[VIC] Driving high powered vehicles on P's for work.

[Trayner]

when I used to be a mechanic at bmw , i used to have to drive v8's ,turbo's etc . And the big high up boss said i was covered to drive under there insurance the company had ?. No idea if its the truth or not as that guy was a pretty shady character

[VIC_VE]

so if your a p plater, you can pretty much buy a high performance vechical with your own abn number then say its for work?

I'm saying that if you operate your own business and decide to buy a V8 and use that car for your business purposes, yes you could buy a high performance vehicle and drive it around doing your own business things and if pulled over present your case to the police officer and be fine with it. It's up to the driver to provide enough evidence to the police officer at the time, if the office isn't satisfied he can still book you and you then would need to take it to be heard at a magistrate court and present your case (this is very unlikely but they can do it this way and it will happen if they think your doing something dodgy around the system).

Pretty much its like this, if your run your own business and your young on your P plates you have the ability to carry on a responsibility to drive whatever car your business can afford to own. In the eyes of the Drivers Regulation 2009 it states that you do not need an exemption to drive a high powered vehicle if used for work purposes this includes your own work (self employed) or work asked to be done by your employer. I carry around my business card, a copy of my company registration and abn registration and by presenting this to the officer I have been pulled over by have never had any problems in fact there generally happy just seeing my business card. Let me assure you though if your caught doing an act of excessive speeding, reckless driving, endangering other drivers on the road and your pulled over you will need everything you can to prove you are driving a high powered vehicle under the right reasons and if your not, don't expect to get away with it!

Disclaimer: This is only speculation and I do not advise or take responsibility for any action your take based on the information I provide here. If in doubt please contact a legal representative before taking action as I do not hold responsibility for the result of anything you may do based on my speculation and/or theory'd advise.

[VIC_VE]

when I used to be a mechanic at bmw , i used to have to drive v8's ,turbo's etc . And the big high up boss said i was covered to drive under there insurance the company had ?. No idea if its the truth or not as that guy was a pretty shady character

I would believe this as a lot of insurance brokers today that sort out the right insurance for the business at hand insure all employed workers, they don't generally look at each specific employeee for insurance.

Disclaimer: This is only speculation and I do not advise or take responsibility for any action your take based on the information I provide here. If in doubt please contact a legal representative before taking action as I do not hold responsibility for the result of anything you may do based on my speculation and/or theory'd advise.

[Drawnnite]

regarding the ABN with P Plates to drive a v8

unless you can prove what you are doing is for work. then pretty much you are screwed.
so no driving it on weekends etc (unless you want to risk it)

also would it not look sus that you have a business with no income. yet a car is registered in that business isnt cheap? =P

[letthiswork1]

This is an interesting topic.

Does this mean i could get my current car (Insured under my dad) insured under his company instead?
I work for him and i sometimes have to drive around for work. is there any reason i can't have the car registered to the company and if i get pulled over and they ask me about my exhaust, extractos, intake etc. I can just say it's a company car and i am using it for work?
Obviously i could align a better story but ritualisticly i do use it for work occasionally and its only a few minor modifications i never knew were illegal >.<

I am also from NSW

[Macca86]

Very interesting to read. In regards to it being legal to take customers V8/turbo cars for test drives etc when you're a mechanic etc as its for obvious work reasons, is it the the same for in NSW does anyone know?

[VIC_VE]

regarding the ABN with P Plates to drive a v8

unless you can prove what you are doing is for work. then pretty much you are screwed.
so no driving it on weekends etc (unless you want to risk it)

also would it not look sus that you have a business with no income. yet a car is registered in that business isnt cheap? =P

No income would highlight an issue yes, but if your earned at least $1 that would be seen as operating a business. All you would need to do is register an ABN and sell a few things on eBay and provide a invoice for it to whoever purchases the items. You could be using the high powered card to go around and purchase/picking up the items your selling on eBay. This would be enough to consider yourself operating your own business. The law cannot judge how much your profit/cash flow in your business against the value of the car it just doesn't work that way.

Also, as for the weekend driving thing, no issue there. I operate my business on a day to day basis depending if i need to go out that day or not. I claim GST off fuel I use in my work car on the weekend as I use it to get to and from cetain places I would consider work if I can claim the GST why cant I be using my work car? After all its my own business I work when I want.. right?

Disclaimer: This is only speculation and I do not advise or take responsibility for any action your take based on the information I provide here. If in doubt please contact a legal representative before taking action as I do not hold responsibility for the result of anything you may do based on my speculation and/or theory'd advise.

[VIC_VE]

This is an interesting topic.

Does this mean i could get my current car (Insured under my dad) insured under his company instead?
I work for him and i sometimes have to drive around for work. is there any reason i can't have the car registered to the company and if i get pulled over and they ask me about my exhaust, extractos, intake etc. I can just say it's a company car and i am using it for work?
Obviously i could align a better story but ritualisticly i do use it for work occasionally and its only a few minor modifications i never knew were illegal >.<

I am also from NSW

Can't help too much with legality in NSW as I don't know the drivers regulation there, don't have the book for that state! In theory if it has a statement similar to what Victorian drivers regulation has then yes you could BUT I wouldn't bother setting up insurance under your dads company as that probably will cost more than your personal insurance over your car. If your in an accident and insured under the company insurance and found that in the accident your trip was not for work purposes than you may be limited to the claim and that can be nasty especially if other cars where involved.

With all these sort of things I would always keep personal insurance, only use the work purpose reason if your pulled over by an office on the road. If your involved in an accident be honest, cut your losses admit you where driving for personal use cop the 3 points and $300 fine and make a fully safe covered claim via personal insurance company dont risk insurance claims over 3 points & 300$ just wont be worth it.

Disclaimer: This is only speculation and I do not advise or take responsibility for any action your take based on the information I provide here. If in doubt please contact a legal representative before taking action as I do not hold responsibility for the result of anything you may do based on my speculation and/or theory'd advise.

[Trayner]

I'm saying that if you operate your own business and decide to buy a V8 and use that car for your business purposes, yes you could buy a high performance vehicle and drive it around doing your own business things and if pulled over present your case to the police officer and be fine with it.

Thats what a guy I know does , he set up his own "couriering" business , ABN and all . and drives a l67 sedan around . And he stuck a sticker on the side saying 24/7 couriering . So he Just drives it around even on weekends saying that his delivering things . Has worked for him so far ....

[letthiswork1]

I'm saying that if you operate your own business and decide to buy a V8 and use that car for your business purposes, yes you could buy a high performance vehicle and drive it around doing your own business things and if pulled over present your case to the police officer and be fine with it.

Thats what a guy I know does , he set up his own "couriering" business , ABN and all . and drives a l67 sedan around . And he stuck a sticker on the side saying 24/7 couriering . So he Just drives it around even on weekends saying that his delivering things . Has worked for him so far ....

So he has Been pulled over multiple times?

[Trayner]

So he has Been pulled over multiple times?

yup , shows his exemption . He keeps like a box of glue or something in his boot , shows his delivering it and off he goes