yes i have searched but didnt find what i wanted to know...
Does any1 know if overseas radar detectors work here on our australian roards? and do the cheap 1s work or am i betta of gettin a descent 1?
in all honesty it'd be best not to speed :P only takes one cop with his radar off to notice you fly past and thats it.
look up beltronics, also apparently the cops where plotting to bring in the uk spec radars but as it stands each country uses one band or another, ask at a local audiocom.
also note they're looking to ban them so i dont know what the go is there.
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All overseas detectors work fine here in Aus.
Newer one's can be selected to turn off certain frequencies. For example you can shut off X band so you don't have to deal with it going off everytime you go past automatic doors and the like.
If you're on the East coast then all detectors are detectable by Stalcar radar detector detectors and there are dedicated cops who solely drive around to pick up detector users.
VG2 immunity does not stop you from being detected by the Stalcar!
True dat - you'll get picked up by a detector detector, and that can cost big $$ My brother had his confiscated and a $1000 fine in NSW, and that was 10years ago. Also, they are near useless on LIDAR (the long range of LIDAR and the fact there is virtually no scatter) So by the time you detect LIDAR the cop already has your speed. Also, with fixed cameras, the signal is quite weak, so again, you'll have been pinged before you detect it. They are illegal in all states except WA iirc.
yer i live in west aust an got flashed for the second time last night. i was only over the limit by 10kph. should slow down but not use to livin in near tha city yet
whistler radar the best on the market have been for 30 years
other brands bell probably the only to i'd look at
look for creative electronics
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Just don't speed is the CHEAPEST and best option available on the market.
The whole Speeding Kills campaign with the TAC is true with what they say. I know this for a fact from watching comparisons on a Defence Driving Course. Plus less speeding = less fuel consumption.. everyones a winner![]()
what u say is very trueOriginally Posted by tr3nt
however revenue raising is just revenue raising
if only state gov's see it that way![]()
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Yeah, it is revenue raising.. however.. they won't raise so much revenue if people stuck to the limit.
all radar detctors are easily detectible because the cops just hit you with a short burst of radar and then they take you speed. so therefore if you brake in between the bursts you willl be searched for a detector. simple and effective.
My old man bouht one over seas, used it in his vs.... anyways it was suposed to be undetctable as they all say.... coming back to syd from melb coppers drove past lights on, u -turn, chase pull over. guns out up to the car. old lady was alseep in the back i was driving, dad half asleep. Once the coppers settled, they told us bout them.... the main use for ppl having them is so they can chuck drugs etc or woteva they are traffcing out of the car or hide them b4 being pulled over. and of course speeding.
anways after a big fine we were off. this bout 4yrs ago. but the cops couldhave booked me for driving with a speed evasion device, old man for supplying one(as its illegal to supply), and dad again for owning one.
expesive lessons, i know today the fines are bigger and im sure its points off as well.
not worth it in my opinion.![]()
Im probly wrong so dont listen to me
rader detectors just encourage stupidity. if you feel you need to have one you shouldnt be on the road
what he said ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
You put you left foot in, your put your right foot in , you take your left foot out and you slide it all about!
and i'll third those comments. ^^^^^^^
Wow thats a big call, no one needs high HP engines or 19inch rims but people sill have them, and mates proberbly encourage more stupitity that most things so should we not drive with them either, I have been overtaken when doing the speed limit by more cars without radar detectors that with them.Originally Posted by Troy711
ok, hows this... why dont you tell me why radar detectors are useful and what advantages a car fitted with one has over a car that doesnt have one. but here is the catch... it has to be legal![]()
Hows what? what have the usefullness and advantages got to do with encouraging stupidity or needing/not needing one, nothing? which argument or statement are you putting forward?. Radar detectors are legal in WA so concidering that the person who asked the question lives in WA they do come in useful.
Last I knew 19" rims and tyres on a ute was illegal due to the insufficent load rating on the tyres, if I am wrong I stand corrected if they are illegal then either people in glass housed shouldnt throw stones, but prove me wrong and an appology is all yours.
All the guy asked was advice on radar detectors, which last post I forgot to mention was I have had overseas radar detectors and they work fine, would the same comments have been said if he was asking about a 19/20 inch set of rims? I doubt it.
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why dont you stop beating around the bush and answer my question?
and use paragraphs too please
Radar detectors are useful because they alert you to police radar.
Do you know what a paragraph is? If so please feel free to point out the errors of my ways. I guess now its my turn to ask the questions.
Have I struck a sore nerve with the whole rim thing?
this has got interesting
why would you need to know where a police radar is setup? so you can stop speeding i guess..?Originally Posted by VY2ENJOY
just proves that they encourage stupid behavior. if you know where cops are set up you wont speed or be stupid.
as for 19s on a ute your guess is as good as mine, so no... you havent struck a sore nerve. but if 19s are such a bad thing for a ute why does HSV insts on putting 19s on the maloo? dont you think that a car company would only fit equipment that is ADR compliant?
you don't really beleive that radar encourages speeding.Originally Posted by Troy711
it's not hard to speed limit cars with gps cutting engine power to slow the
car down to the given speed limit.
i wonder how many have been pinched for overspeed on a downhill?
how many rear ender have there been because to many people are looking at their
speedo instead of were their going?
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WHEELS AND TYRESOriginally Posted by VY2ENJOY
All wheels and tyres fitted must comply with the Road Traffic (Miscellaneous) Regulations 1999.
The main points to note are:-
(a) The wheel track must not be increased by more than 26mm beyond the maximum specified by the vehicle manufacturer. Maximum allowable tracks for individual vehicle models can be obtained from Transport SA. The wheel track is the distance measured across the vehicle from the centre-line of one tyre to the centre-line of the other tyre on the same axle.
(b) The wheels and tyres must not foul the body, suspension or any part of the vehicle under any operating conditions and must not project beyond the bodywork, when the wheels are on the straight ahead position and viewed from above.
(c) It is recommended that the tyres fitted to an axle of a vehicle must be of the same carcass construction. The tyre size designation of tyres fitted to an axle is required to be the same.
(d) The tyres fitted must be suitable for the rim. The tyre retailer should have information about matching tyres and rims.
(e) The load rating of the tyres must be adequate for the vehicle. ADR 24 vehicles (manufactured on or after 1/1/73) have this information listed on the tyre placard. The load rating of any tyre fitted must not be less than lowest load rating listed on the placard. For vehicles manufactured before 1/1/73 the tyres must have a load carrying capacity equal to or greater than those supplied as standard equipment by the vehicle manufacturer.
(f) Spacers are not permitted between the hub and wheel (unless originally fitted by the manufacturer)
(g) If the wheels of a vehicle are retained by multiple nuts or set screws, not by splines and a single nut, then the wheel nuts must match the tapered holes in the wheel and the nuts must be engaged for their full depth of thread.
(h) Wheels that have been widened by inserting a spacer band are not permitted.
(i) Vehicles manufactured on or after 1 January 1973 (ADR 24) are not permitted to increase or decrease the diameter of the wheel by more than 50 mm than the largest or smallest wheel listed on the tyre placard.
(j) The overall diameter of a wheel and tyre fitted to a vehicle manufactured on or after 1 January 1973 (ADR 24) must not be more than 15 mm greater than the largest tyre size listed on the tyre placard and not more than 15 mm less than the smallest tyre size listed on the placard. Specifications for overall tyre diameters are listed in the Tyre and Rim Standards Manual, issued by the Tyre and Rim Association of Australia.
(k) Vehicles manufactured prior to 1 January 1973 are not required to comply with (i) and (j) above however consideration must be given to clearance of the tyres and wheels on suspension and body components.
(l) Passenger cars manufactured on or after 1/7/88 must also comply with ADR 18/.. that stipulates that the speedometer must indicate the actual vehicle speed, for all speeds above 40 kilometres per hour to an
accuracy of plus or minus 10 percent.
When selecting aftermarket wheel rims for a motor vehicle, ensure that the offset of the rim does not vary by more than 13mm from the original rim fitted by the vehicle manufacturer. This will ensure that the wheel
track is not increased by more than 26mm beyond the maximum specified by the vehicle manufacturer.
Transport SA has a list of maximum allowable wheel tracks for a large variety of vehicles and can be consulted to confirm if a wheel track is within acceptable limits.
Wheel rims fitted to passenger cars manufactured after 1st July 1985, which are not original equipment or an original equipment replacement by the vehicle manufacturer must be indelibly marked with the wheels nominal
diameter, width and offset and with identification of the manufacturer of the wheel and the standard to which the wheel was manufactured. This should be checked before the wheels are purchased.
Tyres fitted to a vehicle must have a tread pattern at least 1.5 millimetres deep on all parts of the tyre that normally come into contact with the road surface. Tyres are manufactured with tread wear indicators that are
located in the tyre grooves in at least four points around the circumference of the tyre. If the tread wear indicators are at the same level as the overall tread, or there is less than 1.5 millimetres of tread depth on the
tyre, then the tyre is considered to be illegal.
Tyres fitted to passenger cars may not be treated by recutting or re-grooving of the tread unless the tyre is constructed to do so and marked as such.
so what that tells me is so long as the load rating is the same and that the wheels are not too big then 19s are fine on a ute.
time for an appology?
EDIT: cant find australian wide standards but i am assuming most states would have the same/similar laws