Another embarrasment for holden

[Ripcell]

not good...

Top-selling Holden Commodore recalled | Herald Sun

[minux]

Embarrassment? I applaud companies for making this public. It should happen more often. It makes them look responsible.

[88GreenVN]

Safety first. Find a fault and fix it. Good on em I say.

[Grennan]

"The chances of this happening are very low but obviously we are erring on the side of caution and we are administering a recall of all (V6) VE and WM Commodores since the start of production.''

Sounds like it wasnt a huge problem and they are just being careful. Would you rather them not tell anyone and your engine bay becomes a bbq on the way to work?

[Low_VX_Taxi]

By the wording it sounds like it would take many years for this to occur (if ever) so Holden could have let it slide (would prob have been out of the warranty period), Im impressed they have risked their reputation to ensure the buyers safety!~~!~!~!

[Ripcell]

Embarrassment? I applaud companies for making this public. It should happen more often. It makes them look responsible.

yes i understand that, the actual recall isnt the embarrassing bit, but the fact that its the third recall of the ve range.

[Clutchy]

Embarrassment? I applaud companies for making this public. It should happen more often. It makes them look responsible.

I second this but I bet we wont hear the end of it from the ford ferals.

[Full Spectrum]

Chances of a BBQ, More chance of George bush saying he cheated in getting 128 in the IQ test.

1 year ago in the VP i got this petrol smell, The clamp had gone over it's used by date and you couldn't tighten it anymore, So it had to be replaced,
that's 15 years 300,000km+ on the car.

there's probably more chance of me dyeing this year then one of these engine bays going up in smoke, But only an idiot would ignore this.
And if one went up then it's a real embarrassment for holden, Which is why they are being responsible.

I'm sure the kids with plenty of pimples on other forums are typing away hard saying this is the country's biggest disaster since the rescission.

[Low_VX_Taxi]

~SIGH~ the media is already playing this up. "Holden recalling Ve commodore range due to risk of fire" mustve been a slow day news wise.......

[Astranomical]

I don't think its much of an embarassment, an embarassment would be if someone's Commo did go up, and they waited until then to release this information. I say good on 'em, really.

[Boonz]

its weird cos the VZ's have the same problem with the canister purge hose splitting and causing a fuel smell... which is the same purge hose that they are now moving on the VE's...
and trust me there is more than 3 recalls..... but more so with the first few thousand that were sold to the public

[jet_pilot]

i think it happen's with the first run of every new range
a fair few teething problem's with the vn and vr,vt,vy and now the ve
and let's not mention ford........EA anyone?
at least they have the ball's to admit it and fix the problem before the new headline's are HOLDEN BUILDING DEATH TRAPS!

[greenfoam]

They say 20 cars have allready had a leak, this early on that's alot so it really does need fixing

[50LTRv8]

i think it happen's with the first run of every new range
a fair few teething problem's with the vn and vr,vt,vy and now the ve
and let's not mention ford........EA anyone?
at least they have the ball's to admit it and fix the problem before the new headline's are HOLDEN BUILDING DEATH TRAPS!

Soap Box Time

I love it when holden people immediatly point the finger at the opposition to make their case look better. I am sorry but it is stupid.

Holden have been using this engine package for a while now (VZ) so why shouldn't the customer expect better engineering from holden.

Holden made it plainly clear that the billion dollar baby would take on the world in regards to bang for buck and quality. Now they are telling us that they have an issue with the VE using the same engine as the last model.

You would think that with all the testing that goes on that issues would be picked up sooner, or does that make us beta testers. I am sorry but this is unacceptable for something that carries my wife and kids.

People who look at the other brands as a defence make me sick because what if someone dies as a result of a major fault, not real good is it.

Don't get me wrong, I am not a FORD supporter, just sick of seeing the same mistakes in aussie built cars over and over.

50LTRv8

[CSP]

This is far from an embarasement. It should only be applauded. Media are a pointless part of society these days. There has been no fire...

This recall is nothing major. 19 out of over 86,000 have had the fault and none have caused a fire. That's less than 0.02% affected rate and 0.0% rate of fire from the problem. So statistically, there is hardly any risk of fire. But do the media care? No. They write whatever they want to generate any sort of controversy.

Personally, I reckon there would be plenty times where that sort of failure rate has been deemed acceptable. It's admirable that Holden put out a recall for something so minor.

This is preventative maintenence on Holden's part. And will cost them a f*ckload cause they pay dealers for the warranty work.

[Kikki]

Well done to Holden for being big enough to admit to its faults, BEFORE anyone was hurt. Far from embarrasment I recon.

[Emackulation]

Design faults happen, will only show after time....Good to see that they have picked up on it and are working to fix it ASAP. +1 Holden.

[Grennan]

Don't get me wrong, I am not a FORD supporter, just sick of seeing the same mistakes in aussie built cars over and over.

50LTRv8

Its not just aussie car builders. Every car has its problems, many people expect that their brand new car will come off the line perfect and its just not a realistic view. There are problems that are not found in testing and this is just one of those.

I dont want to bring Ford up again but i was reading up on the Ford GT the other day after seeing one here in town. Even an expensive supercar had its problems. Oil leaks from the main seal, faulty steering arms as well as hose problems. So to say its an embarassment for Holden to have a faulty hose where you may or may not be able to smell fuel is just plain stupid.

Its just not cars that have their first release batch problems, look at major companies such as Microsoft and their XBOX and XBOX 360. The first release of these products were riddled with problems that werent foreseen due to a limited time period in testing.

[bangers]

I stand by my philosophy of never buying the first model in a new series as they always seem to have problems. not just holden either. VN was crap, VT had numbers of problems now the VE. In ford the EA was crap, the AU had heaps of problems. Magna's were the same.

[Grennan]

I stand by that as well. With most products. There is always a period where most products are still weining out the issues. Hence why ive waited over a year to buy an XBOX 360, most of the issues have been indentified and well... hopefully resolved or looked at.

[Kikki]

In ford the EA was crap

OI! The FIRST series of EA was Crap...... The 1989 model.

[CSP]

Don't get me wrong, I am not a FORD supporter, just sick of seeing the same mistakes in aussie built cars over and over.

Vehicles get recalled all the time.

In the past 30 days, these vehicles have been recalled in Australia:
Ford Fiesta
Ford Transit
Ducati Hypermotard
Volvo XC90
Fiat Ducato (twice)
Ducati Tricolore
Honda CBR1000RR
Mercedes-Benz EvoBus
Dodge Avenger (twice)
Jeep Grand Cherokee
Jeep Commander
Chrysler Sebring
Honda TRX500 FA, FGA, FE & FM

[50LTRv8]

OI! The FIRST series of EA was Crap...... The 1989 model.

Yes the first EA was a pile of crap, thing is though if you look back at it, this was really FORDS fault, they tried to release a new car at the same time as a new engine package with not enough testing for either. I remember reading a review saying that the badges were falling off the car on the test drive which is kind of funny.

The thing is though, the thing that frustrates me is this, the falcon was known for brake disks that warp (brake shudder) and my ef had it too, so bad you could hardly hold onto the steering wheel. The widly used fix was to fit DBA long life rotors and bendix pads.

Now if the EA started in 89, and I still had this issue in 96, I know that the AU had huge issues with it aswell. This is 10 years of the SAME ISSUE.

Why couldn't ford see the damn obvious and fix the issue at hand, rather than depending on customers to buy aftermarket parts.

This issue with the VE is sort of the same, o.k., no fires yet but this engine is not brand new, it has been in previous model cars, there would be heaps of them with several thousands of KM on them, and after a billion dollars on developing a car, there teling us they can't hook up a fuel hose?

I know other car makers have issues, as I have stated before I am not brand biased here, just wishing that there was a little more quality inbuilt into the car.

50LTRv8

[bangers]

The thing is though, the thing that frustrates me is this, the falcon was known for brake disks that warp (brake shudder) and my ef had it too, so bad you could hardly hold onto the steering wheel. The widly used fix was to fit DBA long life rotors and bendix pads.

Now if the EA started in 89, and I still had this issue in 96, I know that the AU had huge issues with it aswell. This is 10 years of the SAME ISSUE.



50LTRv8

The problem wasn't just ford. It was wide spread. manufacturers of discs were going softer compound while pad manufacturers were going harder compound. what people didn't know at the time was to throw a set of ceramic pads in and it increased the life of the discs dramatically.

A lot of problems today with cars is due to out-sourcing. Mitsubishi are doing it right with their own stuff ie Nippon. Ford own a lot of european companies to get parts from but we have different climates here and our cars are probably heavier. Holden can't throw corvette parts in as the price of the cars would escalate.

I hope it's a problem they overcome quickly.

[xlr8_87]

isn't this old news? i swear this happened when it came out...