A Common Spark

[W84N01]

that'd be because you have never driven one.

34 GTR gear changes are just majestic, evo 8's off the line tear half your face off, RX7's keep pulling like a freight train.

'ricers' are some of the best cars on the market. BUT (which i think is the point of this thread), some peole just are not into them, which is fine. the point is we shouldnt be sitting in our comfy chairs, passing judgement on others[cars] just because they dont follow the generic way of thinking.

the amazing thing about autos is there are so many ways of achieveing the same goal. and each varying shape of car, or suspension design or air induction system should be celebrated, rather than scorned.

we are all taking steps forward together. arguing just keeps us in the dark ages.

Actually i have, and i still didn't like them lol

I have driven a different range of vehicles from Ricers, to both Holdens and Fords, trucks, Porsches, Ferraris, Alfa Romeo, 4WDrives, shitboxes, Chevy Silverado.

And i really didn't like the Ricers. Just way too uncomfortable, small and personally, they just did nothing for me at all.

[blueVP]

I'm a holden man through and through,
But i can appreciate a nice car no matter if its old school muscle or a ricer.

The amount of effort some guys put into the ricers is amazing, I personally wouldn't own one but you gotta give credit where credits due

[kingswood country]

Haha good reference for comparing apples

[scouser king]

I just wanted the biggest v8 at the time,that i could aford and the VE SS was the right priced car for me.I did test drive a few XR8's but did'nt like them.

[PaRaDoX]

but bathurst wouldnt be as fun when your throwing cans with some sort of flammable gas into the next campsite because they dont like holden =P



but seriously
there are many good cars out there, you dont have to like them to admire what they actually can offer
but i just have a preference for unsofisticated v8s.
like camaros and challengers =P

i admire how ford has done well with the 6.
but doesnt mean i want to be seen in one =P

Bathurst would be much better if it wasn't restricted to holden and ford. But after the turbo nissan's kept winning it wasn't "fair" so they banned them. Instead of challenging holden and ford to come up with a better car.

I reckon a good car is a good car.

[DAKSTER]

I dont have any preconceptions. I own a couple Commodores, a couple Kias, a VW beetle and a Chrysler Centura. My previous daily was an EL Fairmont.

I bought the Fairmont at the time because ELs are about the best value for money on the market.. the most bang for your buck in terms of comfort/features/power that you can buy at the price. For whatever reason, they just dont have a great resale value and can be picked up in pretty good nick cheap as chips.

When I wrote it off against a large furry animal with a 40KG tail, I chose a Commodore to replace it with. Another Ford would have been better value for money, but I wanted a Commodore for a change, so I was prepared to pay the price.

When buying the second Kia a couple months ago, I was looking at new cars valued at around the 20K mark. Although there are multiple candidates in this price range, I chose the Kia because it offered me more for my money.

Therefore, although several similar cars cost the same amount, one offered better value for money than the others. Of course cost is a factor. If the other cars were 2 grand cheaper, that would have made a difference.

The same thing applies for more expensive cars too. The price is part of the overall package, it has to make a difference. What you get for your money versus how much you pay = value for money. Even when they are the same price.

Personally, I'd be interested in looking at Great Walls and stuff like that too, if thats the type of car I was looking at. Car manufacturing has reached a level where no company makes truly bad cars, and an X240 at half the price of a Rav4 has a hell of a lot of good reasons to consider it.

[Not_An_Abba_Fan]

Bathurst would be much better if it wasn't restricted to holden and ford. But after the turbo nissan's kept winning it wasn't "fair" so they banned them. Instead of challenging holden and ford to come up with a better car.

I reckon a good car is a good car.

No, they actually just changed the classification for each type of car. The V8 Supercars are just Holden and Ford but they have different cars in different classes as seen on the CAMS website http://www.cams.com.au/en/Sport/Disciplines/Race.aspx

But I agree, the old Group series were much more enjoyable to watch.