Australia's Pollution isues

drewins · #1 20-02-2007, 04:21 PM

I read today that Australia makes up for 0.08% of the worlds pollution. Quick everybody, run out and buy energy saving light bulbs before the world ends and its our fault!!!!!!

Dont get me wrong I am all for doing our bit for the environment, but I am sick of reading everyday in the paper about how the world is ending and everything that happens in the world (e.g. a windy day) is due to global warming. And then we get grilled for small things that we should be cleaning up in order to stop global warming. For example a law to have energy saving fluros mandatory? The government is gloating about this saying its a world first and that it is helping in the fight with global warming. I wonder how many percent our contributed world pollution will be after this law comes in? 0.079999999%?

Thoughts?

Spaced · #2 20-02-2007, 04:33 PM

Little Johnie is running scared and trying to come up with all these schemes cause Kevin Rudd is making a mess of him. I'm all for cutting green house gas emissions. Hell I'd even stick a filter on my car if they made one so I could reduce emissions. If everyone does something it will work. People shouldn't need a friggin law to do the right thing. I was looking at IKEA when my missus was shopping there and they had light bulbs that were brighter and used 10% of the power of a normal bulb, hell I'm all for it reduce my bills even better if it helps the environment.

BTW where is minux when you need someone to have a winge about the tree hugging hippies.

Not_An_Abba_Fan · #3 20-02-2007, 04:38 PM

Patience Grasshopper.

vztrt · #4 20-02-2007, 05:31 PM

We actually produce more emmissions per capita than anyone else in the world. Well thats what they keep saying.

Australia need to do something about the emmissions they produce because if that carbon tax comes into existance than who do you think will pay the extra cost.

MikesVT · #5 20-02-2007, 05:41 PM

Bah... Sure there's pollution, sure you can see its effects... but I think all this hype is for no reasno other than to put fear into the public, so that we (the public) change our habbits just because we're told to by a 'higher power'.

rant rant blah blah...

Don't throw your rubbish in the gutters... But surely we dont have to go changing the type of light bulbs we use...

Not_An_Abba_Fan · #6 20-02-2007, 06:04 PM

Without sounding like a tree hugging, Japanese whaleboat sinking, hemp wearing, dirty, smelly hippy. If we did nothing now then the next generation will surely have a worse environment to live with. SAVE THE WHALES! BLOW UP GEORGE BUSH! BURN ALL THE ABBA RECORDS! Oh, that would be adding to greenhouse gases wouldn't it......

drewins · #7 20-02-2007, 08:09 PM

But what I was getting at is we produce f**k all compared to the rest of the world. I want to know what percentage China produces. Im guessing 40%??? Then again I have no idea.

Marco-EFIVL · #8 20-02-2007, 08:41 PM

I think Johnny is right about Australia shouldn't agree to Kyoto untill it is either ratified or a more realistic and binding agreement is reached which includes the major industrial nations that are missing from Kyoto (USA, China, India ect). Fluro lights seem like a silly PR stunt, which like most policy related election stunts, it is. It does gather some merit, they last longer, they use far less power (meaning the existing power can be better managed/conserved/distributed) and in the end, they cost business and household less money in the long run. What is so bad about that?

May I add, fluro light bulbs alone aren't gonna save our arses from sh!t, but it is a positive first step. However much larger steps, and with greater frequency need to occur sooner rather than later if everyone is serious about fixing our own environmental mess.

Clean coal, Nuclear, Hydrogen technology, forest rehabilitation, water desalination/recycling and an internationally binding carbon trading/credit scheme will be the only way to fix this on an international level. However, I doubt the credibility and effectiveness of an international watchdog, by definition, the UN has failed on most fronts since Korea 1956...

minux · #9 20-02-2007, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Spaced

BTW where is minux when you need someone to have a winge about the tree hugging hippies.

lol, sorry just finished work bud damn i hate 16 hour days

Anyways, for what it will do for the environment, its hardly worth it. Besides, i like my bathroom heater globe my fridge, microwave and oven lights. No way known ia m forking out $6 a hit to save the earth for .000000000000000000000000000000000000001 of a second.
I can't have fluoru lights as they give me headaches fromt he constant flicker.

If Mr Howard wants to fix things maybe he should look at nuclear power and get rid of these massive coal power stations that do alot more damage then a few million light globes.

Goddamn hippies.

Tree cutter · #10 21-02-2007, 08:50 AM

Maybe we could put all our fat arsed politicians on treadmills to gererate electricity. That way the polly's would be doing something usefull for a change and we might be able to shut down some of the old technology power plants.

If the polly's had to sweat their guts out to produce electricity then i would put in bigger globes and turn all my lights on just to make it harder for them.

vlv8vic · #11 21-02-2007, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Tree cutter

Maybe we could put all our fat arsed politicians on treadmills to gererate electricity. That way the polly's would be doing something usefull for a change and we might be able to shut down some of the old technology power plants.

If the polly's had to sweat their guts out to produce electricity then i would put in bigger globes and turn all my lights on just to make it harder for them.

now that is something i would pay to see. hell, id even install i new lightbulb so they could run 80% slower if that kept them busy for longer.

Spaced · #12 21-02-2007, 10:39 AM

lol @ minux. I swear your agression could power this country. The thing is if Australia and America stop buying inefficent bulbs then China will stop making them. BTW I watched an inconvenient truth last week provides a good insight into what's happening. Even if you aint a tree hugging hippie it's worth a look. And you don't have to spend $6 a bulb for efficient lights. The thing is if you can cut the costs of electricity bill why not? Especially if it is cheap to do so?

Global warming can not be denied. I mean Australia is already getting Evironmentall displaced people because of this.

If I remember correctly America then Australia had the lowest fuel eficiency standards in the world. Even China has stricter standards than us. The biggest problem is people make too much money out of destorying the world to give it up now.

_Mukas_ · #13 21-02-2007, 11:53 AM

global warming is nowhere near as big an issue as many people are making it out to be. im not denying the fact that we are having an input as to the conditions of the earth but the earth has been changing since the dawn of time and you dont reckon that massive ball of flaming gas has anything to do with it...

they say the emissions are burning massive holes and having 'major impact'... heres an idea... how can we be having such a major impact if more than 2/3rds of the earth is covered by ocean... sure there is the isolated oil rigs, but put that into perspective... its a drop in the ocean (shocking pun, my bad)

anyone remember that big tsunami that hit asia... well the quake that created that pushed the world onto an axis 7cm different to the one it was one previous to the wave... that couldnt have anything to do with climate change could it?
thats all it is, climate change... a gradual and consistent change in the planets climate... heres an idea... deal with it, do your bit to save water and the environment and the weather will take care of itself... we cant exactly manipulate what the weather is going to do can we?