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    A BABY girl has died and her mother is in hospital after a car crashed into their house in Thornlie. Witnesses say the driver tried to escape on foot.

    It is understood the young mother was walking to her letterbox when she and her baby were struck down.

    Sergeant Dianne Simpson said a 24-year-old Perth man, who was earlier seen speeding in Thornlie, in Perth's southeast, clipped a car being driven by an elderly woman about 12.50pm today.

    "He has then spun out of control and run into the side of a house,'' Sgt Simpson said.

    Major Crash investigators were questioning the man tonight.

    Sgt Simpson said the mother was understood to have been outside the house with her 12-month-old daughter.

    The Holden Monaro struck them before hitting the brick wall of a neighbouring house.

    The baby and her mother were taken to hospital in separate ambulances, and the baby was pronounced dead on arrival, police said.

    The mother suffered minor injuries including cuts and abrasions.

    Sgt Simpson said the driver of the car was arrested at the scene.

    It appears that two cars collided at the T-junction intersection of Prion St and Berehaven Ave about 1pm, with one of vehicles careering through the front garden into the carport of a house in Berehaven Ave.

    Early reports indicate the mother is her 20s and the baby was less than one year old.

    The mother was in hospital in a stable condition.

    Neighbour Lee Van Dongen told PerthNow he heard screeching on the road and ran out of his house to see a red car racing up behind a yellow car that was trying to turn right.

    "The red car went out of control and careered into the car port .

    "He was going fast, bloody fast. I saw the driver of the red car get out and walk over and look at the baby and then has just legged it and ran away,'' Mr Van Dongen said.

    A St John Ambulance chaplain counselled distraught paramedics who attended.

    The Seven Network said tonight that witnesses to the crash had raced to the house, where they found the badly injured baby girl.

    ``When they got there they found the baby with terrible injuries, we're told terrible head injuries, and a pile of bricks at the front door of this house,'' Seven Network reporter Grant Taylor said.

    ``The mother was injured herself and people tell us they just heard her screaming: `Where's my baby, where's my baby?', at that stage unaware of exactly what had happened to her.''

    Mr Taylor said local residents had chased the driver, tackled him to the ground and held him until police arrived.

    Sgt Simpson said the driver was arrested at the scene.
    From Baby dies in horrific house crash in Thornlie | PerthNow

    This lady is a friend of my sisters, she has just moved here from over east to make some more money. Her little girl was to turn 1 on May 11th. It was their only child.

    I have been told it looks like this guy could face 3 years jail.... WOW.

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    thats sad. what kind of street was it? like, a 50 zone, and what was the driving doing to cause that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christie View Post
    From Baby dies in horrific house crash in Thornlie | PerthNow

    This lady is a friend of my sisters, she has just moved here from over east to make some more money. Her little girl was to turn 1 on May 11th. It was their only child.

    I have been told it looks like this guy could face 3 years jail.... WOW.
    That is just a tragic senseless loss!!!
    I Feel deeply for the families involved.

    Even if he does get 3 years ( which unfortunately he probably wont) it will not be enough for that family as they will live with that loss for their whole life.

    I hope his A-Hole gets plundered daily by some blokes named "BUBBA" and "CHOPPER!"

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    How did Mr Lee Van Dongen hear screeching and then see the 'red car' racing up behind the 'yellow car'. The two contradict each other.
    Although it is a very sad thing to happen, it is a very one sided article with no facts at all, so I will reserve judgment until such time there is facts.
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    Amazing how yet again another elderly person was involved in this accident in one way or another.

    the second a younger person in a V8 is involved they are the ones instantly at fault.

    Will wait for the police report on this one...so many times you hear witnesses saying they were going so fasssst yet the reports show they were doing the speed limit or just over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stocky View Post
    thats sad. what kind of street was it? like, a 50 zone, and what was the driving doing to cause that?
    That section is either 50-60kms, hubby read on another article the car went airborne, so he was flying. Literally.

    He went over and seen the child, then ran. I hope that image of that innocent baby lying there all battered and bruised remains burnt in his mind for the rest of his life.

    Apparently the mother is "fine" health wise with a few bruises & scratches but heavily sedated. So horrible. Why cant people ****ing think!

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    Quote Originally Posted by minux View Post
    Amazing how yet again another elderly person was involved in this accident in one way or another.

    the second a younger person in a V8 is involved they are the ones instantly at fault.

    Will wait for the police report on this one...so many times you hear witnesses saying they were going so fasssst yet the reports show they were doing the speed limit or just over.
    was thinking the same thing. details are very sketchy, and im guessing the driver panicked and ran. more details will be good

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    Quote Originally Posted by stocky View Post
    was thinking the same thing. details are very sketchy, and im guessing the driver panicked and ran. more details will be good
    Which would be quite understandable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AirStrike View Post
    Which would be quite understandable.
    maybe he ran to get help, i dunno. we need more details

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    Quote Originally Posted by stocky View Post
    maybe he ran to get help, i dunno. we need more details
    Nope he ran because he knew what he had just done. Accidents happen yes but a Monaro - in the air - he's a gonner for sure. If you are driving in a 50-60 zone you can stop easy if not embedded in the car in front of you.

    He was speeding.... Dont need a "Official" report on this one people.

    Sad loss for so many and I bet if he could have his time over he would save the speeding for the drag strip or open road.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 88GreenVN View Post
    Nope he ran because he knew what he had just done.
    how do you know?

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    He was speeding.... Dont need a "Official" report on this one people.
    once again, how do you know?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stocky View Post
    how do you know?


    once again, how do you know?
    Yeah I have to agree, he may have ran because he was in shock. As for speeding, says who? The old bloke over the road because his car was loud or some other crap the elderly make up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 88GreenVN View Post
    Nope he ran because he knew what he had just done. Accidents happen yes but a Monaro - in the air - he's a gonner for sure. If you are driving in a 50-60 zone you can stop easy if not embedded in the car in front of you.

    He was speeding.... Dont need a "Official" report on this one people.

    Sad loss for so many and I bet if he could have his time over he would save the speeding for the drag strip or open road.
    Ive seen a car get airborne and thrown upside down when a car pulled out in front of it, the car that was hit and ended upside down was doing 60...

    It is a sad loss, but before judgement is passed, its best to wait for the truth. Amazing thing is, when the truth comes out if it isn't the "hoon" at fault you barely hear about it. The last media sensationalised story in where someone was killed by a hoon driver disappeared quick when it was found that the person that was killed had turned in front of a car doing 80 km.h in a 80 km/h zone...funny that.
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    vtech just kicked in y0?


    it is sad. but really old people cause accidents by taking far too long to get through intersections, failing to indicate, and they cut people off alot because they're not allways fully aware of whats going on, id say a combination of that and a idiot driver...

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    The 24-year-old driver will appear in court next week on charges of dangerous driving occasioning death, dangerous driving occasioning bodily harm, and driving under the influence of alcohol.
    Not only was the ******** speeding but also drinking, the accident happened just before 1pm.

    The 24-year-old driver of the vehicle tried to run from the scene but was apprehended by neighbours of the injured woman.
    "Police have also told us that the young driver has had a bit of a look around, seen what's happened, he's a bit shaken up and the next thing you know he bolts, he runs straight off down the road,'' Mr Taylor said.

    "A few of the local residents who had come out and were watching saw this and they've chased him for about 500 metres and they've tackled him to the ground and held him until the first police car arrived.''

    Neighbour Lee Van Dongen told PerthNow he heard screeching on the road and ran out of his house to see a red car racing up behind a yellow car that was trying to turn right.

    "The red car went out of control and careered into the car port ," he said.

    "He was going fast, bloody fast. I saw the driver of the red car get out and walk over and look at the baby and then has just legged it and ran away."

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    Over the years of seeing damaged cars all day every day, talking at length about accidents and how they happen with panel beaters and police. Being involved in many crashes too. If he was travelling at 50 or 60 and hits a car flies through the air and and hits a house - you need more speed that 50 or 60kph simple. They report screeching of tyres before the hit. So he get the Monaro airbourne from say 25kph. Dont thinks so.

    Yes he ran from shock no doubt. Anyone would be in shock - but to run implies some level of guilt. What was he guilty from - having an accident - no, he was guilty of driving too fast of not watching the road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christie View Post
    Not only was the ******** speeding but also drinking, the accident happened just before 1pm.
    who can prove he was speeding?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 88GreenVN View Post
    Over the years of seeing damaged cars all day every day, talking at length about accidents and how they happen with panel beaters and police. Being involved in many crashes too. If he was travelling at 50 or 60 and hits a car flies through the air and and hits a house - you need more speed that 50 or 60kph simple. They report screeching of tyres before the hit. So he get the Monaro airbourne from say 25kph. Dont thinks so.
    read the article carefully. the neighbour said he heard screeching brakes, so he went outside, to see the car "speeding" and then hitting. now, that would mean that the guy giving the report must be able to move at the speed of light to get outside fast enough to see the accident, if the screeching occured immediately before that accident as youre implying, when he was still inside

    Quote Originally Posted by 88GreenVN View Post
    Yes he ran from shock no doubt. Anyone would be in shock - but to run implies some level of guilt. What was he guilty from - having an accident - no, he was guilty of driving too fast of not watching the road.
    maybe he had no phone on him and ran to get help from somewhere? or saw the lynch mob after him and ran for help?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christie View Post
    Not only was the ******** speeding but also drinking, the accident happened just before 1pm.
    Where is this info from?
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    Neighbours tackled the man, which means NO he wasn't running to get help, help was already there. I understand though, shock and all, I think anyone would run.

    There had been earlier reports of this car speeding throughout other areas in Perth, the police had been called about a Red Monaro speeding and weaving through traffic along Albany highway, could be another car? possible. But I am pretty sure the charges etc and police media reports so far, yes he was speeding & drinking.

    Check out this link.... The Monaro was airborne for 12 metres!
    http://www.police.wa.gov.au/Portals/...aven%20Ave.pdf

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    OK OK he was not speeding then. He was just driving nomally and some how hit a car jumped a wall/fence smashed into a house and kill a baby. The report may be wrong.

    Baby is still dead - Car still hit a house. He still ran from the accident.

    Baby aint comming back and he will get years in the slammer.

    That bit wont change.

    (he really probably almost certainly with out doubt was driving a wee bit too fast for his ability then) Just maybe. hmmm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Christie View Post
    Neighbours tackled the man, which means NO he wasn't running to get help, help was already there. I understand though, shock and all, I think anyone would run.
    like i said. angry mob = run like hell
    Quote Originally Posted by Christie View Post
    There had been earlier reports of this car speeding throughout other areas in Perth, the police had been called about a Red Monaro speeding and weaving through traffic along Albany highway, could be another car? possible.
    nah holden only released 1 red one. mustve been speeding cause it was red and red cars go faster.

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    Well, after reading that police report I think it sheds a bit mroe light on the situation. Very sad to see this happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mack View Post
    Well, after reading that police report I think it sheds a bit mroe light on the situation. Very sad to see this happen.
    I find it hard to believe a car doing 50-60kms would be airborne for 12 meters. Terrible loss, huge horrible mistake that yet another idiot driver will have learn the hard way.

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