate, officers involved, lawyers & psych's must be abide by.

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    there is bad people and then is Bad people, sometimes people are caught in the wrong and understand what they have done and how it was wrong, people like these can be rehabilitated, But other people who are just scum that do wrong because they can and kill/torture/hurt or whatever people for no reason at all deserve no place in society and can be locked up for good.

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    Some people are just sick and evil and no so called rehabilitation will ever change that. So it would be good If the courts could impose life without parole in more cases. Prime example is mass murderer Julian Knight who is eligible for parole soon despite no motive for his killings and never a shred of remorse

    But the majority of criminals in the prison system are either drug users or suffer mental illness (schizophrenia, paranoia, etc.) so for them a stretch in prison is a chance to get clean from their addiction and to get psychiatric help and be appropriately medicated so they can lead a normal life. So I guess for most criminals rehabilitation is possible

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    “People aren’t bad, they just do bad things.”
    I try to subscribe to this belief but it is difficult.
    My understanding is that our system is supposed to be one where offenders are incarcerated in the hope they will be rehabilitated and not reoffend as opposed to be punished. This is a noble ideal.
    There appears to be a fundamental problem with the way this is administered. Those found guilty of a crime are sentenced to serve a set amount of time in prison and the maximum sentencing periods are pre determined. This being the case it appears to presume the amount of time that will need to be taken to rehabilitate the individual in question. It ignores that fact that everyone would probably need a varying amount of time for this to be effective and of course there are cases where some may never be rehabilitated.
    If one is found guilty of a serious crime I don’t believe they should be released until professionals have agreed that the person has exhibited the necessary traits to suggest they have been rehabilitated.
    I am also of the belief that while the rehabilitation imperative is desirable there are some who should neither be incarcerated for rehabilitation or necessarily for punishment. There are some as alluded to in your link who should simply be removed from society so they may never hurt anyone again.

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