Damn I want a Bumblebee!!!

[Rufys]

In the USA: $35,000

In Australia: $130,000

Sad sad situation.............

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[STEEV888]

2003 Lotus Elise.
Australia: 40k+
Rest-of-the-world: 10-15k
Pain has been felt.

[Trayner]

In the USA: $35,000

In Australia: $130,000

Sad sad situation.............

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Got to remember thou , they have to import it and convert it to right hand drive and that too . So its always going to be dearer then American prices

[50LTRv8]

I wonder if someone could break that cost down and detail what they are for.

I know there are import duties and such but it would be interesting to see the fine details.

I was talking to someone who had a GT500 at work, and I said that it was sad that they cost so much for what they are (a relativly cheap car in the states) and he looked offended so I quickly walked off lmao

[50LTRv8]

Got to remember thou , they have to import it and convert it to right hand drive and that too . So its always going to be dearer then American prices

Yes dearer, but by that much?

[Rufys]

They're manufactured in RHD now for the UK market. Not a big deal.

[Verynice]

same as our export holdens are cheaper to buy in the US than here...

[HamaTime™]

Yes dearer, but by that much?

Take into account:

Purchase Price
Transport to Australia (including custom duties and import taxes)
All required conversion parts
Labour hours for conversion
ADR testing/approval/registration
Dealer profit

It adds up....

[Rufys]

Take into account:

Purchase Price
Transport to Australia (including custom duties and import taxes)
All required conversion parts
Labour hours for conversion
ADR testing/approval/registration
Dealer profit

It adds up....

Can you read? Camaros are manufactured in RHD now. There is no reason to ad the cost of RHD conversion. The import costs and import taxes are the killers.

[STEEV888]

Your a smart man, do some digging and try to import one from uk, see what the costs are, i for one would be interested in knowing.

[vicarious]

Can you read? Camaros are manufactured in RHD now. There is no reason to ad the cost of RHD conversion. The import costs and import taxes are the killers.

but it still has to comply with the adr's, such as orange indicators, rear bumper reflectors, and i think they have to fit the clear reverse lights. And maybe have to fiddle around with radio for australian frequency

[Trayner]

Take into account:

Purchase Price
Transport to Australia (including custom duties and import taxes)
All required conversion parts
Labour hours for conversion
ADR testing/approval/registration
Dealer profit

It adds up....

Then they got to make money off it too , as it a rare item . No point going to all the work to get it here and only say make $5,000 in profit from all the work of getting it here

[Banicks]

I believe there is only one company in Australia that has the contacts with the necessary materials to undertake the RHD conversion. Without a doubt they would be making more than 5k profit per car though.

Hence the price tag. Not much we can do I'm afraid, all luxury items down here are ridiculously overpriced. Even our SS re-badged in USA is 10k cheaper for them.

[Rufys]

Jesus Christ!!!

Camaros are built for the UK market in RHD format and there is little to no changes required for ADR compliance to a car that complies with UK regulations!!!

Do I have to say it a forth time?

[some_guy]

Jesus Christ!!!

Camaros are built for the UK market in RHD format and there is little to no changes required for ADR compliance to a car that complies with UK regulations!!!

Do I have to say it a forth time?

Your first post compares an Australian vehicle to an American vehicle.
When people read USA they automatically think LHD hence why you keep getting the conversion answer. Maybe edit your first post and you won't need to keep telling people, no?

[vicarious]

are they in the uk yet officially as this says otherwise, and the ones on uk auto trader are lhd
Chevrolet Camaro Convertible - coming soon

[Rufys]

Your first post compares an Australian vehicle to an American vehicle.
When people read USA they automatically think LHD hence why you keep getting the conversion answer. Maybe edit your first post and you won't need to keep telling people, no?

WTF??? I know it's comparing Aussie to American. That's the point. It has nothing to do with conversions.

The SSV was sold as the Pontiac GTO in America, built in Australia as a LHD car and shipped over to them and sold for less.

Same thing here (except the Camaro isn't sold in Australia so you have to import one to get one - and you don't have to import a LHD car). My point is solely based on the fact that we get screwed constantly in Australia. People end up just accepting outrageously high prices for cars. Hell, in Germany the E class Merc is considered in the same was as the Commodore. The E Class coupe sells for around 45,000 Euro but we pay more than $100,000. All in an effort to protect a car market that shouldn't continue to be propped up artificially by government import tariffs.

[ari666]

Jesus Christ!!!

Camaros are built for the UK market in RHD format and there is little to no changes required for ADR compliance to a car that complies with UK regulations!!!

Do I have to say it a forth time?

you are a retard.

each RAW (registered automotive workshop) has to go through a lengthy process of having their first car audited and the work proceedures undertaken to do it. camaro's in the UK are not EU standards because they will be modified by workshops similarly to the australian RAWs system. which means we cant use EU or UK origin as an official standard.

if you can find me all the bits from the UK to swap one over to RHD for less that 20 grand delivered i would like 3 kits please. i have a camaro on the water as i type this, hoping to be landed by late march, added to my schedule next year sometime. the cheapest conversion package is easily a company here in australia and its a cool 17 grand. add on top of that the wiring, solder, tape, welding wire, gas, electricity, and least of all my precious time.

you CANNOT BRING A CAR INTO AUSTRALIA FROM THE UK THAT IS ALREADY RHD. it needs to be converted here in australia, by the RAW and by using that RAW evidence package and work instructions which have been thoroughly assed by DOTARS and conform to the vehicle standards bulletin 4.

all the crap we have to go through to bring these cars in is why you pay so much.

[Jebadayah]

I wonder if someone could break that cost down and detail what they are for.

I know there are import duties and such but it would be interesting to see the fine details.

I was talking to someone who had a GT500 at work, and I said that it was sad that they cost so much for what they are (a relativly cheap car in the states) and he looked offended so I quickly walked off lmao

A few months back, at the Perth international motor Show, I actually discussed the cost breakdown with a rep from the company that imports and coverts them. I know he was from the company and may not have been 100% truthful, but what he told me was the cars cost them $38,000 to buy in the US, they have to buy them through a dealer and pay taxes, onroads etc, Chev won't sell to them directly. Then it costs them $5k to ship the car to Australia, $30-35k to do the RHD conversion, something like $30k in import duties / luxury car taxes etc, and they make roughly $10-15k profit on the car once it's sold.

[vicarious]

i can see your point, but it probably comes down to how much extra fees we pay such as gst,lct,customs duty,quarantine,middle man and no doubt the warfies get paid high wages(i know the crane drivers do)

heres a break down by the ato for an example
Imported New Luxury Car


Calculation


Amount

Customs Value (CV)





$56,000.00

Customs Duty = 5% x CV


= 0.05 x 56,000


$2,800.00

Transport and Insurance (T&I)





$1,500.00

VoTI (CV+Duty+T&I)


= 56,000 + 2,800 + 1,500


$60,300.00

GST = 10% x VoTI


= 0.10 x 60,300


$6,030.00
Luxury car value (LCV) = (GST+VoTI)

= 6,030 + 60,300


$66,330.00

LCT = (LCV-LCT threshold) x 10/11 x 0.33


= 66,330-57,466 x 10/11 x 0.33


$2,659.20

TOTAL PAYABLE (Duty + GST + LCT)


2,800 + 6,030 + 2,659.20


$11,489.20

[ari666]

car cost in the states
import duties: %7
customs agent fees (approx) 500
GST %10
shipping (approx) $3k
COMPLIANCE $35k
stamp duty %4
registration 700

luxury car tax is only if the car is valued over $70k: if so its 10%

[Jebadayah]

car cost in the states
import duties: %7
customs agent fees (approx) 500
GST %10
shipping (approx) $3k
COMPLIANCE $35k
stamp duty %4
registration 700

luxury car tax is only if the car is valued over $70k: if so its 10%

Thanks for that. So I guess the guy I spoke to was fairly accurate with everything but the taxes, looks like they're making around $25 - $30k per car then. Which is probably pretty reasonable, they'd need to run at that kinda profit margin to make the business viable.

[ari666]

also, if you are smart [read lucky] you can get the US tax returned when you export the vehicle.

[ClairBear]

Do I have to say it a forth time?

Seeing as ari imports cars and I imagine you never have, I would assume he knows from experience, so you can stop repeating yourself now.

[Rufys]

Seeing as ari imports cars and I imagine you never have, I would assume he knows from experience, so you can stop repeating yourself now.

So he knows about imports? Wow! Good on him. That's awesome! He's a hero! Too bad my OP has NOTHING to do with imports. Just a basic price comparison and the fact that there's roughly a $100,000 premium in Australia for Camaros. Considering they were designed, engineered and developed by Holden in Australia. It's sad!