Sick and Tired!!!!

[MikesVT]

I am so sick and tired of A Current Affair and Today Tonight showing stories which are so obviously and blatently RACIST against certain minority groups, ESPECIALLY muslims. I am so fricken sick of it.

Tonight on ACA they had a story about 'ethnic teens' posting songs of theirs on the internet preaching hate and what not. Sure, some of the lyrics were pretty full on. But how bout we go and look at the lyrics of someone like EMINEM... I'm SURE that not everything he sings about he's done or intends to do... What about all these Rap songs and heavy metal and what not. I'm sure they dont sing about bunny rabbits playing in the sunshine and picking flowers and being all happy and getting along!

They say how things like these teens posting songs like that promotes hate, and further seperates cultures... WELL HOW BOUT THAT? That just makes me so angry. THEY (ACA/Today Tonight) are the ones stirring up hate!

I fricken hate it! And I hate how "NEWS" now days can be about a celebrity diet, or a celebrity who MIGHT be on drugs or whatever else. FFS! Wanna fix some of societies problems? Take these shit stirring shows off air, or make them about NEWS and not RATING!

[minux]

The difference between Eminem and these morons is that there isn't racism to the lyrics and his lyrics are taken as a laugh. If i released any song like the ones shown on that story i'd be charged with hate crimes.

I fail to see how ACA are stirring hate, by publicising this shit on national TV they are showing how pathetic some people can be. What these stories do is make int his case the islamic community take action within their own group, event he islamic council guy was appalled to see these lyrics which is what we need, the quicker the leaders of these islamic groups come down on these people the quicker the media will push away from these childish hate groups.

[MikesVT]

That is true, I have noticed that they do have islamic leaders and leaders of other groups on that make quite clear that they do not accept such acts and what not. The thing is, they have MANY more of these stories than they do about an Australian beating up some guy in a pub or whatever.

I do see what your sayin though minux and you do have a point but I just really dont like these shows because they are so one sided and so biased. I'd just like to think that in a democracy we can see both sides of a story and decide what we think of it ourselves, and not have others opinions shoved into our heads, whether it be obviously of subconsciously...

Its just been a hate of these shows building up for a long time

[redcv6]

hey guys.
im an australian with a full italian background, i am not ashamed of beeing an italian australian, afterall i was born in australia so i am just as australian as everybody else. i hate seeing things and hearing things like that, if they hate the country and its people so much, then just leave, no ones stopping you, and i garentee, i would be the first one to kick you out of the country. unfortunately i feel that although italians have not been involved in any of these hate riots, or videos of gangs, i still feel some people include italians in with the lebaneese and muslims, we are not, totally different. its like saying australians and new zealands are the same. this may not seem a big issue to alot of people, but when i see it, i generally feel sickened.
Kind regards Johnny
Also i realise that i have strayed from the topic, sorry

[hingo1983]

The thing is, they have MANY more of these stories than they do about an Australian beating up some guy in a pub or whatever.

Thats because thats the Australian thing to do. Better than shooting someone in a drive-by or raping women which is what you get in some of the dodgy "ethnic" suburbs in Sydney. Aussies are known to to fight something out and be done with it where as other cultures tend to hold grudges and string it out with gang wars. All this muslim stuff is relatively new to Australia and thats why it makes headlines. Pub brawls are old hat.

[Christina]

The difference between Eminem and these morons is that there isn't racism to the lyrics and his lyrics are taken as a laugh. If i released any song like the ones shown on that story i'd be charged with hate crimes.

I fail to see how ACA are stirring hate, by publicising this shit on national TV they are showing how pathetic some people can be. What these stories do is make int his case the islamic community take action within their own group, event he islamic council guy was appalled to see these lyrics which is what we need, the quicker the leaders of these islamic groups come down on these people the quicker the media will push away from these childish hate groups.

agreed...

and on the subject, i get asked what "natio" i am at school alot... hmmmmm seems to be the new thing.
"hey what natio are you?" "what natio is your family?" and stuff.... why do you need to know?
i don't think they are being racist, simply bringing it to attention.

[Julie]

Change the channel because its here to stay, like it or lump it

[MikesVT]

Julie, problem is its that or Neighbours... I'd rather get angry about something that has even the tiniest amount of relevance

And wogstar6, I'm full Italian blood as well (siciliano/napolitano) so I get all the stereotypes I don't mind it though because the only stereo types I get are the good ones or the ones from the movies

[Mr Squishi]

Try an Austar box. They have a channel dedicated to the Simpsons and the WWE.

but it is stupid how the media tries to stir up shit all the time, or how a baby falling over while playing makes the front page in the newspaper two days in a row. (bloody princess mary's kid, I mean, who really cares?)

[KingDiamond]

Get Foxtel/Austar which ever applies to you.

Edit:

^Damn, you beat me :/

[padrickz88]

I am so sick and tired of A Current Affair and Today Tonight showing stories which are so obviously and blatently RACIST against certain minority groups, ESPECIALLY muslims. I am so fricken sick of it.

Man thats so true, mainly muslims and its obvious, no wonder alot of people dont like muslims, because of shows like this showing bad people who happen to be muslim...

The difference between Eminem and these morons is that there isn't racism to the lyrics and his lyrics are taken as a laugh. If i released any song like the ones shown on that story i'd be charged with hate crimes.

I think eminem has made a song where he was bagging black people and he got told they wouldnt allow it to release and it was floating around on the internet...... and i remember when he was coming to australia for a concert, little johnny howard and alot of other people wernt laughing at his lyrics and were trying to avoid him getting a isa to come into aus.... so his lyrics aint a laugh to everyone...

Thats because thats the Australian thing to do. Better than shooting someone in a drive-by or raping women which is what you get in some of the dodgy "ethnic" suburbs in Sydney. Aussies are known to to fight something out and be done with it where as other cultures tend to hold grudges and string it out with gang wars. All this muslim stuff is relatively new to Australia and thats why it makes headlines. Pub brawls are old hat.

simply, rape and shootings happen in all states, not just nsw.. and not only by lebs(im assuming your talkin about them because of the whole with the leb teens raping that chick) or muslims in general...


pretty much bullsh*t, there always going to single out people, and the broadcaster is who chooses the storys not the reader, and i remember seeing it on a documentary that they done on the media, well there is one guy in america and he owns alot of the media and there was a son of a guy who died in 911.. and he was saying about his helping the relitives of the victims of 911 and then he said something the guy interviewing him didnt like so he told the people to cut the kids mic off just so he could blast him..... media has control to change people's minds and fill it with bs, always has and always will aslong as one person believes it

[adam69]

What about the little muslim ****ers that spat,burned and pissed on the bible?I want to know that these idiots are out there, and what they are doing.If i have to watch these show to learn this then so be it.

[andyman]

the one thing i hate about aca and today tonight is that they always have the same stories, i mean you watch today tonight then flick it over to aca and watch the same crap again, that bugs me about it

[drewins]

It was pretty bad they were rapping about killing australians. KILLING AUSTRALIANS! Arent they supposed to be Australians? WTF. They live on Australia Street.

How can you complain about Current Affairs?

[Doubleshadow]

The news media will only be as objective as we let them. When we hold grudges against groups, and many of us hold grudges against muslims because of the media, the media reinforces those grudges cause those sentiments raises ratings. You should think for a while, for instance, when a muslim person gives his life for his cause, he is a terrorist. When someone from the other side dies for their cause, they are a patriot. And even if most of us agree that we should not be in Iraq, the media still portray the Iraquis as idiots that cannot control their own country.

Many muslims, even those living in western countries, see countries like America, Australia and Britain as waging war on muslims. At least, we are occupying Iraq and Afganistan and for all we know, Bin Laden probably moved to Mars. What is most ironic, even though the leadership of the government is supporting the war, most of the people are against it. Muslims have a lot to be angry about. For years we have been supporting Israeli's apartheid-like system. But hold on a minute, before you go slapping me around because this time I am not simply trying to beat us down. I have a solution suggestion.

I beleive most people here are angry about the injustices and so we should speak up. I am not saying to support the removal of Isreal or anything like that, but we need to say something is wrong when it is wrong. No matter who does it. They were wrong to blow up the World Trade Center, but we were wrong to take the Palestinian lands too. When we start to speak out, then everyday muslims will begin to understand that we are a just people, even though some of our governmental leaders have their head stuck up their asses. And by all means, when the media screw up, we need to boycott them too. Julie is right, if you perceive racist or wrong reporting...turn off the damn tv, or watch cartoons. At least with the cartoons, you will know the facts were made up....but for heaven's sake, dont get in this muslim, non-muslim thing. That is what the media wants us to do. When we start reacting emotionally because some on the other side is doing it, we lose the battle before it starts. If we do not reason this thing out....then who will? Dammit people, if just reasoning isn't coming from the top, then lets start pushing it from the bottom. We shout loud enough, somebody has to listen....eventually.

[hingo1983]

You should think for a while, for instance, when a muslim person gives his life for his cause, he is a terrorist. When someone from the other side dies for their cause, they are a patriot.

So you think strapping yourself with bombs and running into a cafe and blowing up hundreds of innocent people justified because our allied soldiers are killed while fighting enemy militia? There is a vast difference mate, and what you said is one of the most ridiculous statements I have ever heard.

[Doubleshadow]

So you think strapping yourself with bombs and running into a cafe and blowing up hundreds of innocent people justified because our allied soldiers are killed while fighting enemy militia? There is a vast difference mate, and what you said is one of the most ridiculous statements I have ever heard.

That is exactly the condescending attitude I am talking about. You see the venom you placed on the person with the bomb strapped on him, although he is also giving his life for what he believes in. But you fail to mention that our noble soldiers are occupying a country and has killed innocent Iraquis. But no, that is different. Amazing what a point of view can do. You see ridiculous, I see hypocrisy.

[vt1538]

Our noble soldiers arent targetting the innocent civilians. The wanker with the dynamite overcoat is. There is a big difference.

[calais_304]

You see ridiculous, I see hypocrisy.

And i see a country where they can't even give up an extrimist for killing many thousands more.

[Doubleshadow]

And i see a country where they can't even give up an extrimist for killing many thousands more.

You are putting me in a position that I am not philosophically in agreement with. What I am saying is that we should call a spade a spade, no matter who does it. You go to great lengths to show that our soldiers are noble, and you label the opposing side in a dark shroud. You really believe that anyone in this conflict has a monopoly on right? I do not wish to digress into name calling, my goal is to see we all say something is wrong if it is wrong. Sure, there are extremists on the other side. I have yet to hear someone call George Bush an extremist or a terrorist. At the least, we can say that someone lied, because there is no weapons of mass destruction. This is what I am talking about. If we are gutsy enough to say there are wrong on the other side, lets have character to say there is wrong on our side too and drop the labels for both sides. Isn't that Socratic equality which we seek in the long run?

[calais_304]

You are putting me in a position that I am not philosophically in agreement with. What I am saying is that we should call a spade a spade, no matter who does it. You go to great lengths to show that our soldiers are noble, and you label the opposing side in a dark shroud. You really believe that anyone in this conflict has a monopoly on right? I do not wish to digress into name calling, my goal is to see we all say something is wrong if it is wrong. Sure, there are extremists on the other side. I have yet to hear someone call George Bush an extremist or a terrorist. At the least, we can say that someone lied, because there is no weapons of mass destruction. This is what I am talking about. If we are gutsy enough to say there are wrong on the other side, lets have character to say there is wrong on our side too and drop the labels for both sides. Isn't that Socratic equality which we seek in the long run?

ok i can never really make sence of what you say but this is what i gathered, YES george bush is an extrimist i thought that was a clear as him being incompetent, i believe our soldiers are nobal but they just get throwen in to fights that arn't theirs because of the US and because jonny doesn't have a spine and is always at george's beck and call, our soldiers don't have a choice we have to look after the bloody americans every time they get themselves in the shit, help where help is due i say.

i have always said it's wrong what america did, at the same time you had to expect a retaliation like that, bin laden destroyed alot of america, not just the towers but also the live of those affected, an invasion was going to happen no matter what but we didn't need to be dragged into it.

but what pisses me off the most is that their own country couldn't even give the man up, i still believe the people and government had a lot to do with him not being found.

anyway i've gone way off topic again so i'll leave it at that

[Doubleshadow]

Our noble soldiers arent targetting the innocent civilians. The wanker with the dynamite overcoat is. There is a big difference.

You may not have realized, I would therefore be happy to enlighten you, our noble soldiers have targeted and bombed civilian targets in Iraq. Furthermore, we supported Israel in the war with Lebanon, where 99% of the Lebanese killed were civilians. Infact, if any Hezbolah people died, it probably was from the common cold.

[hingo1983]

Our noble soldiers arent targetting the innocent civilians. The wanker with the dynamite overcoat is. There is a big difference.

Couldn't have said it better myself

[Doubleshadow]

ok i can never really make sence of what you say but this is what i gathered, YES george bush is an extrimist i thought that was a clear as him being incompetent, i believe our soldiers are nobal but they just get throwen in to fights that arn't theirs because of the US and because jonny doesn't have a spine and is always at george's beck and call, our soldiers don't have a choice we have to look after the bloody americans every time they get themselves in the shit, help where help is due i say.

i have always said it's wrong what america did, at the same time you had to expect a retaliation like that, bin laden destroyed alot of america, not just the towers but also the live of those affected, an invasion was going to happen no matter what but we didn't need to be dragged into it.

but what pisses me off the most is that their own country couldn't even give the man up, i still believe the people and government had a lot to do with him not being found.

anyway i've gone way off topic again so i'll leave it at that

Your point is well taken that our soldiers are noble, but it is not their fault. You must remember however, from the ground, it is hard to differentiate. Although it is the government that is running the war, it is the soldiers that does the deed.

I fail to see why the Arab countries should give up Bin Laden to the US, when for the most part, the US has not been just with the Arabs. Most Arabs believe that the US and a lot of other western democracies are only interested in oil. And they see Bush and Howard as criminals who invaded Iraq under false auspicies, and never apologized. No one is giving up Bush and Howard to justice, so why should they give up Bin Laden?

[hingo1983]

You may not have realized, I would therefore be happy to enlighten you, our noble soldiers have targeted and bombed civilian targets in Iraq. Furthermore, we supported Israel in the war with Lebanon, where 99% of the Lebanese killed were civilians. Infact, if any Hezbolah people died, it probably was from the common cold.

The difference is, we didn't support Israel with our troops. You can't blame our troops for the recklessness of other countries. All we did was help get people out of the war zone. If you think that is promoting killing innocent civilians, then you are a bigger wanker than I orginally thought.