Modern Muslims

[Johnsy]

Two words... who cares !

[calais_304]

So much for free speech...And when I do put my view across, people think I am Bible bashing. It's damn free speech like everyone else

didn't you know there's no such thing as free speech anymore im serious it's pathetic.

btw the muslim terrorists (and USA gov) are the only ones that i know of that are going around terrorising OTHER countries and placing threats on them and using religion as an excuse. Most other countrys are decent enough to keep to them selves or keep fighting the same ppl they've been fighting for centries(IRA).

the way i see it, religion is fast becoming very dangerous in the fact the people are being brainwashed and the religion it self is not being interperted right or being preached correctly either way it's gone to shit.

[vt_ss_5l]

I Like Your Wheels ? Nice Ride Man

[J_D]

Two words... who cares !

And thats the reason the world is going to sh*t.

[padrickz88]

I didnt say they were wrong or right, i am saying what has been studied and what its true purpose is, not what someone has interprated. The whole initial post is all about bad interpratation.
In alot of societies women are regarded as high as men, we do not have a female PM because no one has run that people have wanted to vote for, no other reason.
Anyway, keep your sarcasm going, it shows how you cannot have a discussion about anything you cannot agree with.

and i didnt say you said they were wrong, just the way your talking (maybe im reading it wrong) it sounds like no matter what people say you are going to correct them, so why bother? but thats how it sounds atm, sounds like you have read the quaren once and know it all..... just saying how it seems....
and as for "we do not have a female PM because no one has run that people have wanted to vote for, no other reason" thats exactly what i mean, alot of people dont believe a woman can do a job that a man can.... and noone can deny that people think like that, im not saying you think like that, and i dont think like that but people do.... because woman are usually thort of as lower then men, even though no matter how much people say "no matter what the gender, everyone is equal" its not the case to all people....
and as for the sarcasm, that was because you obviously cant see other people's views, look at christina, you dont like her post and u ask why is she still here? THEN continued with it... so really who is the one who cant have a proper discussion? anyways thats all ive got, i cbf with all the constantly long replys so ill stay with the little ones if i can...

[craigvk]

There are a lot of things I'd like to debate out Islam, but I'd likely get kicked off this forum being slammed a racist and discriminating swine which I'm not.

[gopher]

Seems my post got deleted. Bit unfair seeing I only brought up Christianity simply because I was replying to Minux's post which had comments about Christianity in it!!

mine got deleted also

you're only allowed a say if it agrees with what the mods believe in it seems

[Sorak]

Thank you Minux for a good and thought provoking post. I have enjoyed reading most of this debate. However I find it a shame that so many people seem to forget the most important thing we are taught in school "READ THE QUESTION... TWICE"

[craigvk]

didn't you know there's no such thing as free speech anymore im serious it's pathetic.

btw the muslim terrorists (and USA gov) are the only ones that i know of that are going around terrorising OTHER countries and placing threats on them and using religion as an excuse. Most other countrys are decent enough to keep to them selves or keep fighting the same ppl they've been fighting for centries(IRA).

the way i see it, religion is fast becoming very dangerous in the fact the people are being brainwashed and the religion it self is not being interperted right or being preached correctly either way it's gone to shit.

Extremist Islamic's are using their (so called) religion as a body guard. Basically using it as an excuse for their actions. It's like me getting my rifle and blowing someones head off because it was my religion. It's an excuse without reason. As far as I see it, Islam isn't a religion to learn about going about blowing people up. It does have a lot of strong and harsh standards to follow though.

[Julie]

mine got deleted also

you're only allowed a say if it agrees with what the mods believe in it seems

that is utter bs, your post was deleted because it quoted some highly offensive racist comments that the original poster is now banned over. If I was to delete everyones posts that I disgree with here it would only be mine and Minux' and a handful of other posts left

[calais_304]

and as for "we do not have a female PM because no one has run that people have wanted to vote for, no other reason" thats exactly what i mean, alot of people dont believe a woman can do a job that a man can.... and noone can deny that people think like that, im not saying you think like that, and i dont think like that but people do....

did you know N.Z's PM is female...

[Christina]

i had my opinion on banning religious threads deleted.
im not offended or ashamed of religious posts i just think it causes too much controversy.

if i could give you more feedback, i would slim. but it appears i have given you too much.

this thread was closed before.. someone reopened it

[craigvk]

mine got deleted also

you're only allowed a say if it agrees with what the mods believe in it seems

Bit unfortuneate. I would kindly ask that the mods please give a bit of backbone. Like I have said before, in the past year I haven't seen anyone try and start wars in threads I have contributed in. Sure, things get heated, but going around deleting threads is a bit unfair.

Cheers and I know you are reading this.

[gopher]

that is utter bs, your post was deleted because it quoted some highly offensive racist comments that the original poster is now banned over. If I was to delete everyones posts that I disgree with here it would only be mine and Minux' and a handful of other posts left

in this sort of debate there are always going to be highly offensive racist comments.
it's unavoidable and it's peoples personal opinions

therefore the whole thread should be deleted
not just the comments that you find offensive

[J_D]

did you know N.Z's PM is female...

List of all countries that have had a female prime minister.


http://www.terra.es/personal2/monolith/00women3.htm

[minux]

Minux, could you PLEASE do me a favour? Unlikely.. but anyway.

What I want you to say to this lady is. "How do you feel being part of a religion that puts in place a man called Mohammed in the place of the Savior Jesus Christ?'
What an insult.

To get my point across, Muslims state that Jesus Christ was simply another dude walking the streets and had no impact on the times. Yeah ok. So much for all the miracles he did. And as for death, this Mohammed dude rotted away, whilst Jesus Christ rose again.

Oh my god, you are the biggest bible pusher i have ever seen post here, the only thing that is right is what you believe, yeah we all know that, personally i could not give 2 shits what you believe, nor what this woman believes, i just wanted to question what her belief was. As far as im concerned you both have too little faith in yourself, so you believe in something that can't be proven so then you can never be let down.

[minux]

what have you got against me now? so you find the need to interfere with people's religion and now you wanna harass me?

i didn't agree at first, but that doesn't mean i can't change my mind.


now , as i was going to say.

the bible is split in 2, old and new testament, god had strict rules in the old testament, but the new rectified alot of that, now i don't know if the Koran is the same, however, but if it is, muslims could interpret that much to like how a "fundamentalist" christian might interperet the old testament into today's society. (truechristian.com - classic example) joke site or not

just saying.. it could work vice versa too

just aslong as religion has no power over law making, ever, were all sweet

lol, i am not interfering with anyones religion, i ams imply asking questions, then researching the answers to the best of my ability, more than i can say for alot of people here. Again, your lack of reading skills completly missed my intent on my first post.

[minux]

Bit unfortuneate. I would kindly ask that the mods please give a bit of backbone. Like I have said before, in the past year I haven't seen anyone try and start wars in threads I have contributed in. Sure, things get heated, but going around deleting threads is a bit unfair.

Cheers and I know you are reading this.

things were deleted because they were off topic, just liek your posts regarding your god is the right god and no one elses is.

[padrickz88]

List of all countries that have had a female prime minister.


http://www.terra.es/personal2/monolith/00women3.htm

not alot when its compared to how many male prime ministers there have been tru?:P

[craigvk]

things were deleted because they were off topic, just liek your posts regarding your god is the right god and no one elses is.

Nah buddy, I am sure things were deleted because you pushed it on the mod(s). Amazing how you are off the chart in rep points. Everyone seems to love you!

[minux]

Nah buddy, I am sure things were deleted because you pused it on the mod(s). Amazing how you are off the chart in rep points. Everyone seems to love you!

When you have 350 rep points, yours will be the same. Yes, i pm'd darren and asked the shit to be trimmed, i have also requested to have it closed, simply because people liek yourself troll it trying to claim what is right and what is wrong.

[Christina]

things were deleted because they were off topic, just liek your posts regarding your god is the right god and no one elses is.

Converted, recently? I think it would be a good idea for you.

[craigvk]

Oh my god, you are the biggest bible pusher i have ever seen post here

And you are the BIGGEST anti-religious dude on the entire forum. Yet, you bring up Islam.

[Julie]

This thread has gone so far off topic I can hardly remember what the topic was, its been cleaned a few times and everyone still insists on polluting it with crap so I'm going to be selfish here and lighten the load of us mods/admin and close this thread now.