QLD - Reporting Illegal Driving

[Bax]

What's the process in QLD to report illegal/ terrible behaviour on the roads. There is nothing on the website and it looks like the only way you can do it is by calling the station?

I'm not even sure if they'd be interested, it's minor but it's a start.

Anyone know?

[Shounak]

Local police station? Although I doubt highly that anything would eventuate.

[J_D]

Ive reported dangerous driving before and they dont do anything. Dont waste your time, just let them get on with their revenue raising. Thats all they are interested in.

[TheForgotten]

yeah I'll agree, don't waste your time. I've had countless people cut me off pulling out of driveways/side streets and reported them, but the cops don't really care enough to do anything

[mar-d-mac]

Ive reported dangerous driving before and they dont do anything. Dont waste your time, just let them get on with their revenue raising. Thats all they are interested in.

here we go again, "cop's don't bother, don't do anything, revenue raising", sledging.

in WA, ppl who ring our police assistance centre to report all manner of crappy things, including idiot drivers, the calls are placed as tasking jobs, depending on the quality of info, i emphasise QUALITY, that is given they are either task to a vehicle to attend or they go to the nearest police station to acted upon. this info could be acted upon days after the event, but it still ensures some level of attendance is done.

just to simply state that coppers don't care, don't do this and that is straight narrow minded thought and speech processes....this is not a direct finger point at anyone, but for god's sake, these ppl are out there not to revenue raise as some ppl see it, if ppl don't commit offence they don't get fined, therefore it can't be revenue raising....i grant it though, that multinova cameras may give that perception, but the copper on the side of the road, targeting known speed location, is there for everyone's piece of mind and maybe on that day stopped a fatal or serious crash from happening...
and yes if ur wondering, i am one of those coppers, but i do care, cos that could be my family out on the road that it's happening to...

I would love for ppl to spend 8 hours in my work shoes and know that 95% of the ppl afterwards don't ever want to do this job....if ur info is good and credible, you'll find it will be acted on....

JC - sorry for my soapbox and 2c worth, but it fires me up...

[impulsesv6]

police assistance centre? - i dont think QLD has one, if we do ive never heard of one.

"these ppl are out there not to revenue raise"
"if ppl don't commit offence they don't get fined"

- sorry but i dont buy this

my recent incident, this happened last saturday night - this is copied from jcclub:

as you guys know i have a sports exhaust on my car, i went down to the local shops tonight (foodworks loganholme) to get some stuff, when leaving the carpark i gave the car a bit of a squirt, no wheel spin, no speeding.

(there was also a turbo 180sx leaving and a v8 falcon sedan entering the carpark at the same time)

coppa who didnt have line of sight of my car (cos i could only see the canopy of the police hilux - there was a silver wagon between the police vehicle and i) pulled me up.

when she first came to the door she asked if my car was a V8 - i said no - she said the car was loud.

she then asked why i was driving like that,
- i said that cos my daughter is at home and needs medicine and cos i left my bank card at home i was going home to pick it up and come back down to the shops
- she asked if i thought screeching tyres would make the car quicker or not
- i said neither way.
- she then said screeching tyres would make the car slower and said i was going to be getting a ticket

she then came back and explained the details on the ticket
the particulars of the offence state:"wilfully drive vehice in a way that makes unnecessary noise"
2pts - $240

- i said $240 what for -
- she said hooning laws, she said i pulled out of the carpark and schreeched the tyres
- i said the car has traction control.
- she said she didnt care.

then i went on bout how part of a club where can i find details of laws, she didnt know, she said to google it.

i have written a formal letter of complaint, will see what happens

[pandaman]

here we go again, "cop's don't bother, don't do anything, revenue raising", sledging.

in WA, ppl who ring our police assistance centre to report all manner of crappy things, including idiot drivers, the calls are placed as tasking jobs, depending on the quality of info, i emphasise QUALITY, that is given they are either task to a vehicle to attend or they go to the nearest police station to acted upon. this info could be acted upon days after the event, but it still ensures some level of attendance is done.

just to simply state that coppers don't care, don't do this and that is straight narrow minded thought and speech processes....this is not a direct finger point at anyone, but for god's sake, these ppl are out there not to revenue raise as some ppl see it, if ppl don't commit offence they don't get fined, therefore it can't be revenue raising....i grant it though, that multinova cameras may give that perception, but the copper on the side of the road, targeting known speed location, is there for everyone's piece of mind and maybe on that day stopped a fatal or serious crash from happening...
and yes if ur wondering, i am one of those coppers, but i do care, cos that could be my family out on the road that it's happening to...

I would love for ppl to spend 8 hours in my work shoes and know that 95% of the ppl afterwards don't ever want to do this job....if ur info is good and credible, you'll find it will be acted on....

JC - sorry for my soapbox and 2c worth, but it fires me up...

While revenue raising is the wrong term for it, there are a lot of people who have a perception that the police are not being effective in controlling crime. There has to be a reason for this perception.

Example: Last night the block my sister lives on was closed off by the police, cop cars everywhere, dog squad, blokes in body armor with sub-machine guns, the works. My sister made a poorly timed walk to the video store and got shut out. (with her fiance and 4 month old kid shut in) So I went to keep her company while the coppers sorted out whatever was going on. Apparently some fellow with a gun was taking potshots from an apartment. Six hours later the cops pack up and sod off. "hooray they got the prick, etc. etc" much good feeling. This morning we hear, they were chasing some juvenile little prick with a slug gun around the block. They didn't even catch him. So currently my opinion of NSW police isn't real high either, not because they didn't catch him, but because they mobilised the dog squad and tactical, closed an entire city block for 6 hours FOR A KID WITH A SLUG GUN, and still didn't catch him.

When you've got stuff like that happening, and minor traffic infringements being handed out left right and centre, surely you can see why some people feel a little hard done by?

[AttaBoy]

I doubt they do anything without hard evidence like recorded video or something. Evidence is important because anyone could be dobbing anyone that without evidence it is point less. They don't care whether its a 20 year old guy or 80 year old lady doing burnouts - they need some form of evidence to see is it actually happened otherwise they are powerless to issue a fine or whatever they do.

[hingo1983]

While revenue raising is the wrong term for it, there are a lot of people who have a perception that the police are not being effective in controlling crime. There has to be a reason for this perception.

Example: Last night the block my sister lives on was closed off by the police, cop cars everywhere, dog squad, blokes in body armor with sub-machine guns, the works. My sister made a poorly timed walk to the video store and got shut out. (with her fiance and 4 month old kid shut in) So I went to keep her company while the coppers sorted out whatever was going on. Apparently some fellow with a gun was taking potshots from an apartment. Six hours later the cops pack up and sod off. "hooray they got the prick, etc. etc" much good feeling. This morning we hear, they were chasing some juvenile little prick with a slug gun around the block. They didn't even catch him. So currently my opinion of NSW police isn't real high either, not because they didn't catch him, but because they mobilised the dog squad and tactical, closed an entire city block for 6 hours FOR A KID WITH A SLUG GUN, and still didn't catch him.

When you've got stuff like that happening, and minor traffic infringements being handed out left right and centre, surely you can see why some people feel a little hard done by?

So your sister lives in Queanbehole. I heard about that. The cops should have lobbed a tear gas grenade in the window and pepper sprayed the little bastard. Would have taken less time and wasted less of tax payers money. Too many donuts.

[pandaman]

So your sister lives in Queanbehole. I heard about that. The cops should have lobbed a tear gas grenade in the window and pepper sprayed the little bastard. Would have taken less time and wasted less of tax payers money. Too many donuts.

No comment.

[cruzncommo]

The cops in my town dont care what you do aslong as you do it out of town.

[mar-d-mac]

okay every armchair critic out there, i'm not going to turn this into an dispute over ppl's own perceptions or anger at the police. i enjoy everyone has a point of view and opinion and rightly express them....everyone at some stage in their life is going to come in contact with police for whatever reasons...some of this is going to leave a bad taste in ur mouths and some it will not and they'll be appreciative. i cannot control the actions or decisions of my fellow officers, only my own.

i stand by my comment, impulsivesv6, that if u don't commit an offence in my mind, u don't get fined...what other coppers do is their own actions. the situation u quoted leaves a little to be desired...u are going off what he has said on his post, and maybe it is entirely true and correct, well then he'll have grounds to make a written letter of complaint or adjudication on the issued infringement...good luck to him...he states himself that he gave it a squirt, obviously drawing police attention, regardless his situation. he still has a right to contest the infringement in court or adjudication.

pandaman....i can see that you would feel disgruntled with your boys in blue, maybe because it was your sister's block and was shut out from her family...what would u rather the coppers have done, sent one vehicle and do an half arsed job then leave, only to let the little mother*&%$ run rampant terrorising the neighbourhood. sometimes police actions will be viewed as excessive, but one has to wander what the original information was that required the response that was given, or maybe hey hang on a sec...we have some little ****e with a gun of sorts running around the neighbourhood, get doggies, get tactical - that's what they're for - and contain the situation....yes, unfortunately he wasn't caught for whatever reasons, but better to be safe than sorry my friend...

in almost every single matter, police have to prove beyond all reasonable doubt that someone has done something illegal, there are very few instances where it is reversed upon the accused....if ppl aren't willing to be witnesses or cannot provide infallible proof then most things will not progress....that is the fact of things and how the gov. and courts have lets us down.

i know i bang my head against a wall every single day and wonder why i waste my time, it is only because i'm dedicated to this god forsaken job and helping ppl out....as well as locking baddies up....

fellas, i appreciated ur points of view and pls don't take my comments as nothing but trying to provide a somewhat other side point of view....my comments are not designed to make enemies or put ppl off, that is why these forums are good, it allows ppl to blow off steam....cheers to all...

[impulsesv6]

it was person i refer to my post is me.

here is a snippet from the letter of complaint:
.... what I would like is for this infringement notice of alleged offence to be reconsidered, and removed from my record.
Factoring that the police officer did not actually see any alleged offence,
- The street on the ticket is incorrect,
- The officer showed no consideration that my daughter was sick,
- My car comes standard with traction control,
- And the officer couldn’t explain the alleged offence.

i was given a ticket for "wilfully driving a vehicle in a way to create excess noise"
$240 - 2 pts
- i do admit that i perhaps wasnt the most polite "customer", but i did bite my tongue
- my daughter only the week before was rushed to the local medical center with a suspected case of measels, measels currently has 26 kids in isolation at one of brisbane largest hospitals,and taken 2 lives this winter. hence my concern of my daughter being sick, as you could understand I was in a hurry.


im not trying to start /continue an arguement, i just strongly feel that "some" coppas are just out to "get" ppl.
sure there are "some" good ones, i know this as i have been let off more that once when pulled over.
i have also been given tickets on occasions,and i agree that the should have been, i was speeding and i admit that.

[pandaman]

okay every armchair critic out there, i'm not going to turn this into an dispute over ppl's own perceptions or anger at the police. i enjoy everyone has a point of view and opinion and rightly express them....everyone at some stage in their life is going to come in contact with police for whatever reasons...some of this is going to leave a bad taste in ur mouths and some it will not and they'll be appreciative. i cannot control the actions or decisions of my fellow officers, only my own.

Armchair critic? Dude I've got a tonne more first hand examples of innefective policing from my six years so far as a volunteer firey, some of which placed myself and my crew in a fair bit of danger. Doubt anyone's interested in hearing them though.

pandaman....i can see that you would feel disgruntled with your boys in blue, maybe because it was your sister's block and was shut out from her family...what would u rather the coppers have done, sent one vehicle and do an half arsed job then leave, only to let the little mother*&%$ run rampant terrorising the neighbourhood. sometimes police actions will be viewed as excessive, but one has to wander what the original information was that required the response that was given, or maybe hey hang on a sec...we have some little ****e with a gun of sorts running around the neighbourhood, get doggies, get tactical - that's what they're for - and contain the situation....yes, unfortunately he wasn't caught for whatever reasons, but better to be safe than sorry my friend...

I was quite impressed and pleased with the police action, until I found out what it was for, and that it was ultimately a failure. I've got no problems with the police taking whatever steps necessary to ensure public safety. It's just that in my books a kid with an air rifle barely constitutes a health risk, let alone a life threatening situation.

in almost every single matter, police have to prove beyond all reasonable doubt that someone has done something illegal, there are very few instances where it is reversed upon the accused....if ppl aren't willing to be witnesses or cannot provide infallible proof then most things will not progress....that is the fact of things and how the gov. and courts have lets us down.

i know i bang my head against a wall every single day and wonder why i waste my time, it is only because i'm dedicated to this god forsaken job and helping ppl out....as well as locking baddies up....

I agree entirely, I have a lot of respect for the few coppers I have met who are truly conscientious and hard working. They do their best and get bugger all in return, sometimes the job satisfaction level must get pretty damn bad.

fellas, i appreciated ur points of view and pls don't take my comments as nothing but trying to provide a somewhat other side point of view....my comments are not designed to make enemies or put ppl off, that is why these forums are good, it allows ppl to blow off steam....cheers to all...

Your point of view is a rarity around here. And rare things are always valuable. Keep it up.

[hingo1983]

Here is a feelgood story about coppers...

Once I was driving my old car (Toyota Camry) down Cleveland St in Sydney at peak hour and my alternator decided it was the perfect time to pack it in. I was stuck at the top of a hill near while waiting for the traffic lights in the right hand lane. I was stuck in my car with my hazard lights on while I called the NRMA to get me out of this mess. Even though I had my hazard lights on, I still had assholes come up behind me and honk their horn (what am I supposed to do?). A couple of police officers in a rodeo (on their way to some other job) were heading the opposite direction and managed to block off the road for me so I could roll my car backwards into the left lane near the kerb, then they took off.

I know its their job to do those kind of jobs, but without them, I would have been copping abuse from dumbass drivers for another hour.

NRMA was also good. I told them over the phone that it was definately the alternator and they sent out a van and the guy repalced it on the spot. Swiped my eftpos card and drove away. Still made it in time to see Queens of the Stone Age play at the Roundhouse!

[impulsesv6]

I agree entirely, I have a lot of respect for the few coppers I have met who are truly conscientious and hard working. They do their best and get bugger all in return, sometimes the job satisfaction level must get pretty damn bad.



Your point of view is a rarity around here. And rare things are always valuable. Keep it up.

YEP - i agree

[Pub247]

What's the process in QLD to report illegal/ terrible behaviour on the roads. There is nothing on the website and it looks like the only way you can do it is by calling the station?

I'm not even sure if they'd be interested, it's minor but it's a start.

Anyone know?

Say it was roadrage. I got cut off in qld by a young lady on a roundabout notorious spot in maroochydore where it happens all the time. Anyway i gave her a honk and called her some things and basically told her to learn how to drive. Anyway She yelled out she was going to ring the cops. Had them rock up at my house couple hours later asking me what was going on. I said she cut me off on a busy roundabout and almost caused a serious accident and i told her what i thought of her driving and that was it. Police said ok and left.
So basically a bit of road rage seems to get their attention

[mar-d-mac]

it was person i refer to my post is me.

here is a snippet from the letter of complaint:
.... what I would like is for this infringement notice of alleged offence to be reconsidered, and removed from my record.
Factoring that the police officer did not actually see any alleged offence,
- The street on the ticket is incorrect,
- The officer showed no consideration that my daughter was sick,
- My car comes standard with traction control,
- And the officer couldn’t explain the alleged offence.

i was given a ticket for "wilfully driving a vehicle in a way to create excess noise"
$240 - 2 pts
- i do admit that i perhaps wasnt the most polite "customer", but i did bite my tongue
- my daughter only the week before was rushed to the local medical center with a suspected case of measels, measels currently has 26 kids in isolation at one of brisbane largest hospitals,and taken 2 lives this winter. hence my concern of my daughter being sick, as you could understand I was in a hurry.


im not trying to start /continue an arguement, i just strongly feel that "some" coppas are just out to "get" ppl.
sure there are "some" good ones, i know this as i have been let off more that once when pulled over.
i have also been given tickets on occasions,and i agree that the should have been, i was speeding and i admit that.

impulsesv6, thanks for clearing the oversight up mate...from your description of the event, i do sincerely hope you have a satisfactory response to your letter and as i said u do have every right to dispute. unfortunately there are coppers that do lack compassion, i for one allow everyone to provide an excuse no matter what it is, at least ppl feel they've had an opportunity to give something....discretion is a wonderful thing....esp if i don't actually see something happening....any consolation mate, attitude does play a big part, and don't take this the wrong way, but if it were me speaking to ya, i'd have probably let u go, i know what it's like with sick kids and i hope ur family is well now.

Armchair critic? Dude I've got a tonne more first hand examples of innefective policing from my six years so far as a volunteer firey, some of which placed myself and my crew in a fair bit of danger. Doubt anyone's interested in hearing them though.

Pandaman - ur response above, i'll get this 'quote' thing right soon i hope....yes, mate i can't agree with you more, i myself have seen some situations by coppers that beggars belief, even while i'm one myself and it's happened to me, i can't inform on the numerous, but lets just say that certain colleagues have had a good dragging over coals by me, it would b good to trade warries with ya mate, but it would probably be inappropriate...i've spent many a time with local volly firey's and u too do a damn fine job without so much as any pay or appreciation....but i can also provide stories of some outlandish stuff i seen firey's do, it flows both ways...keep up the good work...

just one more thing, in my book a kid with an air rifle constitutes a very dangerous threat to anybody, he can still inflict an hideous injury to someone as well as being armed to cause fear...

i appreciate ur comments and encouragement boys, it probably wasn't so long ago that i was thinking of returning to NSW (born and bred) & joining the coppers or go to QLD and do the same, but i'm staying put now in WA.

[mar-d-mac]

Say it was roadrage. I got cut off in qld by a young lady on a roundabout notorious spot in maroochydore where it happens all the time. Anyway i gave her a honk and called her some things and basically told her to learn how to drive. Anyway She yelled out she was going to ring the cops. Had them rock up at my house couple hours later asking me what was going on. I said she cut me off on a busy roundabout and almost caused a serious accident and i told her what i thought of her driving and that was it. Police said ok and left.
So basically a bit of road rage seems to get their attention

ur pretty much right there pubs, if there's a whiff of 'road rage' then something will be done....this type of thing is a blight on our streets and to our safety...

yes, there are bloody idiots on our roads that drive with tunnel vision, or disregard for others, but be careful how far you go in letting off steam....it can turn pear shape very quickly ans sometimes unintentionally.

[Pub247]

ur pretty much right there pubs, if there's a whiff of 'road rage' then something will be done....this type of thing is a blight on our streets and to our safety...

yes, there are bloody idiots on our roads that drive with tunnel vision, or disregard for others, but be careful how far you go in letting off steam....it can turn pear shape very quickly ans sometimes unintentionally.

I would never take things further than a few words or the finger. but sometimes that can be enough to provoke people into violence i've seen a few incidents before. Including a very funny one of this guys in a ford hurling bottles at the ferrari in front of him because he cut him off. absolute pisser

[mar-d-mac]

I would never take things further than a few words or the finger. but sometimes that can be enough to provoke people into violence i've seen a few incidents before. Including a very funny one of this guys in a ford hurling bottles at the ferrari in front of him because he cut him off. absolute pisser

LOL all the way....

[Bax]

Thanks to the few that replied on topic.

I know the others are kind of related but they didn't really help me in any way.

If I see the guy doing anything else, I'll call the police, with two cases.

Basically I see him driving like an idiot most places I go, this particular day I was driving down a street, stopped at traffic lights, left lane (turn left or straight) right lane must turn right. He's in the right lane.

Keeping in mind we hadn't stopped yet as the lights were green.. He goes into the right lane, I go left. Another car in front of me. He doesn't turn. He goes straight, cuts off the person in front of me. Then speeds off like he owns the road. Bloody dangerous.

[impulsesv6]

the unfortunate thing is they will most prob say "what proof?"

[cxcxcxvcvcvc]

when i was 17 i got pulled up in my old vk commodore and there was not a straight pannel on the car (includeing sills) the front bumper was being held up at the front by 2 pieces of rope (the sides where still attached) there was no grill the bonnet was white (the car was green) and being held down by butterflys as the front end had been pranged and the bonnet catch was stuffed! newayz this bloke cop pulls me over and notices all this and instead of giveing me the rap he starts payin me out about how i got ripped off with this car lol to quote him he said: (mate i dont know how much you paid for this car but whatever it was it was to much) we had a good laugh as he walked around the car axing me kickin the busted wheels ect and he must of felt sorry for me because he let me off and moved us on. but hey he coulda stung me hard but he was ok (thank god i have a decent car nowdayz lol) i have had plenty of police pull me up and give me the wave it all comes down to haveing respect for the police that they do have an authorative position in society and people should respect that! also could you imagine society with them