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    wanna know what person do you think is at fault of this accident.

    1.Merc driver for mergin lanes without doing a head check.

    2.Truck driver mergin lanes knowin he cant see that bit of his blind spot.

    3.ACA for doing 75K's in the right hand lane.
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    IS there anywhere else i can view this, i dont perticularly want to dl media player 10 to this computer.

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    i didnt have to download mp10, just had to use ie (shudders)

    but im sure i know that red vn in the clip

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    Yeah, I saw the red VN too, haha, But it looks like the Merc is more in the lane before the truck starts to move in, but very close. Correct me if im wrong, is it 100 in that tunnel? Silly ACA was going too slow....

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    its 80 through the tunnel. when the VN takes off at the end he neally collects the other car.
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    I'd say its hard to blame one individual for that accident.

    First off, the reporter should not have been driving whilst doing that story. She is obviously not a confident driver at the best of times, so putting her in a tunnel, whilst reporting, in heavy traffic was downright stupid. I'd like to think that the police might consider prosecuting her or the network, but thats probably never going to happen. She also has an obvious phobia of trucks, so in my opinion is partly to blame for putting herself deliberately in the situation she got into.

    Secondly the Merc driver was accelerating to a speed faster than the traffic was going in the outside lane. I don't know the place, but it looks like a freeway, so him travelling faster than the traffic in the outside lane is an offence. He is partly at fault from his actions

    Lastly the truck driver was obviously going to try and do the exact same thing - swing in and pass her on the inside. The fact he pulled in so quick, didn't indicate and accelerated all at the same time would put the bulk of the blame in his lap and I would think the insurance companies involved would judge the same way.

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    Of course there is a simple solution to the problem in tunnels - make it illegal to change lanes whilst you are in there unless there is an accident or something which means you have to
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    can't play the video I'd say it's aca they suck
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    well with the merc incident im going to go with the truck being in the wrong as the merc was moving over already but the rest of them show its a two way thing.
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    its the trucks fault the merc is the occupier of the lane if he cant see anything there or its in his blind spot he shouldnt have come over.and this truck driver did the same thing im sick of he hit his indicator as he was coming over just another arogant truck driver.i can say these thing as i drive the highway everyday to get to bris

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    its ACAs fault. if they werent sitting in the right hand lane the truck would have no reason to change lanes

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    I watched last night. Maybe the truck was tailgating; maybe not. They themselves said they were using a wide-angle lense???

    However, this woman should not have been in the lane she was.

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    IMO...that woman caused the accident,she obviously has a phobia of trucks,i'm not totally blaming the driver of the truck,but because she was to busy yapping to ACA,and showing her nervousness,the driver of the truck was obviously getting upset,and in his frustration,switched lanes not looking correctly in his mirrors.i hear the reporter say that he was originally 1 car length behind,thats the requirement,although it's different for the trucks,for obvious reasons....it's people like that woman and ACA that cause these outlandish views...sure theres cowboys in trucks,but the age we call the "cowboys" is 25 and under.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DANS_S4 View Post
    She is obviously not a confident driver at the best of times, so putting her in a tunnel, whilst reporting, in heavy traffic was downright stupid. She also has an obvious phobia of trucks, so in my opinion is partly to blame for putting herself deliberately in the situation she got into.
    perfect point. if it was a normal person that was raised to drive along side of trucks then they wouldnt have a problem. but a stupid thing to do was ride the right lane under the speed limit and knowing that trucks always travel at a faster speed in the right lane.

    and shes talking bout how she cant merge lanes but when the truck collects the merc it seems she had no trouble what so ever mergin into the middle lane??

    but then again ACA woulda chop that video so much it makes it hard to believe what she says fits where.
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    i blame the truckie! why? regardless of whether the woman was in that lane or not its his responsibility to know hes driveing a 20 plus ton machine and due to his impatience he tried to jump into the next lane available forgeting about the blind spot (or disregarding it all together) and takeing out the mercedes who was in their right with indicator on to merge into the next lane! but with that all said and done lets not forget that truckies have a damn tough job and sometimes travel very long distances & have time deadlines to meet! and as the saying goes :without trucks australia stops! its hard enough as it is to drive for some people in heavy traffic let alone a 20 ton rig! but i do hate the truckies who get on power trips and tailgate people! but looking at that doco id say all aussie drivers (both cars and trucks) need just a little more patience and consideration and never forget that we dont live in a perfect world and forgiveness goes alot further than anger!

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    Quote Originally Posted by stocky View Post
    its ACAs fault. if they werent sitting in the right hand lane the truck would have no reason to change lanes
    I agree, she states she was sitting below the limit yet stays in the right lane she shouldnt be there she should have the courtesy to move. She has ample time just as she enters the tunnel to move over. Had she done this the accident would not of happened. Not to mention she has NO CONFIDENCE behind the wheel, that in itself is a danger.

    The merc and truck just merged at similar times, to blame the truck is a joke, most people with even a small bit of brain matter would merge lanes after being past the truck to reduce anything like this happening. To move over straight into a vehicles blindspot is just idiotic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stocky View Post
    its ACAs fault. if they werent sitting in the right hand lane the truck would have no reason to change lanes
    They weren't breaking the law tho. In Australia you can sit in what lane you like when the speed limit is 80km/h.
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    I would say the Truck driver is at fault here. Even if he didnt hit that merc. He wouldve came very very close to the car behind him.

    The lady said she doesnt feel confident around trucks. When youre in a tunnel like the Burnely tunnel (i know that incident was in the Domain) being next to 2/3 trucks makes you a little nervous because it is quite a squeeze. And its not exactly illegal to go a couple of K's below the limit. I think the truckie was just impatient in this case.

    There should be a truck lane for those tunnels. Would solve the problem of trucks being blamed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AirStrike View Post
    They weren't breaking the law tho. In Australia you can sit in what lane you like when the speed limit is 80km/h.
    I was of the belief it is 80 km/h and over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by minux View Post
    I was of the belief it is 80 km/h and over.
    I thought it was 80km/h and under.
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    80K & over you must keep left unless overtaking. anything under 80K & unless there are signs then you can be in whatever lane you like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AirStrike View Post
    I thought it was 80km/h and under.
    80 K's and under....left lane on dual carriageways,i can't remember now,she was in the lane closest to tunnel wall wasn't she? thats the slow lane...i dunno i think your road laws maybe different,all i can say is she musn't of being doing 80,as the truck would have no need to move over to get past her....Hmmm just don't know,but i'm getting sick of hearing about how people think truck drivers are bullies,a small majority yes,but only a small majority.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NORTI View Post
    80K & over you must keep left unless overtaking. anything under 80K & unless there are signs then you can be in whatever lane you like.
    noooo,thats not right,all slow moving vehicles must stay left....regardless of speed limit

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    Quote Originally Posted by samuels View Post
    noooo,thats not right,all slow moving vehicles must stay left....regardless of speed limit
    From QLD transport website

    When must I keep left?

    On roads that are not multi laned, drivers must stay as close as practicable to the left side of the road.

    When the speed limit is 90km/hr or more on multi-lane roads you must keep the right lane free, unless you are:

    * overtaking
    * turning right
    * making a U turn
    * avoiding an obstacle
    * driving in congested traffic.

    It is an offence to drive in the right lane if none of the above criteria is occurring.

    This rule also applies if there is a KEEP LEFT UNLESS OVERTAKING sign.

    Drivers are allowed to overtake on the left if another driver is blocking the right lane. This rule applies on all multi-lane roads.

    Section 130 of the Queensland Road Rules (PDF**, 2.51MB) applies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J_D View Post
    From QLD transport website

    When must I keep left?

    On roads that are not multi laned, drivers must stay as close as practicable to the left side of the road.

    When the speed limit is 90km/hr or more on multi-lane roads you must keep the right lane free, unless you are:

    * overtaking
    * turning right
    * making a U turn
    * avoiding an obstacle
    * driving in congested traffic.

    It is an offence to drive in the right lane if none of the above criteria is occurring.

    This rule also applies if there is a KEEP LEFT UNLESS OVERTAKING sign.

    Drivers are allowed to overtake on the left if another driver is blocking the right lane. This rule applies on all multi-lane roads.

    Section 130 of the Queensland Road Rules (PDF**, 2.51MB) applies.
    well that explains it...QLD laws are always different,although i must admit it has been many years since iv'e read our traffic regulations,but here in tassie,all vehicles moving to the speed limit or under must adhere to the slow lane,allowing faster moving traffic past,if you are in an 80K zone,you should adhere to the left hand lane,but as there are drivers that drive less than 80,or even 60,this makes it impractible

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