Is the Epica Holden lowest volume selling vehicle?

[pjdm1980]

There's a Epica that has been getting around our area for a few years but I think it's the only one Holden has ever sold because I've never seen another one, it must be one of the least popular models ever made by Holden and maybe the original Cruze (Suzuki Ignis).
So what Holden worst selling car ever?

[Drawnnite]

well do you count cars they were going to put into production that backed out?
like the HRT 427 (1 made)
Torana GTR-X (next to none)

[Reaper]

well do you count cars they were going to put into production that backed out?
like the HRT 427 (1 made)
Torana GTR-X (next to none)

I would suggest it would include cars that were officially on sale to the public by Holden which neither of the above were. Hard to know exactly but race homologation specials aside (such as XU1, A9x, L34, Group A etc) I'd vote the Suburbans they tried to sell in the early 90's.

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[Bravotwozero]

I'd have to say the JB Camira.

[Reaper]

I'd have to say the JB Camira.

wtf??? Sold tens of thousands of them.

Reaper

[crazyspoon05]

I'd be thinking Piazza or the Starfire Commodore...

[CapriciousWL]

wtf??? Sold tens of thousands of them.

Reaper

May have sold many, but the criteria listed in the op's opening was "worst selling car ever". It's a fair misinterpretation to put this in.

[Rufys]

worst sellings means lowest sold in any interpretation of the post. Camira isn't one of them!

[Reaper]

worst sellings means lowest sold in any interpretation of the post. Camira isn't one of them!

I'd even argue very strongly that once you had your engine re-ringed the Camira was an excellent car compared to it's peers at the time. (Laser, Mazda 323, Carolla etc). To the above - Piazzas were an undeniable sales flop but still sold a few thousand. The Misfire 4 Commodores also had sluggish sales (and performance) but did sell 500 or so a month for the few years they were available.

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[ucwepn]

Sunbird, theres heaps of epica's in my area, northern suburbs of Melb. theres a very riced up one around here with Gizmo and Gremlins airbrushed on it.

[Bravotwozero]

I'd even argue very strongly that once you had your engine re-ringed the Camira was an excellent car compared to it's peers at the time. (Laser, Mazda 323, Carolla etc). To the above - Piazzas were an undeniable sales flop but still sold a few thousand. The Misfire 4 Commodores also had sluggish sales (and performance) but did sell 500 or so a month for the few years they were available. Reaper

JB Camira was crap. You don't have to agree with me as it is only my opinion so argue all you want. And I've misinterpreted the original post I think.

[Reaper]

JB Camira was crap. You don't have to agree with me as it is only my opinion so argue all you want. And I've misinterpreted the original post I think.

Ever actually have one?? The initial family II engines were fitted with rings that were way soft and made the engine pump smoke very early in their lifetime and thus many were rebuilt early in their lifetime. Compared to their peers the Camiras drove exceptionally well and were very well appointed. Rust became a problem later in life which didn't help their reputation either. Interestingly the direct descendent of the original Family II engine was still being built in Port Melbourne right up till about 3 years ago.

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[Full Spectrum]

Epica was great value. Fully spec out car with plenty of size and options that cars 10k more would be proud of. Maybe not the best put together car holden has ever re badge - but well up on the value for money chart.

Worst thing holden sold. the first Cruze from Suzuki. Wasn't the 4 cylinder Commodore exclusive to Tasmania ?.

[Bravotwozero]

Ever actually have one?? The initial family II engines were fitted with rings that were way soft and made the engine pump smoke very early in their lifetime and thus many were rebuilt early in their lifetime. Compared to their peers the Camiras drove exceptionally well and were very well appointed. Rust became a problem later in life which didn't help their reputation either. Interestingly the direct descendent of the original Family II engine was still being built in Port Melbourne right up till about 3 years ago.

Reaper

Like I said it is my opinion so get over it.

[Reaper]

Epica was great value. Fully spec out car with plenty of size and options that cars 10k more would be proud of. Maybe not the best put together car holden has ever re badge - but well up on the value for money chart.

Worst thing holden sold. the first Cruze from Suzuki. Wasn't the 4 cylinder Commodore exclusive to Tasmania ?.

Nah - sold in Victoria as well (at least).

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[Jonesy484]

yeah cruze 4X4 was definatly the worst

[Full Spectrum]

Nah - sold in Victoria as well (at least).

Reaper

My brother had one and made out it came from tassie, but thanks for clearing that up.

[ClairBear]

Had a limited edition Sunbird back in the late 80's I think. Was a POS and ended up being towed away for scrap.