Up Coming VIC P Plate Restrictions - People Ain't Gonna Be Happy

[hakhawk]

ok, was reading a thread on another forum about the p plate restrictions, someone was asking about whether these laws apply to current p platers who already own a car that comes under the ban list.

most people assumed that it would apply to anyone who becomes a p plater after july 7th i think it is, or someone who wants to buy a v8, super6, turbo, etc.

but, someone posted this a couple hours ago

After a lengthy phone call to VIC ROADS I have discovered that this regulation applies to all probationary license holders as of 1st of July 2007, regardless of when the license was issued.
VIC ROADS also informed me that a request in writting to the policy department of vic roads is the only option for any probationary driver to be exempt.
Basically this means that all P plate drivers will either have to sell or not drive their car if it is supercharged, turbocharged or have 8 or more cylinders as of 1st of July 2007.

Sorry for the bad news guys.

this is going to upset a LOT of people, people already owning these cars should NOT have to sell their car or buy a second car because theyve introduced new laws, its just not parctical for most p platers.

now, i dont own a car that i wont be allowed to drive, but was going to be working a n/a v6 later this year, but now im not so sure, seeing as its a 3 point loss for driving a banned vehicle(my motor will most likely come under "modified for more performance")

peoples thoughts??


:: edit :: shaggerz jsut had a look and QLD is the same, ALL p platers are banned from them!!

[cruzncommo]

they can go get F****D im blowing my commy wether those c***s like it or not. im not selling MY pride and joy for their sick intentions.

[Infus10n]

If this is so i feel sorry for you vic bunch, thats ridiculous and completely unfair. Its just not practical for every p-plater to sell their car if its on the ban list. People will loose money and it can significantly effect their lives in a huge way.

I dont beleive they are allowed to do this but perhaps they can. who knows... im sure when 1st july comes closer more information will be disclosed for the p-plater community. It seems not even vic roads know as it was a "lengthy phone call".

[sircruisealotVS]

yeah, i think thats a bit rough if its true. anyone already owning a car that they will become restricted from driving is put between a rock and a hard place. its either sell their car (and the market for that type of car is probably decreased by the P plate restrictions) or garage it untill they're legally allowed to drive it again once off their P's.
its a pretty harsh thing to do, most people on their P's are young and have little money to go selling their biggest asset (their car) and probably loosing out on money from the whole deal.
all i can say is im glad im on an open licence and free from all the P plater crap, qld isnt as bad as vic with the laws at the moment, but i can see it happening soon.
i know it sounds a bit wrong, but it will be interesting to see if these laws make a difference, you can still kill yourself in a mitsubishi colt.

[Wagon_Wheel]

WHAT?! Thats a load of BS man, ppl should NOT have to sell there cars, thats absolute crap.

but was going to be working a n/a v6 later this year, but now im not so sure, seeing as its a 3 point loss for driving a banned vehicle(my motor will most likely come under "modified for more performance")

Are you saying you cant even mod a standard v6? what do you think would count as performance mods?
You think they would sting you for exhaust, CAI, filters and stuff like that? or only heavy work?

I cant believe that crap

[Marco-EFIVL]

To hell with them, to bloody hell with them and all those bureaucratic fat-cats!

[hakhawk]

would have to be heavy engine work, stinging you on petty things like that would just be revenue raising(which might happen)

i'll be rebuilding the motor with a lot of work done, so it will be "modified"

[Wagon_Wheel]

Yeah, how would they really tell though, like if u got a cam or head work done or anything? My guess is that they will just ping all p platers with an exhaust cause they prob wont know if its hot or not, just cause its noisy

[shaggerz]

I am reading their little plan on the QLD Transport site and they are saying the same applies for QLD. but are STILL not clear whether it is for existing or only new license holders... I will phone them and ask in a sec...

[hakhawk]

infusion, turns out qld is gonna be the same, and they better let p platers know with a reasonable amount of time if this is to be the case, as a car cant always be sold at the drop of a hat.

[cruzncommo]

ive already decided if they want me to get rid of my car, F**K em. ill drive it round with dodge plates and run from them if i have too. this is just TOO far.

[calais_cruzin]

Well that sucks, i can see a hell of alot of ppl getting the sh|ts with that.

Ino i wouldnt sell my car if i had to, id rather risk the points then go get a lil shoe box n putting around with a led tip woooohoooo.

[hakhawk]

the old stocko v6 will be safe, but do any decent work to the motor or slap[ on a sc or turbo and be prepared to get in trouble.

[shaggerz]

http://www.transport.qld.gov.au/Home...Young_drivers/

Queenslanders have a read through that info... I skimmed it before but missed the crucial bit.

Q. What if I obtain my provisional license before the changes are implemented?
A. If you already hold a valid provisional license before the changes are implemented, the high powered vehicle restrictions will not apply to you.

breathe easy lads...

[cruzncommo]

http://www.transport.qld.gov.au/Home...Young_drivers/

Queenslanders have a read through that info... I skimmed it before but missed the crucial bit.



breathe easy lads...

loves shaggerz <3 phew *sigh of relief*

[shaggerz]

loves shaggerz <3 phew *sigh of relief*

my heart leapt into my throat on hearing about these laws also as it would have meant that my partner would be unable to drive her car (toyota soarer) OR my car for about 2 months, and its her means of transport to get to work every day... looks like only the victorians have to worry though...

I SERIOUSLY doubt that they would apply these restrictions to ALL P platers even in VIC as it is terribly unfair to all those who have already owned their "high performance" car for some time and did not know these restrictions would apply to them... its quite possible that someone got muddled at the call centre... I'd suggest calling again... and again... and possibly trying to get hold of someone more important on the other end of the phone to find out for sure...

[matty88]

That sucks, but I'm planning to get a four banger (sorry guys...) or a 6cyl Commy, and mod it but keep it N/A

BTW I'm goin for my L's soon so yay to me

[ssmate]

i dout they will inforce this rule to the people who held there p's b4 this date
but i can tell u know, for me and im geussing about % 80 ?? of other p platers who drive 8's / mod 6's / turbos will not be selling my car for some ****ing stupid rule like that!
not only is this car my pride and joy and i worked my ass off to afford it . . .
i woould not get near the amount i have spent on it! and there would not be a very big market for these type of vechicals as someone said above!

done sooking thanks

[shaggerz]

That sucks, but I'm planning to get a four banger (sorry guys...) or a 6cyl Commy, and mod it but keep it N/A

BTW I'm goin for my L's soon so yay to me

apparently anything that deviates from factory is considered a modified engine and will not be legal.

[Patrio7]

move to WA? or NZ :P

[vt1538]

apparently anything that deviates from factory is considered a modified engine and will not be legal.

There are quite a few mods that can be put down to normal rebuilding practice. EG No officer they arent ported heads, They were very rusty & I had to clean them up.

[HoZy]

I wonder if a ecotec in vn, with extractors/zorst shaved heads... legal?? lol

[shaggerz]

actually i think its a little less strict than that... i exaggerated

I think its anything that normally requires a mod plate is not allowed

[Christina]

sounds like a bit of bull****, p platers on v8's etc will need to prove they have owned the car before the laws, if i'm not mistake.

[hakhawk]

thats pretty easy with a rego in your name, or a receipt of purchase which everyone that buys a car from anyone should get.