price of a road worthy now days?

[Drawnnite]

tip: if your buying a car and the other guy wont organise a roady (even if you pay the extra for it).
think to yourself. if they cannot get it roadied what could possibly be wrong with it?

[Darcon666]

Wow... you mexicans pay too much for your RWC(Pink slip as they call it in NSW)... I just paid $34.50 and it was $32 last year.

Boy I was so fricken upset that I had to pay $2.50 more this year that I had a big argument with my mechanic over this, it got real ugly... until he cracked open two crownies, then all was forgiven.

[SilverVH]

Airbags, crumple zones, ABS, bigger brakes etc. etc. etc. I'm sure you get my drift when I say a car might be safer with those inclusions compared to one that doesn't feature one or all of those. That's all I'm making a judgement on. All because a car is un-roadworthy doesn't mean its unsafe, it just means it no longer complies to ADR's?

As mentioned previously my car's ground clearance is 90mm and the MAF has been disabled. The latter would require a retune to enable the MAF sensor. Trivial at best, but no long complying to the relevant ADR for that vehicle, hence it being un-roadworthy (purely by choice on my part.)

superchargedv6: I'm sure I could find something unroadworthy with your vehicle along with any trained person. Just by looking at your signature pic it appears your exhaust tip seems to extend beyond the point of the body line of the rear bumper by a good 1". Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but that 'protrusion' is in breach of ADR and doesn't comply with roadworthiness standards.

"The outlet must be located so as to avoid direct entry of gases into the passenger compartment and must not extend beyond the plan of the vehicle."

and under VSI 8

6.2 "...no exhaust system whether it be functional or ornamental is to be mounted in such a manner as to create a hazardous situation particularly from hot surfaces or projections."

and

9.3 "...any object or fitting, protruding from any part of the vehicle in a manner likely to create the risk of bodily injury to any person." "...any component, feature object or fitting on the vehicle whose design, construction and/or condition and the manner in which it is affixed, is likely to create the risk of bodily injury to any person."

[hi_ryder]

i took my other vp to a guy that one of the workers at my shop recommended.

i thought the roady was $120 still too. the dude picked on my ball joints so i supplied new ones and paid labour ($200) which i thought was plenty generous. when i went to pick up the car the dude was changing my hand break shoes on the back wheels cause they were knackered.

i didnt give him permission to do this to the car. when he hit me with the bill ($550) for roady, ball joints, and hand break shoes (which btw are no more than $40 new) i nearly hit the floor. for the extra money i could have also just gone with dodgy but i wanted the car to be right. its why i hate going to mechanics....

[ari666]

"The outlet must be located so as to avoid direct entry of gases into the passenger compartment and must not extend beyond the plan of the vehicle."

and under VSI 8

6.2 "...no exhaust system whether it be functional or ornamental is to be mounted in such a manner as to create a hazardous situation particularly from hot surfaces or projections."

and

9.3 "...any object or fitting, protruding from any part of the vehicle in a manner likely to create the risk of bodily injury to any person." "...any component, feature object or fitting on the vehicle whose design, construction and/or condition and the manner in which it is affixed, is likely to create the risk of bodily injury to any person."

thats weird. because exhaust outlets are covered by ADR 42/00 (01, 02, 03, 04) General Safety, which didnt come into play until 1988, being a UC means its a 78-80...

other than that i am struggling to find an ADR which makes it un RWC to have an exhaust outlet more than 1" from the rear of the car. IN FACT, ADR 42/00 states:


so um, yeah

[SilverVH]

thats weird. because exhaust outlets are covered by ADR 42/00 (01, 02, 03, 04) General Safety, which didnt come into play until 1988, being a UC means its a 78-80...

other than that i am struggling to find an ADR which makes it un RWC to have an exhaust outlet more than 1" from the rear of the car. IN FACT, ADR 42/00 states:


so um, yeah

1. superchargedv6 owns a VS not a UC.
2. ADR 42/00 (or specifically 42/02 for a VS) where you have clearly boxed the relevant passage must have you slightly confused with your interpretation. Specifically the last part which says, "...but not beyond the perimeter of the vehicle when viewed in plan."

Now according to the Vehicle Safety Standards Branch of the Department of Infrastructure & Transport, the floor pan that specifically relates to ADR 42/02 subsection 42.8.1.1. is, "the floor area inside the passenger compartment from the firewall rearward ending at the rear wheel base." Beyond this is called the "boot floor pan". 40mm beyond the boot floor pan complies with ADR 42/02 subsection 42.8.1.1. This is one reason as to why having the exhaust exit before the differential on a 4 door MA classed vehicle is a big no-no.

The perimiter of the vehicle is the furthermost part of any hanging panel affixed to the car body that complies with ADR 43/00 (ADR 43/03 specifically for a VS.)

Not sure if this was an attempt at trolling or not, but if not then I hope this information has been of some use.

[ari666]

but if not then I hope this information has been of some use.

yeah sort of. i am having trouble understanding what ADR 43 has to do with the price of fish... i have read through both 00 and 03 and there is no mention of "hanging panels". the "rearmost joint of the floor pan" is the boot.

seems you may have breezed over 42.8.2.1 though "the exhaust outlet must be as near as practable to the rear of the vehicle"

meh, pointless internet argument is pointless.

[scvs6]

Airbags, crumple zones, ABS, bigger brakes etc. etc. etc. I'm sure you get my drift when I say a car might be safer with those inclusions compared to one that doesn't feature one or all of those. That's all I'm making a judgement on. All because a car is un-roadworthy doesn't mean its unsafe, it just means it no longer complies to ADR's?

As mentioned previously my car's ground clearance is 90mm and the MAF has been disabled. The latter would require a retune to enable the MAF sensor. Trivial at best, but no long complying to the relevant ADR for that vehicle, hence it being un-roadworthy (purely by choice on my part.)

superchargedv6: I'm sure I could find something unroadworthy with your vehicle along with any trained person. Just by looking at your signature pic it appears your exhaust tip seems to extend beyond the point of the body line of the rear bumper by a good 1". Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but that 'protrusion' is in breach of ADR and doesn't comply with roadworthiness standards."The outlet must be located so as to avoid direct entry of gases into the passenger compartment and must not extend beyond the plan of the vehicle."

and under VSI 8

6.2 "...no exhaust system whether it be functional or ornamental is to be mounted in such a manner as to create a hazardous situation particularly from hot surfaces or projections."

and

9.3 "...any object or fitting, protruding from any part of the vehicle in a manner likely to create the risk of bodily injury to any person." "...any component, feature object or fitting on the vehicle whose design, construction and/or condition and the manner in which it is affixed, is likely to create the risk of bodily injury to any person."

I actually am trained to do roadworthy inspections, its one of the main things I do where I work.

A good 1 inch? How can you even tell from that photo? The car is on an angle.... But just to shut you up I went out of my way to take photos to prove that it doesn't stick out "a good 1 inch" because its less then half an inch.





So, sorry mate but you fail again.

[stockyvrcalais]

220 wtf i paid 80 not long ago

same here i paid 88....what a f*cken rip off are digital pics that expensive are they

[one_and_only2004]

same here i paid 88....what a f*cken rip off are digital pics that expensive are they

They must have to buy a new camera every time or something...

[stockyvrcalais]

I actually am trained to do roadworthy inspections, its one of the main things I do where I work.

A good 1 inch? How can you even tell from that photo? The car is on an angle.... But just to shut you up I went out of my way to take photos to prove that it doesn't stick out "a good 1 inch" because its less then half an inch.





So, sorry mate but you fail again.

is it just me or does that exhaust look like its just been cut lol

[scvs6]

is it just me or does that exhaust look like its just been cut lol

I know that it looks like its been cut but why would I go to the trouble of removing the exhaust system to cut the tip just because someone on here that is not a trained roadworthy inspector says that it is too long. And also its a genuine VT SS tip, why would I cut it and make the car look like s***. I will take any photos of it that you want to prove that its not to long and that it hasn't been cut.

[stockyvrcalais]

I know that it looks like its been cut but why would I go to the trouble of removing the exhaust system to cut the tip just because someone on here that is not a trained roadworthy inspector says that it is too long. And also its a genuine VT SS tip, why would I cut it and make the car look like s***. I will take any photos of it that you want to prove that its not to long and that it hasn't been cut.

relax mate i wasnt having a go at ya (granted it does seem like i was lol)

[scvs6]

relax mate i wasnt having a go at ya (granted it does seem like i was lol)

Ok but still, if it was sticking out too far, I wouldnt cut the front of the exhaust tip that everyone can see, it would be the back where the tip is connected to the exhaust. And I wouldn't do it myself anyway, I would take it to the exhaust place that fitted it and tell them to fix it.

Here is another pic anyway if there is someone else that doesn't believe me.

[SilverVH]

I actually am trained to do roadworthy inspections, its one of the main things I do where I work.

A good 1 inch? How can you even tell from that photo? The car is on an angle.... But just to shut you up I went out of my way to take photos to prove that it doesn't stick out "a good 1 inch" because its less then half an inch.





So, sorry mate but you fail again.

Umm dude...you just admitted that your exhaust sticks out 0.5" beyond the bodyline of the vehicle and then you even posted a picture to prove MY point LOL.

It could stick out 0.1" and it would be deemed un-roadworthy to the letter of the law.

The only thing I got wrong was saying it stuck 1" out when it only sticks 0.5" out haha.

You just failed yourself buddy boy!

[Blown V6 Hatch]

same here i paid 88....what a f*cken rip off are digital pics that expensive are they

No they aren't, but it is a lot more stuffing around to do all the things Vic Roads want with the new laws/rules. It does take a fair bit longer to do an inspection now than it used to (a proper one, not a dodgy (that's not a stab at you Silver VH))....Hence the price rise.

[scvs6]

Umm dude...you just admitted that your exhaust sticks out 0.5" beyond the bodyline of the vehicle and then you even posted a picture to prove MY point LOL.

It could stick out 0.1" and it would be deemed un-roadworthy to the letter of the law.

The only thing I got wrong was saying it stuck 1" out when it only sticks 0.5" out haha.

You just failed yourself buddy boy!

1. If you think about it, the measuring tape is at the bottom of the rear bumper bar, the top of the bumper bar sticks out a fraction more then the bottom so its actually less then 0.5"

2. You can clearly see that in the first pic that its not sticking out.

3. What the hell is your problem with me? I was just answering the question that the OP asked then you seem to want to argue with me and point out things that are wrong with my car.

4. I honestly don't care if I proved your point, I was just proving that it was less then an inch.

5. If you did find something unroadworthy on my car, well done, my car is still safe and not a danger on the roads.

[SilverVH]

1. If you think about it, the measuring tape is at the bottom of the rear bumper bar, the top of the bumper bar sticks out a fraction more then the bottom so its actually less then 0.5"

2. You can clearly see that in the first pic that its not sticking out.

3. What the hell is your problem with me? I was just answering the question that the OP asked then you seem to want to argue with me and point out things that are wrong with my car.

4. I honestly don't care if I proved your point, I was just proving that it was less then an inch.

5. If you did find something unroadworthy on my car, well done, my car is still safe and not a danger on the roads.

lol dude, you posted to me saying good luck trying to find anything un-roadworthy with your car in post #24. There's no need to have a hissy fit and get all sensitive about it.

[scvs6]

lol dude, you posted to me saying good luck trying to find anything un-roadworthy with your car in post #24. There's no need to have a hissy fit and get all sensitive about it.

Yeah but then everyone started getting all technical about it. I have never been told that my exhaust is sticking out too far. You can tell that I look after my car and I wouldn't let anything about it be unsafe on the roads.

[SilverVH]

Yeah but then everyone started getting all technical about it. I have never been told that my exhaust is sticking out too far. You can tell that I look after my car and I wouldn't let anything about it be unsafe on the roads.

Yeah true, it did go a bit over the top haha.

I can tell you look after your car, which is a welcome change from most the VS's you see getting about on the roads. Well done with that.

[RK5TAR]

You can have the safest car in the world by any standards. But put an idiot behind the wheel and it means nothing.

[scvs6]

Yeah true, it did go a bit over the top haha.

I can tell you look after your car, which is a welcome change from most the VS's you see getting about on the roads. Well done with that.

Yeah thanks mate Oh well, i'm glad thats over and we can move on haha sorry about that.