Bull Bar Ban

[CHANDLC]

Just wondering what peoples thoughts were on this, I have a bull bar and i recon its great but I Know other people have other opinions which is fine but to ban them because if someone hits someone walking across the road it can injure them more or kill them is a bit far fetched, what if a car with out a bull bar hits a person and that person comes threw the windscreen, causeing you to go out of control into a crowded foot path killing say 5 or more people, it could easiely happen. But in saying that I'm not saying every car should have a bull bar but why ban them if someone walks out in front of a car with or with out a bull bar their going to get hurt, or worse.

[pandaman]

A mate of mine has a sticker that says: "A bullbar in the bush is worth more than a pedestrian in the city" Pretty much sums up my feelings on the matter. Out here away from the city they're essential, y'all cityfolk need to understand that. :-)

[Patrio7]

heck i think it'd be cheaper if i smacked my flexable aluminum into the back of a ricer than if i let my front end explode on contact

i love my roobar, it makes a good seat, reduces my "hoon" image, stops snobby chicks from liking my car because its not cool enough for them ( if my car isnt cool enough then i wont be by a mile! )

i like the style, it gives me an AWESOME length guage so now i can confidently park and turn places without worrying about scraping anything

im against the ban, i mean if theyre gonna ban bull bars in the city then they should ban cars which exceed a certain ride height ( dont want peds going under and splatting their head on the road backward do we? ) and also 4x4's that meet certain specs ( tire size, suspension height etc, i.e. the really jacked up ones )

i mean if i was walking, i would rather go over a ricer than under a 4x4.

[sircruisealotVS]

lol, look at that hunk of metal on the front of your car though chandlc. you could demolish a small building with that! imagine what it would do to a person.
i can see this issue from both sides of the fence though, on one side it can be potentially fatal for anyone struck by a car with a bull bar (potentiallly fatal..more so than a car without)..on the otherside its very likely your going to get injured yourself (not to mention absolutely total your car) if you run into something while driving around in the sticks (ie, a roo).
its a bit of a toughy...

[CHANDLC]

As you can problerly tell I come from out west (Hughenden & Cloncurry) and still do alot of traveling out that way, we done a trip to Toowoomba threw Emarald a couple of weeks ago and if it wasent for my bull bar I wouldn't have a car, but at the same time we werent locking the wheels up or swerving erratically neither which makes it a safer trip. Another sticker I've seen is.... Don't Ban Bull Bars Ban Stupid Pedestrians.........

[Patrio7]

YES! ban stupid peds!

as for the wheel locking thing, yep ive done that a couple of times, which is why i learnt that it is wise to keep at or just below the speed limits especially in thick suburbia.

personally as far as i see copping a bullbar waist down is the same as copping a bumper knee down, one way or another its gonna hurt like hell and odds are the peds face will end up in the same spot ( bonnet / windscreen )

mine is, again, a light slightly flexible roobar, and in all honesty if i were to hit a roo it would make more noise but still bend pretty badly.

oh thats a point, does anyone have one of those abs plastic "bumber replacement" roobars? i wonder how they would fare in a bingle.

but again, i dont feel that bullbars are any more or less dangerous than say a VS with a v8 supercar kit on it.

[CHANDLC]

YES! ban stupid peds!

but again, i dont feel that bullbars are any more or less dangerous than say a VS with a v8 supercar kit on it.

Depending on the driver I agree

[sircruisealotVS]

the whole deal with why bull bars are supposedly more dangerous is this. if you got hit (lets say in the leg) by a car without a bull bar, you might break or fracture the bone, roll over the bonnet and come to rest on (or through?) the windscreen. ending up with scratches, bruises, maybe a broken bone or two, etc..
but if you got hit by a bull bar, your bone isnt going to break...it will shatter. and there will be no rolling over the bonnet slowing down and absorbing the impact afterwards, you'll either go under the wheels, or get thrown.
a much more serious and potentially fatal situation, so thats where these people trying to ban them are coming from.

[CHANDLC]

I see it from that side but like I said in the first post (what if a car with out a bull bar hits a person and that person comes threw the windscreen, causeing you to go out of control into a crowded foot path killing say 5 or more people) I say every one to them self, but if I choose to have one I should be allowed to, I know your not saying I shouldn't have one, I just get the shits with all these stupid laws because of stupid people.

[minux]

They should be allowed int he worlds of rednecks(like where your from) but in a town whee there is alot of pedestrians they should be banned, they are not needed in town like most of these morons use them.

[CHANDLC]

But what about people like me that live in a city but drive out west alot.

[BnSuter]

I love the Bull Bar idea, But i couldn't compensate how much wind resitance they have so i mounted my spottys off a nudge bar.

[VZ-Rob]

....... "A bullbar in the bush is worth more than a pedestrian in the city" .......... :-)

Yep! there designed to eradicate stupid people off roads in cities

[CHANDLC]

yer they do cause a bit of wind resitance

[Dylan VT]

A bullbar is something that the driver/owner of the car chooses to have on their car.
I think that instead of banning them on cars, they should spend money on increasing pedestrian awareness. If they ban bullbars on cars, there are still going to be pedestrians that get hit by cars anyway, so why not try to just eradicate the whole issue by trying to make people more aware of cars on the road.

[gopher]

i think ridiculously oversized bullbars on cars should be banned

[DavidPartay]

I'm leaning towards banning stupid pedestrians moreso than banning bullbars.

If people can't think for themselves (How hard is it to see a car coming?) then they probably deserve to get hit...

[vt1538]

If they didnt make cars so damn quiet these days you wouldnt need a bullbar. Loud pipes save lives.
I remember a few years ago smacking a cow in my bullbar equipped Patrol & I know if it wasnt there I would of been stuck in the middle of nowhere for quite a while.
However in the city I believe bullbars are on there for the wank factor & nothing else. If you dont need it, dont have it.
As for spending money on awareness for pedestrians, what a crock. You are taught from the time you can walk to look both ways at the road. If it hasnt sunk in by the time you are in high school it never will.

[minux]

But what about people like me that live in a city but drive out west alot.

take it on and off

[calais_304]

As basciially all my family comes from out west i know where your comming from, you bloody NEED them out there, anyone here ever hit a roo (not a wallaby) in a commo? instant right off! hit a roo in a hilux with a decent bullbar - roo gets totaled and you drive off merrily

honestly what does it matter in the city if you got a bullbar or not? if you run out onto the road and get hit it's your own bloody fault! no matter how much damage it's going to do to you, you still shouldn't of run out onto the bloody road no excuses your the only one who puts the foot forward. its just like saying they can't have vans and some 4x4 (couriers) in the city cuz they will do more damage then an excel it's bloody stupid.

bullbars should not be banned if people are stupid enough to step infront of a car they get what they deserve.

why the hell protect the stupid? there not going to do anything good for society or make the world a better place, stuff em

[calais_304]

take it on and off

welding kinda defeats that purpose, and if you can it's not a real bullbar

[ashzv6]

personally i think they should ban them in the city.
im talkin bout the bigger citys not country towns.
that way every1 will be happy.

[minux]

welding kinda defeats that purpose, and if you can it's not a real bullbar

Well then they should have to adhere to the same rules Heavy vehicles do.

[253@7k]

personally i think they should ban them in the city.
im talkin bout the bigger citys not country towns.
that way every1 will be happy.

I disagree, they (if anything at all) should be banned for vechiles licenced in major cities, im sure as hell not taking my bullbar off everytime I go to perth. They are no more dangerous than a car, mothers just need to blame something other than themselves for their kids getting killed when they push them out onto the roads without thinking. Oh dear, my kids dead. It wasnt my fault i was thinking more about how much money i can bilk out of my husband rathre than relaising that ive just pushed my kid into the oncoming 4wd, it was that damn bullbars fault! Its bullshit.

[Christina]

i dislike bullbars, they are hideous and can cause more damage than without having one, a bullbar hit my dad head on once, ripped his whole front bumper off.... keep them for the bush.