Ungrateful People

[minux]

Well as some of you are aware, i forfeited any annual leave over Xmas/New Year due to work load. I have no issue with this, i know the Boss appreciates it etc etc.

What has annoyed me is over this break i have been doing non standard work for a company while all 6 people from the same division(in one company we are contracted to, i was unaware all were on leave as it's a national division) take leave. This has involved quite a few trips to Melbourne, a load of data entry etc. What annoys me is while talking to one of the people on leave, i find out that the whole division is on annual leave. When i asked why, they simply responded because when else can we take leave(i thought there was 1 2months in the year). So i go on to say how i have been managing to do all their work to stop them being under pressure when they return and forfeited my annual leave to do this one persons job and had i known all were taking leave i would of taken time off to spend with my fiance before she starts her new job as we wont be able to take any leave for the next 12 months. The response to that was "Oh well, you should of thought of that before you agreed to help me out".

Just gets on my nerve that i offered to help one person, not 6, and that given the circumstances the person can't even be grateful for what is being done. I plan on advising said company that this national Role could easily be covered by 2 staff in 2 different states. See how they like that.

Anyone else had any ungrateful sods over the break?

PS: Sorry to whine, just ****es me off

[Kikki]

The only day's Craig had off was Christmas & boxing day. The other fellas at his work have only got back and are as lazy as they ever were. Craig is working heaps of over time and no-one else is. What annoys me is in the 4 years he has been there he has not had 1 chrissy off, the other blokes quickly jump in first to get there holidays when they know Craig has kids, you'd think they would work it out so he has some time with his family at least.

So while there all sitting back on there asses at home Craig is working late and wont make it home before the boys go to bed. Nice.

Some people can be so bloody selfish.

[AttaBoy]

At my work I do graphics design for a company but this lazy guy who is supposed to do accounting never finishes his job so I have to do accounting at the end of the day. If his finises his work and stop talking to other workers, I could go home earlier!

[knightwolf]

Try working with your father-in-law...NUF SAID....

[Kikki]

Hahah YOU win!

[Grennan]

The manufactoring company i used to work for has been losing work in a certain department (not where i worked, fabrication) the 2 months leading up to christmas our department Fabrication was busy and we struggled to finish on time.

The bosses refused to allow us to do overtime and we kept saying were not going to finish, this situation was made worse by them still accepting work while we were overhwelmed already. One month to go, they fire 2 casual Fabricators which makes the load massive. We started comming in ealrier, finishing later etc etc, and they started to pay us overtime very reluctantly, while we loved the pay we were working 12 hour days 7 days a week trying to get this new Geelong Train project out, which is pyshically and mentally draining.

We finished two days late and the bosses came down on us like a stack of bricks. We worked extremely hard, its hell in the fabrication rooms on the 35 degree days we were having and we worked as much as we possibly could, and they still had no thanks. To top it off, i was fired the next day along with 2 other guys from Fabrication.

[Emackulation]

The manufactoring company i used to work for has been losing work in a certain department (not where i worked, fabrication) the 2 months leading up to christmas our department Fabrication was busy and we struggled to finish on time.

The bosses refused to allow us to do overtime and we kept saying were not going to finish, this situation was made worse by them still accepting work while we were overhwelmed already. One month to go, they fire 2 casual Fabricators which makes the load massive. We started comming in ealrier, finishing later etc etc, and they started to pay us overtime very reluctantly, while we loved the pay we were working 12 hour days 7 days a week trying to get this new Geelong Train project out, which is pyshically and mentally draining.

We finished two days late and the bosses came down on us like a stack of bricks. We worked extremely hard, its hell in the fabrication rooms on the 35 degree days we were having and we worked as much as we possibly could, and they still had no thanks. To top it off, i was fired the next day along with 2 other guys from Fabrication.

Prolly a good thing that you got fired, who would wunna work for people who are reluctant to pay you for your hard work. **** em.

[Low_VX_Taxi]

Try working with your father-in-law...NUF SAID....

My wife is my boss.....

I worked christmas eve,day boxing day new years eve and day, ive only taken off 2 weeks in 3 years (honeymoon) I gave our staff 3 days off over xmas and did a double shift for all the above....Im also onsite 24hrs so I finish work and then go to work again..... then I have one of my mates who got 2 weeks off over xmas/new years (not taken from his annual leave but still paid) and gets saturday sunday off every week he comes to me and wingers how tired he is cause of and how hard his job is

[Spaced]

My wife is my boss.....

I worked christmas eve,day boxing day new years eve and day, ive only taken off 2 weeks in 3 years (honeymoon) I gave our staff 3 days off over xmas and did a double shift for all the above....Im also onsite 24hrs so I finish work and then go to work again..... then I have one of my mates who got 2 weeks off over xmas/new years (not taken from his annual leave but still paid) and gets saturday sunday off every week he comes to me and wingers how tired he is cause of and how hard his job is

lol

That's pretty harsh, I worked across christmas break except, christmas day, boxing day and new years. I don't mind as my boss worked it last year (2006) for me, and I had leave.

[Grennan]

Prolly a good thing that you got fired, who would wunna work for people who are reluctant to pay you for your hard work. **** em.

Well in that respects yes, there are better places out there. Just hard for me to find work... Want my dam Clubsport!!

[jet_pilot]

atm moment im meant to be on dayshift but since im casual ive been thrown around from nightfill to day back to night i get a call half an hour after getting home from 8 hour's at work saying can you come in tonight for 8 hour's ! i need the dosh and its good so i dont complain i did back to back yesterday from 8am - 4pm then from 8pm till 4 am
and i got called in this morning from 9 am till 2 pm and im on again from 8pm till 4am!
need sleep

[Not_An_Abba_Fan]

And yet you are on the net....

A lot of employers take advantage. You show initiative by doing extra work, and then your boss expects it. If you are getting paid to do the work, then your employer isn't really being ungrateful. You are paid to do a job and you are doing it. Putting your hand up for extra work is only letting your boss know you are willing to take it on.

[minux]

And yet you are on the net....

A lot of employers take advantage. You show initiative by doing extra work, and then your boss expects it. If you are getting paid to do the work, then your employer isn't really being ungrateful. You are paid to do a job and you are doing it. Putting your hand up for extra work is only letting your boss know you are willing to take it on.

Who is this post directed at exactly?

[Rishy]

i believe jetpilot

[jet_pilot]

im not working at the moment i rarley sleep maybe a couple hour's a week

[Not_An_Abba_Fan]

The first comment was, but the rest of it was to everyone in general. I know it doesn't relate to everyone, but if you agree to put in the extra effort, don't complain when it goes unnoticed or you don't get the appreciation you feel you deserve.

[minux]

The first comment was, but the rest of it was to everyone in general. I know it doesn't relate to everyone, but if you agree to put in the extra effort, don't complain when it goes unnoticed or you don't get the appreciation you feel you deserve.

Obviously you failed to read my post properly, otherwise you would have noticed i agreed to one persons work, not 6. That is where my problem lies, the fact this person knew about this and failed to mention anything. As i said, it was a whinge, i won't let my boss down, i will keep going, effectively through this i have found a way to save this company around 320k year, so it hasn't all been bad.

[Not_An_Abba_Fan]

Obviously you failed to read my post properly, otherwise you would have noticed i agreed to one persons work, not 6. That is where my problem lies, the fact this person knew about this and failed to mention anything. As i said, it was a whinge, i won't let my boss down, i will keep going, effectively through this i have found a way to save this company around 320k year, so it hasn't all been bad.

I read it correctly. Good on you for what you have done. I'm sure your superiors appreciated it. I realise you were having a whinge. My thoughts were directed at people who whinge about doing the job they are paid to do, even the overtime, but not having their arse kissed because they did it.

It goes to show that someone has a good work ethic if they work hard while others slack off. But why get any extra gratitude for expected performance? The job may require a certain level of productiveness, if you live up to that expectation but others don't, they should be berated, not you be thanked.

This sounds harsher than intended though.

[Torquative]

hey Minux, I know how you feel, I decided to stay on over Xmas so our department (all 2 of us) was at full strength, which was more then was needed, and got shafted too.

But what I was more ****ed off about was getting shafted by a 1st year apprentice over Bathurst.

3 months earlier I wrote up the leave application and gave it to *my direct boss* as per the guidelines, who okayed it. It then has to go to the general manager for his approval as he then looks at a holiday spreadsheet to make sure your type of situation doesnt happen where everyone in one department is off at the same time. We also have access to this spreadsheet (as a read only) to check, and when I checked it was clean for everyone in the company.

4 weeks later our 1st year put in his application for the same 2 weeks, which I knew about. Theoretically there shouldnt be a hassle anyway, my offsider said he's happy to run the place by himself ... its not like he'd miss the 1st year anyway.

Then a week after this I get called into the GM's office. "Can you make your holidays 2 weeks earlier or 2 weeks later?". I filled him in on why I couldnt, I had corporate tent tickets (at the Chase) which cost me an arm and a leg to get as a large motoring club group booking, plus the hospitality costs, I had accomodation for 7 days at Bathurst itself, from Wednesday to Wednesday.

I was doing them a favour by having the 2 weeks off because it'd take me close to a week afterwards to recover.

"Well no, such and such has also asked for those 2 weeks off".

I replied "yeh I know he's been bragging about how his "girlfriend" who he met on the internet but never in real life is coming down from QLD ... so tell him to change HIS plans ... I cant just change the Bathurst 1000 to suit his needs"

Anyway we had this all our argument because what happened was he gave his form to the GM direct, who okayd it immediately because no one else was taking leave.

Then the week after our direct boss gave my form to the GM. So by the time my form made it to his desk as far as he was concerned someone else from our department was having that time off, end of story.

We debated because my form had been initialled and okayed by our "direct boss" 5 weeks earlier. I followed the system, the 1st year didnt. Therefore his holidays should be void.

So it continued. I then had to have the week leading upto Bathurst off, and was expected to be back at work the following Tuesday! I wasnt expecting to be back in Sydney till Wednesday, so it wasnt going to work.

I still had to pay for the accomodation to make it fair on everyone, but I missed out on using it. I had to pack up and be back in Sydney by Tuesday morning

Oh and the 1st year? Well by the time Bathurst rocked around he had been moved to another department (franchise) so it had no effect on me or my offsider anyway. Oh and as kids do, he and his dream girlfriend "broke up" by email so that never even happened. Here I was battling on at work stuffed as anything from a huge weekend of motorsport, while he sat in his loungeroom watching hi 5.

Good to see tho that a 1st year apprentice has more rights in the place then I do

[crazyspoon05]

A mate of mine's hospitality business was grossly understaffed last week as nearly everyone had requested New Years Eve/New Years Day off and some had requested 3 weeks off over the busy period leading up to Christmas and up to NYE's

And then some of them had the gall to complain to him last week and this week when they aren't picking up any shifts while those who stood by him are getting extra shifts at the moment

[Low_VX_Taxi]

lol

That's pretty harsh, I worked across christmas break except, christmas day, boxing day and new years. I don't mind as my boss worked it last year (2006) for me, and I had leave.

I havent had chrissy off since I started working, neither have my folks so we usually get together a few days before or after.... just wish I wasnt salary and got penalty rates.... last year i did similar shifts and made a crapload of $$$ ahhh well least my line staff got to see their families

I read it correctly. Good on you for what you have done. I'm sure your superiors appreciated it. I realise you were having a whinge. My thoughts were directed at people who whinge about doing the job they are paid to do, even the overtime, but not having their arse kissed because they did it.

It goes to show that someone has a good work ethic if they work hard while others slack off. But why get any extra gratitude for expected performance? The job may require a certain level of productiveness, if you live up to that expectation but others don't, they should be berated, not you be thanked.

This sounds harsher than intended though.

I understand where you are coming from, I wasnt paid for the extra time, but I understand that the hours needed to be done and I REALLY wanted to reward the line staff for their hard work this year... Im juss having a sook, not really complaining Plus the staff were pretty refreshed and motivated when they returned so thats kinda like a reward

[VNexecutive]

the last week of work last year we had to complete 2 houselots of windows and doors (thats machined, prepared, knocked up and glazed), now while this was alot of work, it annoyed me how the scummers i work with left at 3:30 every day, and didnt even wanna work back till 4. i try and do the right thing by the boss, me and another 1st year apprentice both worked roughly 55 hours each in that week.. thats 15 hours overtime, for both 1st year apprentices its not a bad effort for a weeks work.. especially when trade qualified's and higher year apprentices couldnt do the same. as expected, two aprentices couldnt do all the work by ourselves, so the day after everyone knocked off for the year, i came back in and work again till past lunch time to get the frames finished and ready to be delivered. i just dont understand why people apply for jobs if they dont like doing the job, or putting in the extra hard yards to complete a few things.

the good news is the boss is laying off a few slackers at the start of the new working year. hooray! i cant wait.

[Full Spectrum]

I'd get onto the Union first thing Monday Morning.

[Bravotwozero]

The manufactoring company i used to work for has been losing work in a certain department (not where i worked, fabrication) the 2 months leading up to christmas our department Fabrication was busy and we struggled to finish on time.

The bosses refused to allow us to do overtime and we kept saying were not going to finish, this situation was made worse by them still accepting work while we were overhwelmed already. One month to go, they fire 2 casual Fabricators which makes the load massive. We started comming in ealrier, finishing later etc etc, and they started to pay us overtime very reluctantly, while we loved the pay we were working 12 hour days 7 days a week trying to get this new Geelong Train project out, which is pyshically and mentally draining.

We finished two days late and the bosses came down on us like a stack of bricks. We worked extremely hard, its hell in the fabrication rooms on the 35 degree days we were having and we worked as much as we possibly could, and they still had no thanks. To top it off, i was fired the next day along with 2 other guys from Fabrication.

Are you looking for a job? I'm an engineer for a sheetmetal fabrication company in Huntingdale and might have something if you're ineterested.

[andyman]

I'd get onto the Union first thing Monday Morning.

no offence but.... oh dear