NT speed limit web site

[1HotSSV]

EDITED BY 12Voltking.

Ok, I don't see the reason to close this thread, I think it should be open for discussion but there will be NO spamming of websites.

[Wombat]

Hmm...if "speed kills", and "every K over is a killer", then why doesn't the NT have the highest death rates in the country?

Of course, they do have some other "interesting" statistics...like single vehicle accidents where up to fifteen people are injured...apparently this results from certain groups of people in broken down old unroadworthy 4x4's out in the scrub coming adrift when full of piss and rolling it with all thier relatives piled in the back...this was the explanation given to my nephew the cop when he was up there on holidays.

[pro_gmh]

if ppl feel like that cant handle that speed then they shouldnt travel that speed.
if ppl are keen enough to do 140 then there gonna do it anyway regardless of law.

on the other hand, its cheaper to put speed limiters in cars than to enforce speed limits.

off topic but whats the difference between a terriotry and a state?

[MaN|aC]

Ive planed for my holiday next year to drive through NT via to Adelaide because the Territory roads doesnt have any speed limits.

If this goes through ill be going via to Hay then

[J_D]

Waits for mods to shut this down.

[pandaman]

if ppl feel like that cant handle that speed then they shouldnt travel that speed.
if ppl are keen enough to do 140 then there gonna do it anyway regardless of law.

on the other hand, its cheaper to put speed limiters in cars than to enforce speed limits.

off topic but whats the difference between a terriotry and a state?

A territory doesn't have as much governmental indepedence as a state. For instance the federal government can squash any territory legislation it doesn't like. Few other differences but thats the main one that's been annoying everyone lately.

Personally I reckon the idea of 100/110 limits on NT roads is only going to piss people off and maybe cause a tiny reduction in road fatalities. But it will mean more revenue, so you can guarantee that all the government types are keen on it.

[s0sage]

i wonder what the fuel economy of cars are like at 200kmh vs 100kmh

of course you use more fuel going faster ... but you get a damn sight further

[Doctor Bob]

have a look at the population per square km too & compare to other states, that might give you a hint why the road toll is lower

Rob

[pandaman]

i wonder what the fuel economy of cars are like at 200kmh vs 100kmh

of course you use more fuel going faster ... but you get a damn sight further

Shitful, air resistance increases with speed. Not linearly either, above 100ish air resistance starts to get really interesting.

have a look at the population per square km too & compare to other states, that might give you a hint why the road toll is lower

Rob

Ahh, but they get shitloads of tourists as well. If memory serves the main source of fatalities is retard tourists doing stupid speeds, whereas most of the locals are happy with 130-150. You're right though, they do stand out like dogs balls in the statistics. Only have to do a quick google search to see that.

[J_D]

i wonder what the fuel economy of cars are like at 200kmh vs 100kmh

of course you use more fuel going faster ... but you get a damn sight further

The most fuel efficient speed to travel at is 90kph. After that you start eating up all your fuel fighting wind resistance.

[calais_304]

i can bet a few of those road fatalities are from the aboriginals lying on the road at night and people not seeing them till the last second, true stuff, went from darwin to adelaide and i remember a cop telling my parents that if we saw any even if we hit one, dont stop! keep on driving to the next town and report it to the cops there, apparently they do it to get ppl to stop and then rob em!
also i think it would be silly to lower the speed on that hwy, isn't fatigue the biggest killer anyway not speed? those who have done it, don't you think travellin at 100 on that hwy would be a bit boring and tiring? at least cruisin at 140 you don't wanna slack off.

[vt1538]

i wonder what the fuel economy of cars are like at 200kmh vs 100kmh

of course you use more fuel going faster ... but you get a damn sight further

At 170 I get around 17l per 100k. With the distances involved I will usually average 150 as this prevents me from having to grab fuel from one of the rip off roadhouses.
As for the deaths on the road most of these are caused from high speed on the dirt roads. Some people just dont have any sense when it comes to offroad driving. A look at the yards of the rental companies will see at least one rolled over toyota a week, sometimes many more.
As for the unroadworthy cars filled to the brim with an intoxicated driver this is becoming more common place.
As for people lying on the road. There was one last week that was killed doing exactly that.
I dont think lowering the speed limit to 100/110 will make any difference, except for make the roadhouses more money. Around 150 would be more sensible as holding a speed above this really leaves you open to dramas with livestock.

[vlv8vic]

ive heard the wildlife (and aparently locals lying on the road) are the speedy drivers biggest enemy.

[vt1538]

ive heard the wildlife (and aparently locals lying on the road) are the speedy drivers biggest enemy.

Luckily we have road trains that bring the balance back to even.
Cattle arent as much of a problem now as 99% of the road is fenced. It is mainly roos & eagles that cause the problem. Lets not forget the migrating elderly during holiday breaks.

[Boonz]

i wonder what the fuel economy of cars are like at 200kmh vs 100kmh

of course you use more fuel going faster ... but you get a damn sight further

worked out to better at 170-180 when we travelled up to darwin in a V6 WH stato, did between 900-1000 k's driving a day on a about 85-90 litres of fuel so its not too bad

[vlv8vic]

Lets not forget the migrating elderly during holiday breaks.

id hate to even get started on that one, i drive 100km to work each day then the same home at the end on 100km of winding, blind cornered coastal road with not one overtaking lane. not bad until other states have school holidays and the elderly tow their vans along that bloody road at 70kmh.
not far from the SA border so they are the biggest offenders.

[vt1538]

worked out to better at 170-180 when we travelled up to darwin in a V6 WH stato, did between 900-1000 k's driving a day on a about 85-90 litres of fuel so its not too bad

I can only get 400ks at 180 in my VY . Thats with a 55litre tank on my own with nothing in the back but fishing gear.

[s0sage]

you got an extra two pots to fill with juice mate

[Boonz]

statesmans also have higher diff ratio so better fuel economy at cruising speeds

[Keepleft]

12VoltKing - I'd respectfully like you to seriously reconsider allowing the link that was provided by the oringal poster, the issue is a life and death one, and one that affects this user group daily. An exception if you will.

The website from what I can tell is not another forum, but is so folk can present their views on the matter.

To date, NT government are under firm pressure to oppose the limit, but are also under heavy Commonwealth pressure to implement a rural default, among many other 'options'.

NT residents *MUST NOW* continue to make the effort to write a letter, or email their MP's and media of your opposition to an absolute speed limit, so intended to apply on roads where (//) is posted, and as a rural default generally.

Not on, not needed, say NO.

VT 1538 wrote: Around 150 would be more sensible as holding a speed above this really leaves you open to dramas with livestock.

Imposing a speed limit is NOT the answer, you'll only parrot train people to drive at the numerical speed limit, in your case one that is 'high'.

The speed derestriction, is the safest form of speed managment applicable to a length of road basis, since it puts the onus for safe-speed directly onto the driver. A speed limit, even a high one only results in the bunching-up effect, where trains of vehicles tailgate each other. This is 'marriage' and marriage is deadly. "Safe speed" by nature VARIES, it is NOT a constant, despite what The Peoples Republic of Victoria tells you:-)

IT is better to DIVORCE traffic, keep it seperated, and here, ONLY speed derestriction can do this.

NT could adopt a rural default, but MUST NOT apply that default on roads where the (//) is used.

[J_D]

You can tell people drive blindly to the speed limit when you read some of the comments on that site about tourists going nuts and doing insane speeds and killing themselves. The problem isnt the lack of a speed limit, its the fact that people cant use their own judgement. The people of NT dont drive like maniacs because they live with unrestricted roads all the time and are trusted to make their own decision, instead of being treated like 10 year olds.

[Tasmaniak]

nope, link stays removed.

[calais_304]

can someone please pm me the site.

[vt1538]

statesmans also have higher diff ratio so better fuel economy at cruising speeds

10l/100k is still highly doubtful at 180kmh.

[calais_304]

also just remembered, you can actually get a speeding fine if your doing silly speeds, ie if someone is doing 180km/h in an excel there gonna get booked but if you doing 180km/h in say a HSV GTS or FPV F6 you'll be fine, but it's really up to the cop on the day.