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Police abuseing powers?
hey guys i was wondering if yous could help me with a insadent(sp?) that happened to my mate last night. we were at a party invited of course anyways at about 1am things started getting pretty wild as in a heap of gate crashes atemped to get into the party and of course they were refused but they didnt like like and started fighting in the streets and smashing up cars and stuff and there was one Sliver VS with a set of rims being real stupid and stuff anyways we saw a fight brake out right next to our cars (other end of teh street from this party so we all go out there to look after our cars. anyways the cops come and all the crashers leave. but this isnt before we see this sliver VS go flying down the street and suddenly brake and then take off agian. anyways we all leave and met up at the local maccas. and we then all drive off to a friends late night takeaway shop (g spot for all u in canberra) where we heard that there was a possablity that that sliver VS has hit some one and they are looking for a sliver commo with rims. now this is where it gets interesting as all we heard at the time was they were looking for a sliver commo with rims. and we thought that they were looking for my mate who has a sliver VT commodore wagon with rims anyways we finally met back up with my mate with the VT and he tells us that the cops pull him over and pull him outta his car by his hair, hand cuff him and tell him and his pasengers (all handcuffed) to lay on the ground and not move while they completly search his car and question him over every little dint in his car. they then say that his under arrest for hit and run etc. he also said that one copper came up to him and was saying shit like your f**ked now boy and shit. anyways one of teh passengers in my mates car over hears the cop raido saying that they have the wrong car and they should be looking for a VS sedan anyways the cops dont hear this for another 5 odd mins and when they finally do they all go quite let my mates go and tell them to piss off. now guys dose this seem like fair treatment for my mate that was completly inocent? we dont think so but i would like to hear all ur opinions on the matter. sorry for the long post but i needed to get it off my chest thanks guys
Beardie
NDK
Sounds a bit rough, but I can understand y they treated him like that.
i'd probly do the same to some1 who did a hit n run.
Thats a pretty low act.
But at the same time I can understand you mates point of view too.
Being treated like that when you've done nothing wrong suck arse.
I'd be inclinded to make a formal complaint of some sort.
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oh dont worry, ive had it happen to me, a sargeant from the local station arced up to me and when i went off at him wanted to arrest me, i said "not without a broken jaw you pussy f*****t" and he left pretty fast along with the rest of the cops lol
theres a few bad cops that ruin it for the rest
OMR346
yea man thats ###ed up shit.
im not sure wot u can do about it. my thoughts would be to go see legalaid about it and see wot they say.
i had the same sort of incident happen to me in southbank (brisbane city) about a year ago. i was walkin through with about 8 or so mates and the cops came runnin up to us and told us all to get on the ground and they reackon we tried stabbin someone and robed them. they soon checked cameras properly and figured out it wasnt us and let us go but there wasnt much we could do about it unfortunatally.
but theres different rules in different states so see wot a solicitor says about it
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A classic case of jumping the gun in the cops case but you can understand why when something as serious as a hit and run has happened.
Bad luck for your mate tho', wrong place, wrong time, wrong colour car!
Cops have a hard enough job as it is, everyone makes mistakes and they're just human, would let it go, just my 2 cents.
Yeah, agree with Pumba. Not much you could prolly do about it...is there still that bloke on here that's a cop? why not PM him, see what he says. Cops will pretty much always gt away with shit.It's a fact. They'll lie in court..and who's the judge meant to believe? A citizen or a copper? I still reckon our police force is corrupt. Just my 2 cents.
NDK
yeah i understand why thy took it so serious but he has more of a problem with the way they treated him and his passengers as they were consistionly rude to him and treated him like he wasnt human. and the fact that there wasnt any damage on the car desides a few car park dings if i was a cop that would say to me that that car didnt hit anyoneOriginally Posted by vtjw
How many silver commodores with rims were in the area at the time? Few I'm guessing, so the cops would have been reasonably sure that this was the **** that hit someone
Get over it and let them do their job
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i thought once ur cuffed they have to take you to the station and file papers cause if they let you go there and then they can you can charge them with assault
The copper should stop and think,
the car pulled up with out any worries = easy to get along with
Thus meaning that there was no need to go get on his high horse when the people would most likely co-operate
It would be a diff story if the car didn't want to stop.
NDK
hmm really well if this is true im gonna have a word with my mate as it wasnt one cop car that was there he said that there was 4 cop cars and at least 8 cops there. and if he can do something about it he just might
Moderator Puppeh
fake some injuries then file a report with the police. tell them your mates were abused and beaten rodney king style
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did your mate get their badge numbers. he can get them for assault. he can get them for wrongful arrest. he could sue if he wanted.
I'd make a complaint... but there's probably not alot of point pressing charges or anything. Likely it won't go anywhere, and in reality, they were doing their job.
They were looking for a silver commo with rims... your mate was in the area in a car matching the description so they have to check it out. Yeah rough handling but shit happens.
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Its not fair but its not surprising either.
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Leave it alone. Canberra is a small town when all's said and done and you don't want a grudge match with the police family; they know how to stuff you about for years to come. Even if you had a perfect opportunity to get your own back on someone who you had a grudge with, would you do it if you knew he was a mafia family member?
Police are like that in some ways and they stick together and "the family" has a long memory.
Police cannot be charged with assault even if it is proved that they made a mistake. It's called reasonable suspicion, imagine the shit they'd cop if the person they let go turned out to be a wanted crim.
The Kicking Horse
WRONG!! I was involved in a complaint against a police officer. Basically a cop kicked me out of the cricket for nothing and tried to stand over me. I didn't back down and we got into a huge yelling match, so he decided he'll kick me out with help of another cop.Police cannot be charged with assault even if it is proved that they made a mistake. It's called reasonable suspicion, imagine the shit they'd cop if the person they let go turned out to be a wanted crim.
Of course I made a complaint and I was given the option of pressing assault charges against the officer..
Good cops hate these coyboy cops as much as anyone else does. A police officers job is to protect you, not to harrass you.
Do you think they would've responded differently if it was a family in the car? If so, what they did was discrimination.
You send a letter in to the Police Ombudsman and CC a copy to the Ethical Standards Department. Police should never be allowed to get away with that shit.
I feel strongly about this..
NDK
yeah i know what u mean. we most likely wont do anything about all this im more interested in knowing what you guys think about the whole thing and our options if we do decieced to do anything. thanks for all your help guys and keep your opinons coming
The Kicking Horse
Mate, do something. If what you described above is what actually happened, that's bullshit. It's violating basic human rights IMO.
If you want to know how you can make a complaint and have it followed up, feel free to take it up with me in PM..
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Police abusing powers?
hey guys, i was wondering if you could help me with a incident which happened to my mate last night.
we were at a party (invited of course) however at about 1am things started getting pretty wild ie. a heap of gate crashers attempted to get into the party and of course they were refused, but they didnt like like and started fighting in the streets and smashing up cars and stuff.
there was one Sliver VS with a set of rims being real stupid and stuff.
we saw a fight break out right next to our cars (other end of the street from this party) so we all go out there to look after our cars.
anyway the cops come and all the crashers left. However, this isnt before we see this sliver VS go flying down the street and suddenly brake and then take off again.
we all leave and meet up at the local maccas then all drive off to a friends late night takeaway shop (g spot for all u in canberra) where we heard that there was a possibility that a sliver VS has hit someone and they are looking for a sliver commo with rims.
now this is where it gets interesting; as all we heard at the time was they were looking for a sliver commo with rims.
we thought that they were looking for my mate who has a sliver VT commodore wagon with rims.
we finally met back up with my mate with the VT and he tells us that the cops pull him over and pull him out of his car by his hair, hand-cuff him and tell him and his passengers (all handcuffed) to lay on the ground and not move while they completely search his car and question him over every little dint in his car.
they then say that his under arrest for hit and run etc. he also said that one copper came up to him and was saying shit like your f**ked now boy and shit.
Anyhow, one of the passengers in my mates car overheard the cop radio saying that they have the wrong car and they should be looking for a VS sedan, but the cops dont hear this for another 5 odd mins and when they finally do they all go quiet, let my mates go and tell them to piss off. now guys does this seem like fair treatment for my mate that was completly innocent?
we dont think so but i would like to hear all your opinions on the matter.
sorry for the long post but i needed to get it off my chest. thanks guys
Beardie
** my opinion? get over it. they have a job to do and if they had good reason to beleive it was those guys doing the wrong thing, they are not going to risk trouble.
Maybe heavy handed, but if they were acting on info they were given by someone else they had to do their job.
im sure your mates didnt give them a mouthful or anything.
Funny, we never have problems with gate-crashers or idiots here. maybe its the different socio-economic situation/location.
Rubber should be punished
What ever happened to "innocent till proven guilty"?
The Kicking Horse
Would you respond the same way if the cops pulled over a car with you, your wife and your parents? And they proceeded to handcuff the lot of you face down on the pavement whilst swearing at you. And then telling you to f*ck off, just after they'd realised they'd pulled over the wrong model of car?
Would you write it off as, doing their job albeit a bit heavy handed?
I know I'd be spitting chips..
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