Supercharged Toyota Aurion

[stocky]

I was at the motor show yesterday and they had a display model of the supercharged engine going into the aurion. the charger itself looked very familar. is toyota using the eaton m90 on this engine?

[AirStrike]

I was at the motor show yesterday and they had a display model of the supercharged engine going into the aurion. the charger itself looked very familar. is toyota using the eaton m90 on this engine?

Sure are.............when will it be running in a car tho?? They had the identical engine there last year.

[stocky]

so their idea of "changing the big 6 game for good" is to use technology that holden was using over 10 years ago?

[AirStrike]

so there idea of "changing the big 6 game for good" is to use technology that holden was using over 10 years ago?

More or less

[AttaBoy]

I wouldn't mind putting THAT in my car!!!

[SweetWagon]

although holden never had the charger on a DOHC motor like the aurion, the heads breathe alot more and will give it more gains than what the l67 did. Would be good if Holden done something with the alloytec but i doubt it.

[andyman]

so their idea of "changing the big 6 game for good" is to use technology that holden was using over 10 years ago?

in what way has a supercharger evolutionised (?sp) it does what a supercharger does it charges more air into the engine so what if its 10 years old, the engines new

[stocky]

in what way has a supercharger evolutionised (?sp) it does what a supercharger does it charges more air into the engine so what if its 10 years old, the engines new

you must have missed the point. theyre using the EXACT SAME model charger

[James_yo7]

ARGH!! i missed the motor show

[knowledge_is_power]

In the latest news, taken from John Mellor's Goauto News

MITSUBISHI’S quest to transform its 380 sedan into a supercharged Ralliart-badged sports sedan may be hampered by the lack of stability control to harness its extra urge, but it seems Toyota cannot extract enough power from its direct rival, the force-fed Aurion TRD. Expected to appear in final production guise at the Melbourne International Motor Show ahead of a March release, the supercharged Aurion – the first salvo from the new Toyota Racing Development brand that was officially launched in Melbourne – has now been delayed until the third quarter of 2007. Instead of a production-ready version of the blown Aurion, Toyota showed a “nearproduction” development of the Aurion Sports Concept that debuted at last October’s Sydney show, alongside a concept of its second TRD model, the supercharged 4.0-litre HiLux TRD.

While the lack of stability control for its 380 donor car has created problems for Mitsubishi in its attempt to deliver a production version of the 230kW/442Nm TMR concept, the Aurion TRD’s delay appears to be due to the unexpected work required to lift performance by meaningful levels over the Aurion’s standard 200kW/336Nm 3.5-litre V6, which incorporates traction and stability control as standard. Traction control is optional on the base 380 and standard on the rest of the range, but stability control is not yet available for the 380, which is powered by a 175kW/343Nm 3.8-litre V6. The Ralliart version is alleged to accelerate to 100km/h in six seconds and to 400 metres in 14 seconds.

Toyota has publicly targeted 235kW for the Aurion TRD and Toyota spokesman Mike Breen told GoAuto last week: “As it turns out, the standard engine’s 200kW output is just about perfect, so it’s taking more work than expected to achieve the extra performance in terms of durability and reliability.” GoAuto has learned that attempts to extract enough power to better the TMR 380’s outputs, via an intercooled and supercharged version of the Aurion V6, have failed and that Toyota now hopes to become the first manufacturer to employ a new-generation twin-screw Eaton supercharger, which is not yet available in Australia, in its search for more power. “We’re going through what we call our first trial build stage at the moment and we’ll launch in the third quarter. But we’re very, very close,” said Mr Buttner on Friday. “We had some issues along the way and we wanted to make sure that we brought to market a vehicle that was 100 per cent ready and that will be a credit to the Toyota brand. “We’d rather put to market our best product at the most appropriate time.” Mr Buttner denied durability issues were
involved in the delay. “No. We just wanted to make sure that every component was ready. We have a number of suppliers, some of who are new to the Toyota camp. We’re working with them to ensure that every component on that car is 100 per cent before we go to market,” he said.

Should be intersting as it sounds like another power war, but this time in the 6's arena.

[Spaced]

Maybe we might get a supercharged factory alloytech. OMG we could only hope

[stocky]

Toyota now hopes to become the first manufacturer to employ a new-generation twin-screw Eaton supercharger, which is not yet available in Australia, in its search for more power.

ITS AN M90

[knowledge_is_power]

The motor on display at the car show had an Eaton M90 on it, and was the force feeder of choice until they couldn't get enough power from the combo so they have gone back to Eaton and asked for something else that will give them more power.

Sounds to me that in a bid to take sales from Holden and Ford they have extraced nearly every pony they could from their 3.5L to get the 200kw. Which doesn't leave much in the way of future upgrades from toyota or aftermarket. Mind you I can't see a performance enthusiast picking an Aurion as their car of choice

[Farlig]

looks more like a m112 actualy?

[Low_VX_Taxi]

im surprised that Toyota, Mitsubishi and GM Holden have not been doing any research into Turbocharging (at least openly) in the V6 arena, after all of the success that ford has had running their XR6 with factory turbo I wouldve thought maybe they may have been looking down a similar avenue? With mitsubishi's investments into the turbo Evo range one would assume they would stick with what they know~

[calais_304]

im surprised that Toyota, Mitsubishi and GM Holden have not been doing any research into Turbocharging (at least openly) in the V6 arena, after all of the success that ford has had running their XR6 with factory turbo I wouldve thought maybe they may have been looking down a similar avenue? With mitsubishi's investments into the turbo Evo range one would assume they would stick with what they know~

yea im in the same boat, i'd love to see an SV6T brought into production to take on the XR6T, at the same time i'd also love to see them just bring a TT 8 with awd

[Low_VX_Taxi]

yea im in the same boat, i'd love to see an SV6T brought into production to take on the XR6T, at the same time i'd also love to see them just bring a TT 8 with awd

Be good 2 c a TT Sv6 not that im into TTs

[AttaBoy]

I'd still have that screaming under the hood of my car!!!

If the standard Aurion engine is 200kw, then I bet this one with the S/C should have good amount of extra power to impress.

I mean 200kw stock Aurion V6 is a damn good effort considering not many V6's out there have these figures in stock form. Even tho holden is pretty close to that figure in their high output alloytec.

[andyman]

ITS AN M90

so, obviously they are still made and it ticked all the boxes for toyota, it may be the same housing with different internals you never know

[SweetWagon]

ITS AN M90

yeh it may have been an m90 in the pic but as in knowledge_is_power's post, it mentions twin-screw or whipple as some as you may know, which are are fair bit more effecient than the standard roots blowers like the m90.

I'd still have that screaming under the hood of my car!!!

If the standard Aurion engine is 200kw, then I bet this one with the S/C should have good amount of extra power to impress.

I mean 200kw stock Aurion V6 is a damn good effort considering not many V6's out there have these figures in stock form. Even tho holden is pretty close to that figure in their high output alloytec.

pity their still fwd (I think!!)

[AttaBoy]

yeah is a pity they are front wheel drive....
I don't understand why they put such powerful engine in a front wheel drive configuration as you know it would not be good especially in wet conditions.
I've driven a Camry before and I get a lot of wheel spin when taking off on wet surfaces and that Camry's engine output is no match to the Aurion's so it would be worst.

[padrickz88]

WOW! if they were RWD id have one (if i had the money)...... seriously they need to give people a choice, bring out 2 models of the aurion with a fwd and rwd version, i know alot of people would go get a aurion

[JD]

im surprised that Toyota, Mitsubishi and GM Holden have not been doing any research into Turbocharging (at least openly) in the V6 arena, after all of the success that ford has had running their XR6 with factory turbo I wouldve thought maybe they may have been looking down a similar avenue? With mitsubishi's investments into the turbo Evo range one would assume they would stick with what they know~

because the falcon engine a straight six, i think its easier to turbo a straight than it is for a V6.

I was reading a fast fours magazine not long ago and they had a nissan 350Z and someone wanted it twin turbo and apparntly it was a real bitch to put in due to a lack of space. ( BTW thats a 3.5L V6 )

[Marco-EFIVL]

Why is it most jap marque bar Nissian have this thing against RWD. I know it allows for more cabin space and it is better for manufacturing cost, but seriously... WHY OH WHY?!?!?!?

[Patrio7]

Why is it most jap marque bar Nissian have this thing against RWD. I know it allows for more cabin space and it is better for manufacturing cost, but seriously... WHY OH WHY?!?!?!?

i've only seen two benifits for a FF

1) tight chicanes
2) snow driving in urban areas but even then a AWD would trump them there

i wouldnt mind seeing a VS sedan shell going AWD, would make for a fun vehicle on dirt lol but other than that, nah. i like my sloppy FR, i know what it will do as it happens.