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[Rufys]

Samsung wins Australian appeal case in Apple tablet war | Tablet PC & iPad News | News.com.au | News.com.au

This is great news! The fact that Apple seek to stifle technological advance by having products similar to their own is just plain wrong!

If they had Adobe Flash Support, I'd already own an iPad 2 ... But since I want a tablet for mobile internet browsing and email mostly, I simply won't let Apple limit my online experience.

Now I can go out and buy a more advanced tablet for less money!

[Troy711]

There isn't too much tech related stuff that I know, but I do know that Apple desperately needs Flash support. The amount of… erm, 'online adult videos' I can't watch at work is rather annoying.

[Astranomical]

Meh, Flash is too much of a resource hog (particularly of concern on mobile devices which run off a battery and don't have the horsepower behind them of a standard PC or even a netbook), and Adobe's killing off Mobile Flash anyway, depending on how things go desktop Flash mightn't be too far behind it. Good riddance.

[torana355]

Samsung wins Australian appeal case in Apple tablet war | Tablet PC & iPad News | News.com.au | News.com.au

This is great news! The fact that Apple seek to stifle technological advance by having products similar to their own is just plain wrong!

If they had Adobe Flash Support, I'd already own an iPad 2 ... But since I want a tablet for mobile internet browsing and email mostly, I simply won't let Apple limit my online experience.

Now I can go out and buy a more advanced tablet for less money!

Adobe is cutting support for flash.

Adobe Cutting Flash Support For All Mobile Devices

[gopher]

if apple have patents on them then why should samsung be allowed to copy them?

[ephect]

because thats how software progresses, company A makes a product, company B improves on that product.. then it starts all over again.

apple says no!

[detox_nath83]

Steve aint there to say "NO"





...too early???

[Astranomical]

Because thats how patents work - the idea of a patent is that a company, any company, or even an individual can take out a patent in order to protect their idea or invention from having someone else use it. Its not about Apple trying to control your experience or whatever, its about them having come up with an idea first, patenting it, and therefore having a legal right to protection for those patents.

[Big_Simmo]

Apple are just a bunch of douchebags
All they ever do is try and muscle away any compeditor that might have something which will show how pathetic the Apple product really is.

Apple, average product, amazing marketing team

[Reaper]

Meh, Flash is too much of a resource hog (particularly of concern on mobile devices which run off a battery and don't have the horsepower behind them of a standard PC or even a netbook), and Adobe's killing off Mobile Flash anyway, depending on how things go desktop Flash mightn't be too far behind it. Good riddance.

Battery life on my iPad is awesome. I can't see Flash support making that bigger difference. Lack of Flash is a problem though.

Reaper

[Rufys]

Fact: There is (and will be for a VERY VERY VERY long time) a whole lot of flash content on the internet. Just because the company that developed it are EOL'ing the mobile version (and potentially somewhere down the road, the desktop version also) does NOT mean the content won't still exist and work and enhance the browsing experience for YEARS to come.

It's like Windows XP. Microsoft stopped supporting and developing it a LONG time ago but it's still very widely used.

One thing the iPad wins on is battery life - I'll give it that. But as far as usability and functionality goes, the iPad is just too limiting.

[Astranomical]

Flash still very widely used, but at the end of the day, technology changes, and people have to keep up. Its that sort of thinking that has kept IE 6 (and Windows XP) alive for wayyy longer than it should have been.

[Rufys]

Flash still very widely used, but at the end of the day, technology changes, and people have to keep up. Its that sort of thinking that has kept IE 6 (and Windows XP) alive for wayyy longer than it should have been.

It's that sort of thinking that is reality. Unfortunately. And in a couple to a few years time when there's less flash content, there will also be WAY better tablet options to upgrade to. When it comes to technology, if you wait to buy something so you'll be more than 6 months to a year "future proof", you'll be waiting forever!

Until then, I don't want to be dictated to by Apple as to what my internet experience should be!

[minux]

I use my ipad a fair bit, it is used as a business tool and not a leisure item. Can someone tell me a website or anything that would be used that requires flash? I am yet to come across anything in the past 12 months that I had to go "damn i am on an apple product and cannot use flash".

[Banicks]

Minux - a lot of webcam sites use Flash....so I'm told.

HTML5 will eventually replace flash. Apple have just abandoned their support of Flash a bit ahead of what the rest of the market has. My issue was that our country was the only one in the world that prevented Samsung from selling, our legal system is very silly to let one woman judge make the decision for an entire country. Then again, the PM does it as well.

At the end of the day, I'm not a consumer of tablets. I find no use for them that my phone or computer can't do already, most tablet users I speak to seem to go out of their way to find uses for them. Meh, each to their own.

[minux]

Minux - a lot of webcam sites use Flash....so I'm told.

Might explain why I do not need it.

At the end of the day, I'm not a consumer of tablets. I find no use for them that my phone or computer can't do already, most tablet users I speak to seem to go out of their way to find uses for them. Meh, each to their own.

Just so you can see some uses, I use the ipad as a digital portfolio, it has pre-wedding/wedding examples for clients, album designs etc and also how I take notes while speaking to clients to have for their wedding day, works a treat. I can't see any purpose in them for leisure though, probably why it never gets used except for updating and when with clients.

[Banicks]

Ah yea, now that is a great use for it. Also saw that some fancy restaurants use it as a menu, great idea!

But definitely puzzled as to why people buy them for personal use/leisure. Just seems like a 'status' thing.

[Rufys]

Status? Pfffft! It has nothing to do with status.

Just a few Personal/Leisure uses that come to mind:

Laptop replacement for casual browsing**/online chatting/email/im while on the couch or laying in bed without the hassle of having the heat and weight of a laptop/netbook. To people who find browsing on a mobile phone good enough - great, that's your preference. I personally enjoy a bigger screen.

Able to easily read ALL newspapers on the train without having paper everywhere or getting my hands covered in ink.

Movies/TV Shows and pretty much all other media on a bigger screen than a mobile phone.

e-Reader - self explanatory

Sharing photos... Similar to what minux would be doing for potential customers with his portfolios etc, but for sharing friends/family instead of photo albums without having to croud around a TV! Yes I know photos can be streamed/viewed on TVs but having something to hold is also nice.

** this would be the number one reason I would get a tablet. It makes it an ENTIRELY luxury item and therefore something I have to effectively justify "wasting" some cash to buy.

[Rufys]

Hmmmm... And then I discovered the brand new ASUS Transformer Prime!

Ice Cream Sandwitch - YUM!!!

[Essassin]

Not really a fan of tablets, but I can see how they would be useful for presentations and portfolios.
If I was going to buy one, it wouldn't be an iPad. Android shits on iOS any day of the week - I have Gingerbread on my Galaxy SII and love it!

[HoZy]

People get with the times!

90% Of websites that required flash are now HTML5...

[acarmody]

I'm intrigued as to how this thread went from Samsung winning in court over Apple, to whether flash support is needed or not.

Me personally I hate apple products, and if I ever see someone installing iTunes on my computer I will knock them out.

Apple patent EVERYTHING, I mean seriously everything. They have patents on the power button, and also a patent for when you touch something on a touch-screen device, it does something, amazing that. Also a patent on processor-scaling, something that PCs and laptops have been doing since......well forever.

[minux]

I'm intrigued as to how this thread went from Samsung winning in court over Apple, to whether flash support is needed or not.

Me personally I hate apple products, and if I ever see someone installing iTunes on my computer I will knock them out.

Apple patent EVERYTHING, I mean seriously everything. They have patents on the power button, and also a patent for when you touch something on a touch-screen device, it does something, amazing that. Also a patent on processor-scaling, something that PCs and laptops have been doing since......well forever.

I wonder if they do it so something cant be stolen? Once bitten twice shy perhaps?

[acarmody]

I wonder if they do it so something cant be stolen? Once bitten twice shy perhaps?

Apple just do it so that they can claim other companies are stealing thier 'patented' technology. It doesn't matter that they will (likely) eventually loose, but while the case is unresolved the company that Apple are suing cannot release thier devices, hence Apple products can enter the market with less competitors.

Only the big companies like Samsung, HTC, Nokia, RIM, can even hope to afford to defend themselves in court.