Warne vs Muralitharan

[minux]

Well in case nobody knows Muralia has come out and called Shane Warne a Miserable man. These comments come after Warne requested suspect actions be tested under match conditions rather than a lab where the results will differ.

Whats everyones thoughts on Murali?

For me, he is nothing but a chucker, when you watch his Lab action it resembles nothing to his match action. People go on about how great he is, but come on, how many wickets has he taken against quality sides? He has taken so many wickets against zimbabwe and Bangladesh which Australia play neither frequently.
For me Murali can only bowl in Sri - Lanka or against 2nd rate sides.


PS: I wish warney would just come back and play, now that he and ex wife have no chance he should do it. Test match last week was actually a let down without him, it seemed to miss that anticipation of what he could actually do.

[88GreenVN]

Murili = CHUCCA no question.

Lets make the rules to fit him so 15 deg is now the allowance.

He's a chucca - but the ICC needed the test cricket nations to have a chance against the power nations (not just Australia).

Darrel Hair for PM!! He called it first and stood by it!

Should add: Warnie put fear into most batsman around the world. Not too many made lots of runs against him.

And with all those girls around him - how could he be misarable

[1991_Vn2nV]

Yep, he's a tosser

[Skitz]

Who really gives a ff how he throws the ball.
It's a game,don't let it mess with your mind's people!.

[AttaBoy]

ICC accepts Murali, it their decision, they make the rules. If a player complies with their rules then the player is good as the others and is accepted to play cricket.

After all its just a game, Murali is something different, he is quite unique to the way he bowls, so get over it.

Sick and tired seeing all the bowlers bowling almost the same way, whether its spin bowl or fast bowl. Having someone different certainly make the game interesting and also more challenging for the batsmen.

[Torquen]

its just crap that the changed the rule to allow him 2 allow hime 2 bowl.

[nicko]

yeh agree with minux. chukka has taken so many wickets against B grade sides that could easily get smashed by my old high school team. warne is frequently refered to as the best spin bowler that the game has ever seen and these comments are made not only by Bill Laurie but every commentator who really appreciates the game.

[hsvpunk]

Warney should just shut the hell up.
Murali has been suspected of chucking for a while, and has done the the tests the ICC has given him, and he has passed all of them. Just leave him be.

Just because Murali is a better bowler than warney (in my eyes). And because he is going to beat warnies' test wicket record.

Wasnt brett lee suspected of chucking??? and same with Shoab Aktar???
I dont like chuckers in sports, but geeez, leave him be, he's done all the things the ICC has asked.

[*VOLATILE*]

I'm a budding cricketer myself and having bowled all types of deliveries (pace, off-spin, leg-spin), there is no doubt in my mind that Murali is a chucker. I have tried and tried again to bowl Murali type deliveries only to be told by friends that are umpires that I'm chucking. All this bull about his arm being too flexible. What a crock.

[88GreenVN]

Murili - the best ever - NOPE dont thing so.

He will have the most wickets in Test cricket soon - but he will always be know as the best "chucca" ever.

Warnie got people all over the world bowling spinners. And if you can bowl a flipper (I can in the back yard) it is not that easy to do let alone to the best batsman in the world day in day out. That Gatting ball was gold.

Murili has done nothing for the game. Once Murili has retired from the game he will slip away and be gone. He will never be seen as the best bowler in the world - ever. Not when you have the greats like Thommo and Lillie, Hadlde, ....Warnie, McGath...


I'll also say that Stuart MaGill is a better bowler that Murili.

I'll end by saying I have nothing against Murili as a person - he has conducted him self very well amongest all the problems his action has thrown up. He just chucs the ball and in cricket you bowl.

[Bravotwozero]

Well in case nobody knows Muralia has come out and called Shane Warne a Miserable man. These comments come after Warne requested suspect actions be tested under match conditions rather than a lab where the results will differ.

Whats everyones thoughts on Murali?

For me, he is nothing but a chucker, when you watch his Lab action it resembles nothing to his match action. People go on about how great he is, but come on, how many wickets has he taken against quality sides? He has taken so many wickets against zimbabwe and Bangladesh which Australia play neither frequently.
For me Murali can only bowl in Sri - Lanka or against 2nd rate sides.


PS: I wish warney would just come back and play, now that he and ex wife have no chance he should do it. Test match last week was actually a let down without him, it seemed to miss that anticipation of what he could actually do.

It surprises me that Murali would say something like that. I was under the impression that Warne & himself were good buddies.

I can understand Warnie's comments though. At least then the whole controversy could be laid to rest permanently.

[maginoodle]

i reckon he's passed all thier tests so let him be.
Theres no way he's the best bowler. Like its been said he has a lot of wickets against 2nd rate sides. Hell i could take a few of bangers wickets.

[AttaBoy]

There is no such thing as the 'best bowler', each bowlers is different and have different advantages and disadvantages.

Sick and tired of people saying best bowlers, best batsmen and so on...

One can be better than the other but there is no 'best one".

[Grommz]

warnes just jealous as murali will go past the 1000 wickets mark..

[Reaper]

Murali = chucker. No question about it.

Warne = Dumbass. To come out with those comments just at the time when his record is about to be broken is childish and immature. Many other commentators will fight the chucker battle for him ad-infinitum. He would have been far better served saying nothing and handling the in-evitable with grace.

Reaper

[Grommz]

exactly right it doesnt matter if hes a chucker or not simple fact is warney now looks like a 2 year old spoilt little brat that cant have his cake and eat it too..

[Grennan]

warnes just jealous as murali will go past the 1000 wickets mark..

Rubbish. Warney was one of the first people to say he would break the 1000, and said he was happy for him.

I think the argument that Murali is a chucker is a pretty valid one, he looks like he would be more at home playing baseball.

Regardless of where Murali got his wickets from and how much a chucker he is, Warney is the greatest. Watch this YouTube - Best of Shane Warne and deny it.

[88GreenVN]

simple fact is warney now looks like a 2 year old spoilt little brat ..

Soooo no change for Warnie then

[minux]

Murali = chucker. No question about it.

Warne = Dumbass. To come out with those comments just at the time when his record is about to be broken is childish and immature. Many other commentators will fight the chucker battle for him ad-infinitum. He would have been far better served saying nothing and handling the in-evitable with grace.

Reaper

Do you actually know the comments he come out with?

Seeing as it is obvious by your comments here is exactly what was printed in the Herald Sun

Speaking of Murali, I agree with Terry Jenner that he should be tested under match conditions. I'm sure he is sick of it all, but it would be well worth the exercise and hassle.
I think for his own peace of mind and everyone in world cricket, do the testing in the heat of battle -- a Test match. Surely the ICC, Sri Lanka and Murali would want that.

What exactly is bad about those comments?

Fact is, Warne is the greatest spin bowler ever seen in the history of cricket. How many Gatting style wickets has murali taken if any?
I would love to see him come out of retirement and play on, he is worth bums on seats at matches.

[Reaper]

What exactly is bad about those comments?

Nothing - except.... they are coming from Warne, especially with the record coming up. A better approach would have been along the lines of "I'll leave the debate over his action to others.....". They sound like a person who is clutching at straws.

Fact is, Warne is the greatest spin bowler ever seen in the history of cricket. How many Gatting style wickets has murali taken if any?
I would love to see him come out of retirement and play on, he is worth bums on seats at matches.

Gotta agree there. Shanes record on the field speaks for itself and he is truly one of the games greatest of greats.

Reaper

[wrx884]

Well in case nobody knows Muralia has come out and called Shane Warne a Miserable man. These comments come after Warne requested suspect actions be tested under match conditions rather than a lab where the results will differ.

Whats everyones thoughts on Murali?

For me, he is nothing but a chucker, when you watch his Lab action it resembles nothing to his match action. People go on about how great he is, but come on, how many wickets has he taken against quality sides? He has taken so many wickets against zimbabwe and Bangladesh which Australia play neither frequently.
For me Murali can only bowl in Sri - Lanka or against 2nd rate sides.


PS: I wish warney would just come back and play, now that he and ex wife have no chance he should do it. Test match last week was actually a let down without him, it seemed to miss that anticipation of what he could actually do.

Sorry minux but this is a pointless thread as soon as u posted this lol uve already said all that needs 2 b said pants down hahaha

[AttaBoy]

He created this thread so people can discuss and input their opinions. Not every one have the same opinion as minux.

[wrx884]

mayb not but they should

[Lumps of cheese]

Yes, he does have a unique "throwing" style doesn't he?
Warne has bowled against top sides alot more than mytyre so his record is second to none imo.

[YMY-88U]

IMO murali is a great bowler/chukka, whatever you want to call it, and it dosent bother me if he does surpass warnies record or go down as the 'greatest' ACCORDING TO STATS. but in my opinion and id say many other peoples opinions warnie will always be the greatest spin bowler to play the game.

i have played many seasons of backyard cricket with many wickets and runs under my belt, but whenever i try to do a 'murali' ball, it always seems to come out as a chuck which is why i am now a dedicated leg spin bowler. a couple years back i broke my bowling wrist while snowboarding and ever since i have never been able to straighten it out properly compared to my other hand and i tell you what, i reckon i can now spin the ball twice as much then before the break... hows this relate to murali vs warne i hear you say??

... well a fair few years back they showed on a coverage of the cricket how murali cannot fully straighten out his right arm the whole way, and me being a wrist/leg spinner cannot fully straighten out my wrist, dont ask me how it works or helps but it sure does improve your bowling, dont all go out and break your wrists now, it was just a freak accident that didnt heal properly, i might go out back now and perfect my wrong 'en.