Voice/Sound Recording... Whats the law?

[1991_Vn2nV]

Does anyone know what laws people and in particular businesses are bound by when it comes to not only recording video footage, but sound recording also?

Are you able to record public audio (i.e. people talking), or record employees conversations and listen to them and bring in disciplinary action for conversations deemed unnecessary by the employer?

This is without signing a declaration form, or using signage of any sort?

[Reaper]

I'd take professional legal advice on that one. It may vary from state to state. The way I understand it (in Vic) if the parties are in a public place it would be ok.

Reaper

[stocky]

I thought it was fine as long as one person in the conversation knows its being recorded

[Not_An_Abba_Fan]

You watch too much American TV...lol...

I would consult a solicitor.

[br14nh]

We have video recording at our work for security reasons. We are required to post signage that anyone coming onto the premises will be video recorded (obviously not in areas that breach privacy, such as change rooms & toilets), then by coming on site they are accepting that they will be recorded.

There is guidance available from Govt. law sites that spells out the requirements and permissible uses of surveillance - video and /or audio, even so, I think there might still be one or two grey areas that could only be tested in a court case. Have a look at the relevant acts & regulations, they are available for viewing and it doesn't hurt to be informed.

Cheers,
Brian

[Hot-Rod]

We have video recording at our work for security reasons. We are required to post signage that anyone coming onto the premises will be video recorded (obviously not in areas that breach privacy, such as change rooms & toilets), then by coming on site they are accepting that they will be recorded.

There is guidance available from Govt. law sites that spells out the requirements and permissible uses of surveillance - video and /or audio, even so, I think there might still be one or two grey areas that could only be tested in a court case. Have a look at the relevant acts & regulations, they are available for viewing and it doesn't hurt to be informed.

Cheers,
Brian

Agreed,

Usually you can't record someone without their prior knowledge and permisson.

[Spaced]

In Queensland you can record a conversation if you are part of it with or without their permission. I've checked this previously with a lawyer.

[minux]

Doink...

Recording conversations

Doink #2

http://www.legislation.sa.gov.au/LZ/...972.112.UN.PDF

[minux]

In Queensland you can record a conversation if you are part of it with or without their permission. I've checked this previously with a lawyer.

Spaced, while you can record a conversation you are a part of, you cannot play it back to anyone except those involved in the conversation. That is my understanding of it.

http://www.legislation.qld.gov.au/LE...sOfPrivA71.pdf

Almost all conversation and recording laws are the same Australia Wide.

[CSP]

Every Coles Express Service Station records video and voice of EVERYTHING that goes on at the counter.

[coolvxss]

Every Coles Express Service Station records video and voice of EVERYTHING that goes on at the counter.

And if you catch a cab they recored it aswell dont they?

[1991_Vn2nV]

Every Coles Express Service Station records video and voice of EVERYTHING that goes on at the counter.

Yeah so do Mobil Quix servo's which is where I work.

I was having a er..explicit..conversation about Paris Hilton with the guy from the bottle-o across the road from work the other night (like 1am) and I was given a Record of Conversation for what was said. The customer was also told off believe it or not. But there was nobody else in the store so I fail to see the harm.

I can understand them recording audio for robbery/hold up situations but now that I know they listen to my conversations with customers without my consent (nor the customers), I think it is being misused.

[JD]

^^^ Thats taking it a bit far... BB08, Mobil.

[Spaced]

Spaced, while you can record a conversation you are a part of, you cannot play it back to anyone except those involved in the conversation. That is my understanding of it.

http://www.legislation.qld.gov.au/LE...sOfPrivA71.pdf

Almost all conversation and recording laws are the same Australia Wide.

In Queensland some police have wrist watches that record conversations. They have been permitted in court as evidence.

[Spaced]

Yeah so do Mobil Quix servo's which is where I work.

I was having a er..explicit..conversation about Paris Hilton with the guy from the bottle-o across the road from work the other night (like 1am) and I was given a Record of Conversation for what was said. The customer was also told off believe it or not. But there was nobody else in the store so I fail to see the harm.

I can understand them recording audio for robbery/hold up situations but now that I know they listen to my conversations with customers without my consent (nor the customers), I think it is being misused.

I'd get in contact with a lawyer. Sounds like you have a case there hey.

[azkwazere]

it was my understanding that for something to be used as evidence it has to be either court ordered, ie. anything obtained with a warrent, or, consented goods. Ie. personal testification.


As far as i am aware, they need to inform you that your conversations are being recorded. Just like Video footage, if it wasnt an issue, why does EVERY phone call center inform you of possible recordings.

However, as said, consult a qualified legal advisor.

aZk.

[Spaced]

it was my understanding that for something to be used as evidence it has to be either court ordered, ie. anything obtained with a warrent, or, consented goods. Ie. personal testification.


As far as i am aware, they need to inform you that your conversations are being recorded. Just like Video footage, if it wasnt an issue, why does EVERY phone call center inform you of possible recordings.

However, as said, consult a qualified legal advisor.

aZk.

Remember a case a while ago where someone was stealing from the till. Manager put a camera in and the person won in court because they weren't advised they were being recorded. When I worked in retail I never stole anything or did anything wrong so it didn't worry me. I wasn't taped audibly though. That's bull****.

[CSP]

You'll find there is notice to all customers somewhere at every servo. Although I agree, it should only be reviewed in the even of a robbery or something. Ours was only used to try and work out drive offs and for the one hold up that happened when I worked there.

[Tom_1569]

My girlfriend works in safeway as a floor supervisor. Her boss told her hes been watching the survelience cameras and she does not work hard enough. The other stuff this boss has done was bought it in another thread, but hes just a young bloke high on his little power. But i cannot see how he is allowed to use store survelience to black mail workers into working harder then they already do. He also said: "Remeber I'll always be watching". Hes the biggest tosser and has everyone scared. POWER TRIP.

[stocky]

My girlfriend works in safeway as a floor supervisor. Her boss told her hes been watching the survelience cameras and she does not work hard enough. The other stuff this boss has done was bought it in another thread, but hes just a young bloke high on his little power. But i cannot see how he is allowed to use store survelience to black mail workers into working harder then they already do. He also said: "Remeber I'll always be watching". Hes the biggest tosser and has everyone scared. POWER TRIP.

so hes admitted that he spends all his time at work watching tv/cameras. report him to higher management for not doing his job

[1991_Vn2nV]

You'll find there is notice to all customers somewhere at every servo. Although I agree, it should only be reviewed in the even of a robbery or something. Ours was only used to try and work out drive offs and for the one hold up that happened when I worked there.

Nah there is no signage what so ever for the audio.

There is a "Video Surveillance In Operation" sticker on the front window, but that is all.

[Tom_1569]

so hes admitted that he spends all his time at work watching tv/cameras. report him to higher management for not doing his job

LOL, ill tell me G/f that, though she wont do it caus he has em all scared, she will get a laugh out of it.