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Double standards at the cricket.
Well the title says most of it, but what do you guys think of the fact that foreigners are exempt to rules that we have to abide by whilst at the cricket?
For example, today at the cricket the Indian bay were starting chants such as; "You are a wanker", hitting beach balls and most importantly had a big arse drum there? I've seen somebody kicked out and almost arrested for having a harmonica!
I'm not by any means a racist, but I feel that Cricket Australia have ruined the atmosphere of a test match, and by allowing the Indian supportors to run amok (for lack of a better term) is just rubbing it in our faces.
Discuss?
if they did anything it would get into the whole racist thing again, you know that.
P Plate extraordinaire.
Yeah you're right, but if they're going to change the rules dependant on the colour of your skin... rules should be the same for everybody. bloody political correctness
The Cult Of Personality
It's more to do with the racism card that a lot of the sub-continent teams play. It's an easy out for them and something that runs in the community a lot. Like myself, I'm born and raised Australian, consider myself Australian and am dead-proud to be able to call myself Australian. But my parents and extended family are from Sri Lanka, and its something that runs in the community, and why I distance myself from anything to do with the culture or community.
The biggest problem is that precedents have been set, and if Cricket Australia dare do anything to upset the BCCI then not only will there be a massive political issue, but cricket is now unfortunately all political and financially-powered, and the BCCI run International Cricket. The financial losses that any incident can bring about is too great to risk in their eyes.
I mean, take for instance when that Indian bloke got stabbed on his way to work. They cried foul, the BCCI threatened to withdraw from Australian tours unless something was done, and blackmailed the Australian government into action (not saying the guy should have got off on it.) Now take for instance the situation a few years back where an Indian student stabbed and killed an Australian in Melbourne, and then the Indian powers in Australia flew him back to India to avoid being held accountable. The Australian government (to my knowledge) did nothing or made a piss-poor attempt at reconciling the issue.
India is a world powerhouse now and the PR side of things is more important to the fascist politicians than equality, and it runs so deep and in so many different streams. I mean look, we try to embrace it as much as possible, but the clear advantage and 'position of power' so to speak that some (not all) of the Indians and the like take really pisses me off.
My opinion is to just avoid it and try and enjoy the cricket for what it is. Like we went Boxing Day, sat up in the MCC and just ignored whatever they were doing. I know some of the people involved in the little Indian contingent and 70% of them aren't there for the cricket. I normally never bother going to the cricket when Sri Lanka or India are playing for the simple fact the lack of accountability annoys me and gets me angry. But ultimately when someone can threaten to withhold billions and billions from you, you're not going to side with the little man.
P Plate extraordinaire.
Great reply, answered a whole lot of future questions. I can completely see where you're coming from, why on earth would CA listen to someone like me who just wants to see equality at the cricket...
Yeah, imagine the outrage in India if one of their supporters was evicted for bad behaviour. At the end of the day, I just wish that CA would lighten up it's stance on the chanting and the beach balls. We have been turned into a fun sucked nanny state. I'm still a kid (I guess), and I can't even begin to imagine what it's going to be like for my children or grandchildren.
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Everyone gets a bit racist in a competition. People all need to learn where to draw the line. Unfortunately too many people think they're shit don't stink.
The Cult Of Personality
I suppose if we dig deeper from a cricket point of view, I mean how many concessions has the Western powers (England, Australia, South Africa etc.) made to allow sub-continent teams to get a fair go?
How many rules have been changed to cater for them.....let's all not forget Muralitharan (sic), by the laws of the game, bowled illegally, yet they changed the rules to allow a greater bend and allow him to play.
The IPL window? The BCCI forced the ICC's hand on that.
The DRS. Enough said. Cost India the match which is sweet justice.
And many more. And what pisses me off is they are the first to cry foul and try and blame others when they #### up. Look at the Pakistani spot-fixing issue. Their president, before any evidence was provided, came out and said England started it and they are to blame. Then a couple Sri Lankan's came out and said the Australians have been match-fixing since the early 90's.
All unproven.
Like Hama said, its ok to be aggressive and what not in competition, I know I am when I play, but you need to know where the line is and accept the consequences of your actions, which a lot of the sub-continents people fail to realise.
Nil Bastardo Carborundum
I think it's a damned shame that we have to tolerate the sub-continent teams in cricket at all. Piss India, Pakistan and Sri Lanka off and you would have a better game, but the money that India brings in means that will never happen. You'd also only have half the number of competitive teams left to play the game around the world.
How ironic that the home of cricket (England) no longer controls the game for the sportsmanship that it encompasses, and that India, the home of vivid contrasts in social demographics and racial disparity, now controls it simply on the basis that it has such an enormous population who are cricket fanatics and this results in huge incomes for the BCCI. Money speaks and never more so than in international sport, but I wonder what the future holds for international cricket if it is to be run by what India wants.
Obviously Unsensible
its the cricket. we won didnt we? =P
i can understand how they didnt have the DRS.
fair enough if it means both teams have to agree. but i would rather it be an agreement not just 1 side says no so its a no.
back to the political side.
i dont see the harm in chants, beachballs, MEXICAN WAVES, instrument, and all that kind of behaviour.
however if one side can do it. why cant the other side?
thats where it is politically wrong.
if we can get chucked out for something. then they should to.
if they do not get chucked out for it. then we should be able to do those things.
i mean honestly. what i just named do they harm anyone? (other then throwing things during the wexican wave)
prime example:
look at the T20 and one day competitions.
how much fun the crowd actually has.
and they wonder why people dont go to tests anymore.....
how about we make the pedals out of sticky rubber and the shoes with steel spikes. at least my shins would like thatOriginally Posted by Jonesy484
Same rules for everyone I reckon, fark em off
Right Foot Action
In relation to double standards (of the actual game) I'm quite confused hussey getting caught behind for a duck when clearly hotspot and snicko came up with nothing! And when 2 Indian batsman (can't remember who) were caught/bowled the umpires went straight for the replay, and both were not out... WTF
regardless if we won the ICC need to man up and use the DRS in all games or none at all
Customize your life.
#### them, I'm Victorian and we sing you're a wanker if you fail to consume 2 drinks under 10 minutes.
LMFAO listen to you people. Harden the #### up. Everyone cheers on their team in different ways. As long as nobody gets hurt, let them do their thing.
P Plate extraordinaire.
yeah look, did you read the thread? It's saying that Indians and the like are allowed to do stuff at the cricket that we're not allowed to do... Just a short overview for you.
And not everyone cheers on their team 'in different ways', it seems we're not allowed to cheer at all anymore.
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I haven't read the entire thread but was unlucky enough to work as security at the Ashes in Brisbane a couple years ago. This was at the time all the changes came in RE - glass bottles, decent bag searches and a crackdown on idiots in the crowd etc.
All I can say is that a lot is going on behind the scenes that you do not see. At the time I did this work, no one condoned "wanker" chants and the like but what can you do when you have thousands of people doing it? Security will always attempt to remove any instigator of these chants or any individual idiots at the time but little can be done when it has started. They also installed a whopping cctv system at the Gabba to try and isolate and remove these idiots.
Beach balls were always a pain in the ass and always get popped when it enters the field - fair enough. You can't stop them bringing them in as the damn promo girls give them away at the front door.
Cricket Australia didn't ruin the atmosphere of Australian Cricket - The idiots in the crowd did. If they didn't have countless punch ups and drunks falling down stairs I am sure the rules would be a bit more lenient! These idiots are ruining majority of events and forcing strict rules
Not sure what the go is with the big arsed drum though, was it just some bloke in the crowd? If it was just some bloke and it worried you as much as it obviously has, you should of complained about it and seen what they said. If enough people whinge and the person was doing something prohibited, Security generally do something.
In saying all that, I haven't worked at the cricket in a couple of years and things may have changed!
Last edited by Rusty; 31-12-2011 at 02:24 PM.
I will give you a hint dont buy tickets near the swami army get tickets in a different bay. Thats what i did
Go to the family section. They have one section just for the swami army.
I like to watch Ponting and Tenduker peacefully so me and my girlfriend are in the family section.
Beach balls getting hit into the crowd has been around for years it does not matter if india is playing
People chanting You are a wanker has been around for years today people were chanting members are wankers because
they dint follow through with the Mexican wave. Again dont see how this is Indian supporters fault
And i dont see how drums harm anyone either it adds to the atmosphere. I am sure Australians SUPPORTERS can bring
drums. Not bongs DRUMS Lol.
Well said PRAVX. Totally agree.
You guys really want to complain about something, go to a doggies game. Would you rather have to listen to the swami army and put up with beach balls (beach balls are fun, you guys are crazy lol) or a doggies (or any other team) game where fights break out in the crowd all the time, people dont know how to control their alco and get drunk all the time (rowdy drunk), idiots making stupid remarks and whistling a your girlfriend and then your girlfriend gets upset.
I went to the 2004 india test the day Ponting hit 257 and the indian fans were saying all sorts of racist shit to the Aussies and abusing them in indian all day. When the Aussies tried to say anything back they got kicked out. One indian guy threw a plastic bottle at a bunch of Aussies and the security guard did nothing. An aussie guy picked it up and through it back and got kicked out. When india are involved there are massive double standards in the behaviour allowed. A security guard will hear the words "white c^nt" and do nothing but start cracking skulls when they hear "Black c^nt" said. I don't know why the Indians cant be more like the Poms where we get stuck into eachother all day all in good fun and it rarely ever gets nasty then you see them out a the pub after the days play and carry on late into the night
Fact is; due to sheer numbers of Indians, they have more billionaires than we do millionaires. They have the money, they have the market, they call the shots, be it racist or not. The thing that made me switch off cricket this year was the Vodafone 'text in how many runs do you think this batsman will get'. Completely and utterly pointless; it is over commercialised to the point that there is nothing pure about the game left. I now largely play other amateur level sports that are not very commercialised (athletics...). But, back to the Indian thing; countries such as England did pillage their country for a 200 year period before independence; perhaps for some this remains a sore point??
Your missing some top test cricket over a crappy marketing gimmick? I hate that vodafone stuff too especially when the MOTM is decided by Iphone app but thats the price we pay for having free sport on TV. Plus the Bupa adds are worse...
Chanting at the people who put their own safety at risk to protect them.
They certainly sound like aussies to me.
You were saying. . .
P Plate extraordinaire.
Who was the chant directed at, the security or the guy getting kicked out? What did the guy do? There will be heaps of different sides to the story...
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You are only on your L's, your opinion doesnt matter.
P Plate extraordinaire.
Seriously, that is your response?
Maybe they were chanting at the police because they are sick of being discriminated against.. In their own country?
That certainly doesn't sound very aussie to me.
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