R U A Statistic ? or have you made 50 OK
They reckon if you get to 50 the chance of terminating yourself in a car accident is reduced to nearly nothing, and most over 50 would probably agree.
Having owned in order the beasts, 6 other cars and now the VS, several large boats, and more motor bikes than I can remember both street and racing I have survived OK I reckon, allthough the HT I did put under a truck at around 70 mph while looking for the ciggy lighter, and while that one did hurt a bit I survived with some bruises and small cuts, and one RR bike left some fairly nasty scars that had removed meat down to the bone, but I've done allright IMO.
But now seeing fools scream around the small town doing 120 in a 40 zone one tends to call them non persons, or just another statistic going to an accident, I don't apologise for that comment as it's all too true.
But being told by a kid that adjusting the VS headlights required a trip to a GMH workshop one has to worry a tad, when the manual kinda has that covered, can't these people read ? and that the process of adjusting the headlights of a VS was not rocket science, god help us, what do the teachers do at school ? smoke dope and get drunk every day, it would seem to be true the rumors my 19 YO daughter said while at high school.
It's a worry and all kids should be taught both life skiils and where to at least put the petrol in their blown big block chevy getting about 2 mpg doing laps around and around town.
may I suggest that before being given a license to kill that they be forced to go do an advanced driver training course, or is that too much to ask ? being able to operate a vehicle by driving around town without crashing and being able to really drive seem to be far apart now days,
Maybe I'll wake up and it will be just a nightmare, bugger, sorry it's for real.
GOD
what are you on about?? What do the headlights on your VS have to do with anything??
My english must be slipping, just another thread where some kid that "knows their VS" has to take it to a GM workshop the adjust the things, a pretty easy thing to do for most.
One might normally expect a person with just average intelligence would be able to find the headlight adjusters on the vehicle they drive.
If the lack of something so simple is said to be impossible I worry about who has control of that 3.8L weapon who is also sharing the road with me and you.
That is the point.
Banned
LOL...was about 2 ask the same question....but i can understand wat your sayin when it comes 2 a drivers trainin course, but do u realise when som1 does a course like that there confedence is boosted a fair amount so there for would b more likely to take the risks n do stupid things....just my 2 cents clint.
Yes they then think they are V8 supercar drivers and will then drive acordingly, so how does the system teach the kids that manage to kill themself and innocent others every day to stop it ?.
I'm all ears.
Licenses are just way too easy to get.
It's like a rich kid that gets his P plates and goes out and buys a Lambo that does way over 300 K's without trying, they have to be limited to smaller less powerful cars, they do it for bikes don't they with the 250, well they do here in QLD where you have to ride a 250 for a year, before being able to buy virtually anything they can afford.
Last edited by digisol; 15-02-2006 at 10:02 PM.
moderator- for now anyway
Licences are a damn sight harder to get these days than they were 30- 50 years ago thats for sure so I don't see where the hell you guys are coming from. The rules and requirements are harder and stricter than ever so where do people get the idea its easier to get a licence now than it was back in the 'good ol days'?
In europe train is expensive 2k if ya good.
No P plates and no hold on engine power.
All comes doen to the training you receieve!
And it SUX here in Australia. P platers Most of em drive like shit.Hog the right lane
Cant indicate and think there all good cause some idiot gave em a licence.
WE NEED MORE DRIVER TRAINING AND BE HARDER ON GETTING A LICENCE!!!!
the holden mechanic
thats right....if you ask a person that works at the registration office how many people they turn down for their licenses because they fail the tests i bet they would say more than half
Surely you jest ? a gentle drive around yeppoon without hitting a gutter or speeding, a hill start without stalling it, answer 30 or so questions and your away, how hard is that ?
Remember the same person is the one wrapped around a telegraph pole after losing it at 250+ the next week.
I can only speak for the QLD rules.
moderator- for now anyway
Enlighten me then, what test did you have to pass to get your licence?
Did you have a set amount of hours to complete?
Were you required to fill out a logbook?
Did you have to have you p plates for 3 years?
Did you have to obide by a 0.00 BAC?
Were you restriced from driving V8s S/C or turbo vehicles?
Just to name a few things......
Banned
its not driver trainin cos thats crap doenst do a thing i think....its driver awareness that need 2 b focused on!!! but i dont think theres ne easy answer 2 this, cant stop kids from owning 6 n turbos n 8's cos ya can do just as much damage in a 4 or 3 cyl car!!!
I agree it was much simpler then but cars did not go as fast now did they.
Yes
No log book
P's for 12 mths
.08
And no but they were a tad exe then and not so common a 1st year apprentice got $32 / week when I left school, the Lambo was outa my price range.
But all that is a long time ago, one does learn with age and the odd crash, I hit a 12 ton truck at 140 so I have been there, it tends to shock the right foot to not move as far.
Interesting, ever seen a tiny rotary engine after peripheral porting that does near 18,000 rpm woo hoo.
Last edited by digisol; 15-02-2006 at 10:25 PM.
ill tell you one thing that put my driving straight, was when i sore a really bad car accident and some one died right infront of me. its kinda sad that it takes something like that to tell you how dangerous speeding is.
the holden mechanic
u obviously havent seen the rotor that aerospace centre has..... does 45,000 revs per minute and couldnt track how many more it was doing after that because it was a constant signal to the tacho so it just shot up and kept going......Originally Posted by digisol
whats the only way that people are going to learn though???? like really why does everyone keep sayin that experience is important with driving, so they take away the chance to get that experience.......
this argument is like a circle.....keeps going on and on because one argument leads to another argument on the other parties side
Last edited by Boonz; 15-02-2006 at 10:32 PM.
Aerospace does not have a outlet in yeppoon, but what you say makes it worse.
It's a catch 22, to get experience one must drive for some time, the new driver is the problem.
back to the beginning, education.
the holden mechanic
the aerospace centre is in america.....its like NASA but only for testing stuff to use in space...... america was enough to make me think about changing my driving habits.....
LOL Brisbane is closer and just as dangerous.
the holden mechanic
doing 90 mile on the freeway in the slow lane is scary.....
wouldn't dissagree there but in Germany on the Autobahn there is no speed limit, so a lambo doing 320 is legal if your "within your lane" and appear to know what your doing.
The slow lane there may be 200 k's
the holden mechanic
but do you see what im gettin at???
people arent going to get the chance to learn because their resources are getting taken away from them.....
its like trying to ski without a boat.....just doesnt happen
I must agree with Digisol. I have had my license now for 35 years. Yes It was easier then to get your ticket, but the cars just werent what they are today. I admit I did some pretty silly things back then, but I cringe today when I see some of these young guys who think they are Peter Brock. As a volunteer firefighter I attend numerious accidents on the Princes Hwy and local roads in Gippsland in Victoria and I would venture to say that you would not like to see the things that I have seen. But then maybe these young kids should so that they can see the consequences.
What if theres snow>>??
the holden mechanic
There is here ! and it's 27' long and easy good for 50+ knots if someone else is paying for the fuel burn at 5 litres/mile.
The entire deal is the license is tooeasy to get and the cars available are endless in performance, sure I was a petrol head as all were.
The fastest car I have ever been in was a NSW "registered" HT monaro with a blown big block chev engine much modded and the blower was not for show it was turning, now that guy was a total nutter way more than a petrol head he drank methanol for brekky, picture it, cruisin along with a car full off friends all off our tits just idling "literally" at 50 mph in a 35 zone in 4th, he says watch this fellas, and casually changes into 2nd and tramps the thing, Woot... the back simply lifted up went sideways and burnt out both tyres nearly 15" wide, now that's what I've seen and had he lost it I may not be here now.
Another Bellair chev with a pissy full house small block done for the drags, only a poor 2 speed powerglide, but at around 160 mph he gently nudges it into 2nd and one was rammed back into the seat, I should have died many times, but I learnt from those crazy daze and now drive like an old man.
Spoon?
I really don't get the point your trying to make.
You say our licenses are too easy to get but back in the day it was eaiser.
You say our cars too fast but then mention your mates cars that would destroy 90% of P platers cars.
I actually agree with you on more driver training but I don't agree on limiting drivers options on cars.
I don't know if the numbers will backme up or not but I'm pretty sure more kids died in accidents back in your day than we do now. The speeds haven't increased much but the safety side of things has. My Dad had a car that would run a 13 second flat 1/4. Would take another 1/8 to stop and wouldn't handle at all. I've got a car that runs a low 15 1/4 stops in half the distance and handles like a dream. But the knew p laws won't allow me to drive it because it has engine work. Now whohonestly had the better chance of killing them selves?
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