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    I cant even have a few days off due to a broken finger without being hassled every day to come back to work.

    i slammed it in my girlfriends car door on sunday, seen the doctor on monday..

    went to work for half a day on tuesday, but was too sore to lift anything or use a cash register one handed and put stuff in bags, it would take ages and piss everyone off.

    i can still use a home pc, and one of the girls from work seen me online for myspace and went into work bitching about me to the boss saying i can use a register...

    now the boss is on my back, saying let me know by friday etc i can't work miracles and make my finger heal and my hand stop swelling and aching.

    i feel as if the boss is trying to find any reason to get rid of me.


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    Errr, if you cant use a register how can you use a keyboard?

    When you are sick you should stay at home and be sick, i do not blame the boss for putting pressure on you, i would do the same thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by minux View Post
    Errr, if you cant use a register how can you use a keyboard?

    When you are sick you should stay at home and be sick, i do not blame the boss for putting pressure on you, i would do the same thing.
    umm i work at a supermarket to and doing "register" is not just the register, you need to put stuff in bags (they stict alot so you usually need two hands to seperate them) and there is some heavy **** to lift sometimes, and to do it quick with 2 hands is hard enough let alone 1 hand, and to kingdiamond i have no advice for you mate but i know a doing register is hard enough as it is let alone with one hand but a keyboard with 1 hand is so much easier, maybe get some advice from people who have been in the situation before?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingDiamond View Post
    I cant even have a few days off due to a broken finger without being hassled every day to come back to work.

    i slammed it in my girlfriends car door on sunday, seen the doctor on monday..

    went to work for half a day on tuesday, but was too sore to lift anything or use a cash register one handed and put stuff in bags, it would take ages and piss everyone off.

    i can still use a home pc, and one of the girls from work seen me online for myspace and went into work bitching about me to the boss saying i can use a register...

    now the boss is on my back, saying let me know by friday etc i can't work miracles and make my finger heal and my hand stop swelling and aching.

    i feel as if the boss is trying to find any reason to get rid of me.


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    Did you get a certificate from the doctors?

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    Quote Originally Posted by padrickz88 View Post
    umm i work at a supermarket to and doing "register" is not just the register, you need to put stuff in bags (they stict alot so you usually need two hands to seperate them) and there is some heavy **** to lift sometimes, and to do it quick with 2 hands is hard enough let alone 1 hand, and to kingdiamond i have no advice for you mate but i know a doing register is hard enough as it is let alone with one hand but a keyboard with 1 hand is so much easier, maybe get some advice from people who have been in the situation before?
    Its not the point, if you are well enough to be up and cruising on the net you are well enough to do non standard duties. I don't give a crap how hard or easy a job is, if you are sick that does not mean stay at home and play around on the net. You get paid sick days out of a companies pocket, not your pocket so at least have the decency to respect your employer. If it were me employing this person they'd have already lost their job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by minux View Post
    Its not the point, if you are well enough to be up and cruising on the net you are well enough to do non standard duties. I don't give a crap how hard or easy a job is, if you are sick that does not mean stay at home and play around on the net. You get paid sick days out of a companies pocket, not your pocket so at least have the decency to respect your employer. If it were me employing this person they'd have already lost their job.
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    If the doctor declares that you are unfit to work then that is it. If you went to work while uncleared & had an accident the sh*t would really hit the fan. However there is always some type of light duties you can perform if not able to do your normal job. Most doctors will give a light duties clearance if you want one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingDiamond View Post
    I cant even have a few days off due to a broken finger without being hassled every day to come back to work.

    i slammed it in my girlfriends car door on sunday, seen the doctor on monday..

    went to work for half a day on tuesday, but was too sore to lift anything or use a cash register one handed and put stuff in bags, it would take ages and piss everyone off.

    i can still use a home pc, and one of the girls from work seen me online for myspace and went into work bitching about me to the boss saying i can use a register...

    now the boss is on my back, saying let me know by friday etc i can't work miracles and make my finger heal and my hand stop swelling and aching.

    i feel as if the boss is trying to find any reason to get rid of me.


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    i wouldnt worry about being sacked, you have no idea how hard it is for a buisness to sack someone, i know because it just happened at our place, (it was for good reasoning) even still he didnt get sacked, he was put on monitoring and transferrred to a different shop

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    Minux do you excpect him to lie in bed all day because of a sore finger? Would you? I bet you would be on the net. Even if it means using one hand.

    King Diamond just say to him if there is anything I can do where it wont effect my finger then ill do that. If not get a cirtificate.

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    i am going to the " dark side " and agreeing with minux, i think if you can go on the net you could do some light duties rather than nothing at all your boss will be happy and also when you get really injured he will give you all the time you need without bitching.
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    Quote Originally Posted by minux View Post
    Its not the point, if you are well enough to be up and cruising on the net you are well enough to do non standard duties. I don't give a crap how hard or easy a job is, if you are sick that does not mean stay at home and play around on the net. You get paid sick days out of a companies pocket, not your pocket so at least have the decency to respect your employer. If it were me employing this person they'd have already lost their job.
    Not really. This guy obviously works in retail in a supermarket. I worked in a supermarket in my younger years, that said Im only 22, and I cant think of a non standard duty that will out weigh any cost v benefit situations. Happy to be corrected though if someone thinks about something.

    Using a keyboard or a mouse is nowhere near operating a register in a grocery. I cant believe a comparison was made between the 2. I was genuinely sick with the flu and took a day or 2 off work. I could still watch TV (although not for long) but I was not well enough to go to work.

    Minux, I respect my employer hence why I have not faked any sick days in my 4 years of employment. I take the day off, deducted off annual leave. If he does get paid sick leave, the Company would have set up a provision for sick leave and would have taken it into account regardless of whether or not its taken.

    Kingdiamond, if you have not already told your employer it was you, say it was someone else using your PC. If you have, speak to your employer and explain the difference between work and a what you did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelo.vs View Post
    Not really. This guy obviously works in retail in a supermarket. I worked in a supermarket in my younger years, that said Im only 22, and I cant think of a non standard duty that will out weigh any cost v benefit situations. Happy to be corrected though if someone thinks about something.

    Using a keyboard or a mouse is nowhere near operating a register in a grocery. I cant believe a comparison was made between the 2. I was genuinely sick with the flu and took a day or 2 off work. I could still watch TV (although not for long) but I was not well enough to go to work.

    Minux, I respect my employer hence why I have not faked any sick days in my 4 years of employment. I take the day off, deducted off annual leave. If he does get paid sick leave, the Company would have set up a provision for sick leave and would have taken it into account regardless of whether or not its taken.

    Kingdiamond, if you have not already told your employer it was you, say it was someone else using your PC. If you have, speak to your employer and explain the difference between work and a what you did.
    Well that's just slightly ****ed up. You claim you respect your employer and then you suggest that kingdiamond should lie to his. Realistically, a broken finger doesn't necessitate more leave than a day off to get it splinted/bound/whatever by the doc. I can just about guarantee there are light duties around the shop that can be done one handed. FFS I work as a storeman in a warehouse full of 4wd tyres (considerably physically harder than retail, I can assure you of that) and there are plenty of light duties for the ocassional injured dude.
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    Quote Originally Posted by angelo.vs View Post
    Not really. This guy obviously works in retail in a supermarket. I worked in a supermarket in my younger years, that said Im only 22, and I cant think of a non standard duty that will out weigh any cost v benefit situations. Happy to be corrected though if someone thinks about something.

    Using a keyboard or a mouse is nowhere near operating a register in a grocery. I cant believe a comparison was made between the 2. I was genuinely sick with the flu and took a day or 2 off work. I could still watch TV (although not for long) but I was not well enough to go to work.

    Minux, I respect my employer hence why I have not faked any sick days in my 4 years of employment. I take the day off, deducted off annual leave. If he does get paid sick leave, the Company would have set up a provision for sick leave and would have taken it into account regardless of whether or not its taken.

    Kingdiamond, if you have not already told your employer it was you, say it was someone else using your PC. If you have, speak to your employer and explain the difference between work and a what you did.
    You cant sweep floors, answer phones, help in an office?

    Your post really has no logic to it, you say how honest you are by not "faking" a sick day, yet in the next line you tell the guy to lie to his employer. Yep, makes sense. Sorry but if you have been caught at least have the balls to say you weren't well, but you were well enough to do a few things online.

    It seems to be an ongoing thing these days, people just lie rather than face a punishment.
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    it sucks when things like this happens tho,no one likes getting injured.i personally prob wuld take one day off max then go back in but having ur boss ringing ya every fn hour is bs! our courier whos in his late 50s had a minor heart attack and was in hospital for almost a month and all the boss bitched about was when is he coming back,ringing him at hospital everyday hassling him to hurry up! he served them for over a decade and while doing his job almost dies and all they can think about is wats taking so long! some companys are just ruff as.thats my coin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by minux View Post
    You cant sweep floors, answer phones, help in an office?

    Your post really has no logic to it, you say how honest you are by not "faking" a sick day, yet in the next line you tell the guy to lie to his employer. Yep, makes sense. Sorry but if you have been caught at least have the balls to say you weren't well, but you were well enough to do a few things online.

    It seems to be an ongoing thing these days, people just lie rather than face a punishment.
    A checkout person cant help in an office or answer phones. They wouldnt get a checkout person to sweep the floors they have cleaners for that and if they didnt they would get a grocery person (unless kingdiamond is an allrounder). I turned up to nightfill at Woolworths one night work with a bad (but healing) neck. I said I could probably fill the shelves but when I tried I realised I couldn't. I then asked if I could just face the shelves or just do something light out the back but he refused and sent me home. I must have been a liability problem.

    Unless you have actually experienced doing the job kingdiamond does or have worked in a supermarket lately I suggest you shouldnt comment on this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pandaman View Post
    Well that's just slightly ****ed up. You claim you respect your employer and then you suggest that kingdiamond should lie to his. Realistically, a broken finger doesn't necessitate more leave than a day off to get it splinted/bound/whatever by the doc. I can just about guarantee there are light duties around the shop that can be done one handed. FFS I work as a storeman in a warehouse full of 4wd tyres (considerably physically harder than retail, I can assure you of that) and there are plenty of light duties for the ocassional injured dude.
    I do respect my employer but if his employer is going to treat him like he is why wouldnt he try and cover his ass?

    What light duties are there around the shop would he be able to do without the use of his hand with the broken finger?
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    Quote Originally Posted by minux View Post
    You cant sweep floors, answer phones, help in an office?

    Your post really has no logic to it, you say how honest you are by not "faking" a sick day, yet in the next line you tell the guy to lie to his employer. Yep, makes sense. Sorry but if you have been caught at least have the balls to say you weren't well, but you were well enough to do a few things online.

    It seems to be an ongoing thing these days, people just lie rather than face a punishment.
    Nope not in a supermarket. Not even in my office. We have cleaners to sweep, reception to pick up phones and well other people working in the office that dont need help. As I said it comes back to cost v benefit. Minux, as much as you would like employees to not take days off it is inevitable. I dont think the guy is asking for a month off so I dont see why a couple of days would be an issue.

    It does have logic. See my reply to the other guy. If his boss is going to try and terminate him for a silly reason why wouldnt he try and save his job? I put 110% when I work and thats partly because my employers treat me well. eg. if I have to leave early, take a day off etc, there are no problems. Its give and take. If an employer has no respect for his employees, why should they respect him back?

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelo.vs View Post
    I do respect my employer but if his employer is going to treat him like he is why wouldnt he try and cover his ass?
    Treat him like what? A fella who's been sprung using the net when his hand is supposedly so stuffed he can't do anything at work?

    Quote Originally Posted by angelo.vs View Post
    What light duties are there around the shop would he be able to do without the use of his hand with the broken finger?
    Dunno exactly, sweeping floors and answering phones are a couple of things that comes to mind, but apparently you fellas are above that sort of thing or stepping out of your job description is against your religion or something. Anyway, if the employer wants him back at work, chances are he has something in mind. I'm not disputing that the boss is being a prick about it, I just think he might have a valid point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drewins View Post
    A checkout person cant help in an office or answer phones. They wouldnt get a checkout person to sweep the floors they have cleaners for that and if they didnt they would get a grocery person (unless kingdiamond is an allrounder). I turned up to nightfill at Woolworths one night work with a bad (but healing) neck. I said I could probably fill the shelves but when I tried I realised I couldn't. I then asked if I could just face the shelves or just do something light out the back but he refused and sent me home. I must have been a liability problem.

    Unless you have actually experienced doing the job kingdiamond does or have worked in a supermarket lately I suggest you shouldnt comment on this.
    yep sounds about right, and with office work they dont let ANYBODY work in there unless there really high in the company. i know at mine only the managers are allowed in there. the only thing we go to the office for is to get change for the register if im doing it.... thats it.

    seriously i dont see what the fuss is about. and besides do what you want to do at the end of the day

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    this is some war going on here people!!! Calm down people before this thread gets closed. Or in fact should be closed......
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    Quote Originally Posted by pandaman View Post
    Treat him like what? A fella who's been sprung using the net when his hand is supposedly so stuffed he can't do anything at work?
    Hassling him for calling in sick with a valid reason. Wow.. still comparing surfing the net with working in a register.


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    Dunno exactly, sweeping floors and answering phones are a couple of things that comes to mind, but apparently you fellas are above that sort of thing or stepping out of your job description is against your religion or something. Anyway, if the employer wants him back at work, chances are he has something in mind. I'm not disputing that the boss is being a prick about it, I just think he might have a valid point.
    No we are not above that sort of thing, its just how it works. For example, Im an accountant, I answer phones when I need to but dont sweep floors because we have a cleaner for that. I dont mind stepping out of my job description if its within reason.

    As said before, I worked in a grocery for a couple of years and Im sure other people who have worked in a grocery before will be able to tell you there is nothing you can do in that situation given the cirumstances.

    So you do agree his boss is being a prick about it so why cant he be 'smart' and tactful with his reasoning?

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