So Rudd has decided to make even more money from us, by charging us $1 more for every can or bottle of any premixed drink that we buy, thats... Well, its a hell of a lot of money for them, an ill bet we dont see it go to any REAL benefit, so stupid preventative health system or something, it would be better used to help reduce fuel prices, or to fix our roads properly, or maybee some other usefull idea, and to add insult to injury, they did it to us WITHOUT even a minutes warning, i was planning on having a few drinks tonight to celebrate my mates daugter being born, but now, i what i could get for 16, will cost me 22, so now i have to buy 3 cans less or so, which is no funI think the Coca Cola Co. is gonna start makin some more money outta me, ill be gettin bottles of drink, and mix it myself, im not gonna give the government anymore of my hard earned $$ than i have to
Last edited by Bilbs; 27-04-2008 at 10:27 PM. Reason: removed swear filter dodge - sorry
Beer FTW!!!!!?
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It's not just the government, a couple of the large manufacturers have decided to stop making some types of pre-mixed drinks as well (mostly the high alcohol ones) as the young underage drinkers were unfortunately the biggest market for the drinks
The cost of pre-mixed drinks rises with every CPI increase but your local bottle-o, club or pub usually absorbs one or two CPI increases
You are much better off mixing your own anyway, especially with the quality of the mixers the manufacturers use being below the standard of the name brand products like Schweppes, Coke, etc
If ignorance is bliss why aren't there more happy people around ?
I don't drink regulary, so i couldn't give a Fryer Tuck. If it means i'll pay an extra $1 per few cans of a pre mixed drink on the odd occasion i do drink, so be it. I'm not gonna whinge, it's not going to do anything, so i'll save my breath.
Originally Posted by wikky
I drink beer and wine. I couldn't give a ...
It might reduce the incidence of underage drinking too, bah. Who cares.
Exactly. I hate to sound ignorant or just plain stupid here, but i couldn't give a **** about underage drinking. Some parents need to enforce a little more disipline (sp?), and bottle shops should be checking I.D more often. I know those 2 things are only 2 of many ways kids can get alcohol etc, but my sister turned 18 last week, and she looks alot younger than 18, for her birthday, she went to an Irish Bar at Knox city down here in Melbourne, she didn't get asked for I.D on entry, nor at the bar.
After that she wanted to test a bottle shop with her friends and went inside and bought a single UDL, they didn't ask her for I.D either. And believe me, my sister looks like she is about 14.
Originally Posted by wikky
Underage drinking is a problem but making it for expensive wont do **** all. Make the grog stonger and cheaper so more of these little fairies get liver damage. People dont learn by hearing how bad something is, they learn when their best mate is dead becuase they drank too much. Toughen up, pay more for your booze!
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What a load of crap. They are kidding themselves if they think this is going to fix the prob.
Australia. Love it or leave it
good, premixed drinks taste like puss anyway.
Originally Posted by cobez
i was caught a bit of this on tv today and from what i heard theres been a huge increase in underage drinking 14-18 with girls drinking more than the boys.
apparently this started happening back in about 2000 when the gst was introduced.
the lady doing the interview (forget her name) was going on about how reaserch shows that young people dont have much cash especially the ones in the above age ranges and therefore buy these premixed drinks cos theyre cheaper.
i dont really drink much so i tdosent bother me at all and if it actually does something to stop underage drinking im all for it.
How about fixing the real issue and coming down on bars/establishments selling alcohol to people who are already under the influence or selling to those under age. So sick of society today trying to band aid fix everything by charging more. A few people screw it up so lets punish everyone...got to love that philosophy.
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PRODUCTION of ready-to-drink alcoholic drinks, preferred by many teenagers, is growing faster than other alcoholic beverages, prompting concern from drug and alcohol researchers.
Bureau of Statistics figures show 16 million litres of pre-mixed spirits, such as Bacardi Breezer, were made last year. This was an increase of 9 per cent on 2005. In the same time, beer and wine quantities rose just over 1 per cent.
Jan Copeland, of the National Drug and Alcohol Research Centre, said the growth in ready-to-drink products was a worry because many young people were attracted to them. Last year a study by the centre found the products were the most common first drink for teenagers, and 73 per cent of 14- to 15-year-olds thought Bacardi Breezer was marketed to them.
"We found young people didn't particularly like the taste of alcohol as such, but milky alcohol drinks and ready-to-drinks increased their likelihood to try those beverages."
The federal Health Department's alcohol strategy, released last month, identified the role of pre-mixed drinks in alcohol abuse by 15- to 17-year-olds, particularly among girls. "Among females consuming alcohol at higher-risk levels, there was a significant shift to pre-mixed spirits/liqueurs, from 21 to 78 per cent, while the proportion drinking other beverage categories declined."
But the minister with responsibility for drugs and alcohol, Christopher Pyne, said greater availability of the drinks was not a reason for concern on its own.
"These statistics in my view do not not reflect a growth in alcohol abuse, but rather changes in … preferences."
The executive officer of the National Council on Drugs, Gino Vumbaca, said pre-mix drinks were "adult products and should only be promoted at avenues and at times when adults can see them".
I was going to say what difference to anyone would the extra $1 be, but if it means Bilbs is buying less grog then the plan is obviously working to some degree.
If people want to drink they will still drink. I don't think this is the answer.
This is where the National ID card would be great. All tobacco and alcohol purchases must be accompanied with a swipe of the ID card. Failure for the ID card to acknowledge age means it can't be sold and could be recorded. This could then be reconciled against bought and sold etc and shut down dodgy operators seeling to minors or people buying alcohol to supply minors(such as owners or workers of stores purchasing for friends etc)
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its not a buck per few cans, its $1 extra for EVERY can, so a 6 pack costs $6 more than it did, to me, that is an unjustifiable increase, all it means, is that ill skip the convienence of buying a 6 pack of cans, and just buy a bottle of bundy, and some coke or something to mix it with, but the cans are so more convienent, no need to get glasses to drink it out of, and the big plus to getting cans, is that the drinks dont get stronger as you get more and more hammered, its either that or ill go back to my beer drinking phases, instead of just fri nights after work lol, but to be honest, i dont think this will fix the under age drinking problem, coz most of the u/a ppl i know dont pay for what they drink anyway, is usualy a case of them getting it from a friend for money that is owed to them, or for work that they have done, or something like that
News to me, is there an article or something?
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Originally Posted by Commydoor
Nicola Roxon - ninemsn Video
found the vid
What a ****ing joke. I reckon its going to make teenage drinking WORSE...
I prefer premix burbon to straight, purely as the mix is always the same. You can only physically drink so many jimmy cans as the coke makes you bloated which limits your alcohol intake.
Last night i was mixing my own drinks, by 6am this morning i rekcon the mix was 80% burbon, 20% coke (mostly as i ran out of coke)... More drunk you get the stronger the mix.
With prices increasing, rather than buying a 6 pack of cruisers, you could buy a cheap bottle of vodka. So the drinks will be stronger and less controlled.
****ing terrible idea.... ****ing useless
Yep, its a known fact, the % of alc in mix urself drinks rises in an direct proprtion to your BAC, or the time on the clock as shops shut and you run outta coke, and other than that, if they cant afford udl or what ever, they will buy beer, or wine, and if they realy dont like them, they will just go and do drugs instead, which is soooo much worse, well done Cruddy Ruddy, you just wrecked the country a lil bit more
did security at a 16th party a few weeks back. The rule was 2 drinks a person (i know a 16th, what the hell has the world come to when your saying you can bring **** to a 16th) and there was about 250 people at the house. I would have to say about 30-40% of these kids took pills that night simply becuase we said not much booze. $20 for an eccy pill and a 16year old will be pinging off their head rather than $30 for some booze. You cant win with underage drinking.
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i think it's a good thing, those pre mixed alcopops were designed to get younger kids drinking alcoholic based drinks without the bite that standard spirits have. they are to easy to drink in my opinion, some just taste like sports drinks etc. it's direct marketing at teenagers. i don't drink so i don't see a problem at all
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Pfft, sif people will stop buy alcohol for minors. It works so well...
"He mate, you 18?"
"Yeah..."
"Buy us some booze and this $10 is yours"
Kids get booze, "adult" gets paid... Every one is happy.
No ID card, no taxes, no laws are gonna stop this. STOP TRYING!
All those commenting on people selling to already drunk people, well, maybe slabs shouldnt be so big... lets make a slab 6 cans, can get to smashed off that.
Minux, you said youself about your ****ed bathurst thing with the esky full of grog and you jsut keep drinking till the end... your all too ****ed to regulate how much each other drinks there...
People will always be able to buy large quantitys of booze... Then they can do what they like with it. Kids will always eb able to get grog, then do waht they like with it.
To be perfectly honest, all non-recreational alcohol (wines, light beers and champane) should all be banned. Whats the point of them? to get people to do alot of things they wouldnt do normally sober, decrease the general health of australia?
Dont give me that "i drink to have fun with mates!" If you cant have fun with your mates without the need of booze, go top yourself now, your a waste on society.
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