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Old 10-04-2007, 01:48 PM
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Default New P-plate Legislations For Victorian Drivers

Ok .. this might spark some anger but hey dont shoot the messenger:
Primary information:
The current power to weight restriction will continue to apply to any probationary driver who obtained their licence before 1 July 2007.
Thats is: 125KW to 1Tonne of car.
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The new graduated licensing system is being introduced to help make younger drivers become safer drivers
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Each year 18 to 25 year olds are involved in crashes in which around 120 people are killed and 2300 are seriously injured. This is about one third of the Victorian road toll.





1. If you will obtain your P's AFTER JULY 1, 2007:
From JULY 1, 2007 a probationary licence holder will not be able to drive a vehicle if it has:

x An engine of eight or more cylinders;
x A turbocharged or supercharged engine (except diesel powered vehicles);
x An engine that has been modified to increase its performance;
x And/or certain high performance six cylinder cars;
An official list of nominated vehicles will be published on the vicroads website from 1 July 2007.
In the interim it is expected to include the following vehicles:
- the BMW M and M3,
- Nissan 350Z,
- Porsche (all models), and
- Mercedes Benz SLK350.

Vehicles which are excluded from these restrictions are:
x Turbocharged or supercharged diesel powered vehicles (without engine performance modifications);
x All models of the Smart car, produced by Mercedes Benz;
x Nominated vehicles with low powered turbocharged or supercharged engines, These vehicles include the following vehicles:
- Suzuki Cappucino 2D Cabriolet Turbo 3 cylinder 689cc, and
- Daihatsu Copen L880 2D Convertible 4 cylinder 659 cc.

If you want to buy a vehicle and are unsure whether it is high powered, the first step is to ask the seller or dealer prior to buying the vehicle or contact the manufacturer directly for more information. If you are still unsure or doubt the information given, seek further advice from a licensed mechanic.

Penalties:
From 1 July 2007, the penalty for driving a high powered vehicle will be three demerit points and a maximum fine of approximately $1100. These penalties will apply to both the current power to weight restrictions and the new high powered vehicles restrictions.





2. If you have obtained your P's BEFORE JULY 1, 2007:
If you obtained your P plates on or before 30 June 2007, a high powered vehicle is considered to be any vehicle with a power to weight ratio over 125 kw per tonne, or with an engine capacity to weight ratio over 3.5 litres per tonne. This includes any make of car.

If your car is modified, you may also need to obtain an engineer's certificate and do your own calculations. You are also required to notify VicRoads of any significant modification. Penalties for not doing so are tough.
If in doubt contact VicRoads on 13 11 71.

For example, if a V8 vehicle weighs 1382kg with a power rating of 185kw, then the power to weight ratio is: 185/1382 x 1000 = 130kw per tonne. This vehicle would therefore be considered a high powered vehicle, because it is over 125 km per tonne. You can calculate the power to weight ratio of a vehicle using this power to weight ratio calculator. http://webapps.vicroads.vic.gov.au/v...wcalc?OpenForm

Penalties
From 1 July 2007 the penalty for driving a high powered vehicle will be three demerit points and a maximum fine of approximately $1100. These penalties will apply to both the current power to weight restrictions and the new high powered vehicles restrictions.
For more information on High Powered Vehicle Restrictions
Contact VicRoads on 13 11 71 (Monday to Friday - 8:30am-5:00pm. Saturday 8.30am-2.00pm)

I hope this helps people out, it sucks i know, but hopefuly less deaths will occur from these rules, we'll see how it goes. There you go ladies and gents, - VicRoads screws us in the ass yet once again.
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Old 10-04-2007, 01:51 PM
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old news really, theres a couple of threads on this. though this is the latest info copy and pasted from the site.

dont forget the $500 fine for under 26 yo not carrying their licence at all times
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Old 10-04-2007, 01:53 PM
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hahahahahahahahahahahaha, have fun new p platers
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Old 10-04-2007, 05:58 PM
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Yeah relativly old news now. But still, gonna be fun poking fun at my brother when he gets his p's in 2 years.
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Old 10-04-2007, 06:13 PM
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ahhhh my g/f wont be able to drive my car.

Actually on second thoughts, YIPPIIIEEEE
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Old 11-04-2007, 07:35 PM
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that sux hard core lol lucky im 18 in may...
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Old 11-04-2007, 07:40 PM
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So wait... let me get this straight


I already have my P's... have had for over a year now....


SO, reading the above info... I'M still allowed to drive a turbo charged car, as long as the power to weight does not exceed 125kw/tonne?

Is this right? Or does the nonturbo/supercharged thing apply to people who already have their P's as well??
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Old 11-04-2007, 08:05 PM
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So wait... let me get this straight


I already have my P's... have had for over a year now....


SO, reading the above info... I'M still allowed to drive a turbo charged car, as long as the power to weight does not exceed 125kw/tonne?
Yes. From my understanding the only thing that changes for existing probationary license holders is the penalty system when they get caught driving hipo cars.

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Old 11-04-2007, 11:46 PM
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swwweeeeettttttt

The forester is 109kw/tonne .... Good news for me... Bad news for my old man...
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Old 12-04-2007, 09:52 AM
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ah man that sucks so much for the new p' platers coming up.

im glad thats why i live in s.a they havent got these gay laws in yet.
i dont see the point of having power restrictions coz u can still crash and kill urself in a dunger peice of crap car
doesnt make sense to me. i think its just another way for the government to **** off young people lol
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Old 12-04-2007, 02:38 PM
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yer u can kill urself in any car
but cars that are more powerful would have a faster pickup and then u cud loose control on pickup.
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Old 13-04-2007, 12:28 AM
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its a case of discrimination if u ask me, just an easy way for the government to increase their revenue. P plate drivers are not really the main problem when it comes to car-accident-related deaths, i'm pretty sure when you hear on the news of people dying in car accidents its mainly full liscened drivers that are involved.
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