Slander is not slander if it's the truth is my opinion

[Hairy Eater]

I'm sure that slander isn't slander if it's the truth.... i'm very sure about this ... but i may be corrected .... any thoughts on this subject?

[minux]

I'm sure that slander isn't slander if it's the truth.... i'm very sure about this ... but i may be corrected .... any thoughts on this subject?

You are wrong, if you say to another person, this company sucks blah blah or this person sucks blah blah, it is considered slander.

[daron]

yes your corect
but it has to be a corent saying ie your a wanker and 99% ppl do it so therefore 99% corect in calling someone a wanker and its not slander
calling a company they suck is slander cause they dont

[sixshooter]

Huh ? wtf ?

[Dan355]

Nah mate i rekon that 100% correct....thats my opinion anyway

[Pretender]

The truth can be slander if you cannot possibly know if your claim or statement is true in every possible case.

Example: The scenario - A company does not honour the warranty on a product you purchased.
Through the internet you discover thousands of consumers who have had the same issue with this company.
You publicly state that this company does not honour their warranties.
That is slander as you do not know the outcome of every possible warranty claim made. Even though your statement may be true you cannot readily verify it as such.
Likewise you can publicly say "in my opinion this product is of poor quality" without fear but you cannot publicly say "this company makes poor quality products"

Yes the law is pedantic when it comes to wording.

[pandaman]

It's not quite enough for it just to be the truth either, you also have to be able to show that it is in the publics best interest that the information be released.

While most of these threads on 'this shop screwed me over' are probably not libel (slander is actualy verbal, anything defamatory in written form is libel), the forum admin really don't want to be dragged into court to prove that it isn't. I personally think the whole slander/libel legislation is a crock of shit, but unfortunately the courts take it very seriously.

[Troy711]

thread not about cars, moved to pub

[pro_gmh]

About slander, i agree with what Hairy Eater said, but doesnt it also matter what context you said it in?

is defremation the same thing?

[vlv8vic]

I'm sure that slander isn't slander if it's the truth.... i'm very sure about this ... but i may be corrected .... any thoughts on this subject?

if this is a sook thread because i closed a thread where you slandered a company then you need to take this up with the admin/moderation team. though it appears most people agree with the way i saw it (which is influenced by a slight knowledge of the law).

[pandaman]

About slander, i agree with what Hairy Eater said, but doesnt it also matter what context you said it in?

is defremation the same thing?

Slander and libel are two types of defamation. Slander is verbal, libel is written or recorded in some way. So yes "defremation" is the same thing.

[pandaman]

if this is a sook thread because i closed a thread where you slandered a company then you need to take this up with the admin/moderation team. though it appears most people agree with the way i saw it (which is influenced by a slight knowledge of the law).

Obviously not a full and complete knowledge of the law, because it was not in fact slander, it was alleged libel.

[Hairy Eater]

viv8vic .... when was the last time you heard of any slander or libel case in court .... this was NOT a sook thread... it's a subject that i wanted to see other people's views about .....

[vlv8vic]

Obviously not a full and complete knowledge of the law, because it was not in fact slander, it was alleged libel.

yep. thought the word 'slight' might have summed that up....
but then again.....

[vlv8vic]

viv8vic .... when was the last time you heard of any slander or libel case in court .... this was NOT a sook thread... it's a subject that i wanted to see other people's views about .....

when my friend took his ex's mother to court because she labelled him a "sex predator" and he lost his job etc because of her foul mouth.

But since it isnt a retalliation to the thread i closed where you slandered a company then we dont have a problem!

[Hairy Eater]

viv8vic ... do you realise that maybe you are slandering me by saying "you slandered a company"......

[gopher]

if a company hasn't delivered the service they promised

i don't see a problem with bagging them at every opportunity

[Patrio7]

it is my own express opinion that sometimes subjects such as these are taken, perhaps, a little too seriously.

it is my personall opinion that if words themselves could simply be shrugged off it would stop all the stuff that gets around.

[vlv8vic]

viv8vic ... do you realise that maybe you are slandering me by saying "you slandered a company"......

No, certainly not. i am not grossly generalising a company with loose allegations. i am quoting something you wrote on this site which is accessible to all, therefore am not sledging, slandering or defaming your charactor.

if i called you a fruitloop it would be namecalling.
if i claimed you were a fruitloop because you once slept with a koala and coulnt prove you did it, then yes, i guess that would be some form of defamation.

[vlv8vic]

it is my own express opinion that sometimes subjects such as these are taken, perhaps, a little too seriously.

it is my personall opinion that if words themselves could simply be shrugged off it would stop all the stuff that gets around.

now that is something i agree with, and said in not so few words in the thread in question.

[tr3nt]

Before I get all technical on your asses.. you guys have a go at me for bitching!!?

Now.. where was I.
Slander: words falsely spoken that damage the reputation of another 2: an abusive attack on a person's character or good name
eg: buisness; "ABC & CO are real dodgy, they damaged my item"
eg: personal; "Joshua is a shithead, cause he didn't pay me back my $3,000"

Libel: defamation by written or printed words, pictures, or in any form other than by spoken words or gestures.
eg: buisness/personal - writing on a form of paper either of those two examples!

Defamation: the act of defaming; false or unjustified injury of the good reputation of another, as by slander or libel; calumny: She sued the magazine for defamation of character.

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