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    Question got flashed under the speedlimit??

    last night driving home on the freeway i got flashed and i was doin bout 94km/h (speed being 100km/h). there was only one uther car next 2 me (my mate) and he was doin a little slower than me... any idea?? and what happens, im guessing i wont ever here anything of it. anyone else had this happen to them?
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    had this happen got flashed and never got a fine....as i was under. guess they work it out after machines do make mistakes 2
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    Quote Originally Posted by 96vscommodore View Post
    last night driving home on the freeway i got flashed and i was doin bout 94km/h (speed being 100km/h). there was only one uther car next 2 me (my mate) and he was doin a little slower than me... any idea?? and what happens, im guessing i wont ever here anything of it. anyone else had this happen to them?
    i didn't think those things went off unless triggered ie by speeding, so you've got me stumped...see what pops up i the mail in the next few weeks
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    Quote Originally Posted by calais_304 View Post
    see what pops up i the mail in the next few weeks
    lol, im in WA try like 4 months.
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    Was probably the power pole or tree in the background speeding. Don't laugh, it actually happens.

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    sometimes they are set at rediculously low speeds to check seatbelts, phones and what not
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    It was a calibration flash. There was probably a guy standing next to it with a hand held radar, he sets the camera to go off really low, then checks the multanova's speed reading against his hand held to make sure they are the same. Don't worry about it, you won't get a fine.
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    ahh k, yeh the calibration thing makes sense. do they actualy set them low 2 try and catch ppl on cell phones/no seat belts??
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    No. A multanova is only used to catch speeders. I've never heard of them used to catch anybody else. Imagine the thousands of photos that that have to be looked at to try and find someone not wearing a seatbelt or using a phone. It's bad enough trying to process all the speeders photos.
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    I have a mate that runs a speed camera and they can set off the flash whenever they want. The machines are calibrated else where, not while out on the job. The reason it happens is because they need to check the camera focus and adjust accodingly. He says he also does it to keep drivers in check (sorta put the wind up them) and just for ****s and giggles sometimes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fabz View Post
    He says he also does it to keep drivers in check (sorta put the wind up them) and just for ****s and giggles sometimes.
    lol funny bugger, very effective method to i'd imagine
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    ive copped 2 flashes speeding both times aswel never got fine thnk god ive been lucky though ive always sped past or overtakin som1 wen it goes off lol
    my luck will ruin out one day lets hope its not 2 soon

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    i was driving around town one night with 2 chicks, and i got flashed.... funny thing was i was stopped at a red light....yeah go figure... never heared anything about it though.

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    In WA, multinova's are calibrated at the techies depot or if it's required by the manufacturer, but they are still also set and tested on site just prior to going operational on the side of the road by the operator and this is usually seen done while they are holding a hand held radar, presumably testing the camera's radar against the hand held radar within tolerances.

    flashes can be set off by the operator at any time.

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    What mar-d-mac said. I've been flashed and went back and asked the operator why, that is exactly what he told me. The multanova is calibrated else where, but they still do onsite roadside checks to make sure it is accurate every time they set it up. If they don't they are open to litigation because then it can't be proven it is actually still accurate.


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    I have a mate that runs a speed camera and they can set off the flash whenever they want. The machines are calibrated else where, not while out on the job. The reason it happens is because they need to check the camera focus and adjust accodingly. He says he also does it to keep drivers in check (sorta put the wind up them) and just for ****s and giggles sometimes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joey_18 View Post
    ive copped 2 flashes speeding both times as well never got fine thank god ive been lucky though ive always sped past or overtakin som1 wen it goes off lol
    my luck will ruin out one day lets hope its not 2 soon
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    I need to ask this question.....
    What If I'm just going through an intersection under the speed limit and the car next to me is speeding past, the speed camera takes a shot (Flashes) and sees my car next to the speeder in the picture.
    The question is how do they tell which one is speeding??

    Obviously its not easy from still picture than a recorded video.

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    AttaBoy that happen to me i was doin around 50km/h n the speed limit was 60km/h he sped past me around 70k's n flashed and we were right next to each other, i neva got a fine so he copped it..

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    Quote Originally Posted by AttaBoy View Post
    I need to ask this question.....
    What If I'm just going through an intersection under the speed limit and the car next to me is speeding past, the speed camera takes a shot (Flashes) and sees my car next to the speeder in the picture.
    The question is how do they tell which one is speeding??

    Obviously its not easy from still picture than a recorded video.
    Attaboy, you'll find that yes the camera will detect a vehicle above the posted speed limit, but once the camera film is developed back at the office, if the picture shows two vehicles in the same frame, there is no follow up as it would be near impossible to prove beyond all reasonable doubt that one specific vehicle out of the two in the same frame was the one exceeding the speed limit.

    these cameras here in WA, and i presume in all other states/territories, cannot distinguish which one vehicle out of multiples is actually speeding on dual carriageways. although there is a new camera being tested that will be able to do just exactly this....i think it has to do with the type of radar band (radio wave length) that they operate under. they are very different to hand held laser speed detection devices, these are extremely accurate.

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    Ok thanks now I know, but I also thought that there are lane markings on the camera where each speed sensor focus on each lane for example if there are three lanes then there could be three speed sensors focused on each lanes.
    Each speed sensor could be identified by a number and that way the office people can tell which one was activated and therefore the car in that lane was speeding.

    Just a thought.

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    Nope, that is why the radar is angled to send it's detection waves across both lanes. The multanova has a fairly wide detection angle, it is different from a hand held, the hand held has a narrow beam that is aimed via a laser, when the operator looks through the view finder, where ever the red dot is, is where the detection beam is focused. A multanova just sends a wide arc out to cover both lanes (or however many lanes there are), and when ever it detects a speed above it's triggering point, the camera takes a photo.

    If you are going through an intersection and the camera takes a photo, you have run a red light, these are not speed cameras (not in WA anyway) and are triggered by the same sensors in the road that trigger the light changes. Once the light has turned red and a vehicle moves over the sensor, it triggers the camera, if you are already off the sensor when the light changes, it won't.
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    Attaboy, just as NAAF had said. the multinova's (WA) don't know what brand they are in your state, but here they have an wide ranging arch of sending out the radar waves. NAAF has pretty much hit the nail on the head, so i won't say anything further on that.

    i have heard there is a camera that will soon be developed or is being trialled that can detect coming and going veh's as well as multi lanes in the one unit. at the moment, police use two cameras back to back to get the going away, mostly for motorbikes. so it'll get all those idiots out there that boot it after going thru the camera whilst at the sped limit.

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