fibreglass bonnets has anyone got one?

[maginoodle]

Hi, i am thinking of putting a fibre glass bonnet on my crewy due to needing another bonnet. Has anyone dealt with these people? Monaro bonnet to suit VY - eBay Body Kits, Exterior, Car Parts, Accessories, Cars, Bikes, Boats. (end time 01-Jun-08 19:02:00 AEST)
Or does anyone know of a similar type bonnet around the same price.
Cheers Shane

[Cobez]

God i hate fibreglass. But then again, it's very expensive getting a custom bonnet made up from sheetmetal. Fibreglass just cracks after a while, it can't take the constant shock of road bumps etc. All bodykits, bonnets etc crack after a while.

[Tom_1569]

God i hate fibreglass. But then again, it's very expensive getting a custom bonnet made up from sheetmetal. Fibreglass just cracks after a while, it can't take the constant shock of road bumps etc. All bodykits, bonnets etc crack after a while.

Agreed, also thought fibreglass panels (inlcuding bonnets) were illegal for street use.

[BANKS]

Agreed, also thought fibreglass panels (inlcuding bonnets) were illegal for street use.

Theres a couple that have got ADR approval, but they charge more for em.

HOLDEN COMMODORE VZ
BLITS style vented bonnet
with transport approval $770

[jules]

panels aren't generally considered integral to the crash structure of the vehicle body, i'd be surprised if you got defected for fitting fibreglass ones.

the biggest issue is their lack of durability.

[NORTI]

Sir Calais has one on NUFNSUS, been through Regency in SA 4 times for full inspection, they have no problem with it as it has the bracing underneath, but rules can differ from state to state

[AttaBoy]

Aren't they more dangerous in a front end collision? Due to the splintering instead of bending like metal?

[jules]

splintering shouldn't harm anyone. carbon fibre would do the same thing, there are production cars with that material now.

[HSVGTS E2]

If you want fiber glass bonnet's you can get them but there only made for off street use only... say drag racing or on a race track or rallying so there's no point unless it's for racing. But you can get them don't know how much tho must be alot of $$$ but there only for off road use unless you take the risk and get away with it any way personally id'e only get one if i had a race car and had the extra $$$ LOL.

[Shounak]

Aren't they more dangerous in a front end collision? Due to the splintering instead of bending like metal?

Apparently fibre glass bonnets snap (and slightly splinter) instead of bending like a steel bonnet on impact. I've heard people say that pedestrians are less likely to get hurt with a steel bonnet because there are no sharp bits.

If you hit a pedestrian that hard, I don't think they could tell the difference.

Base your decision on the structural integrity of a glass bonnet and whether it's worth potentially having your insurance invalidated or Mr. Plod bending you over.

[1991_Vn2nV]

Providing your insurance company are informed there is no issue as they are legal provided they have the bracing underneath.

[HSVGTS E2]

Yeh well thats up to the insurance company's but i think there's no point unless you have a race car/ drag car / or rally car to make quicker lap times on a race track but that would be one of the last things on your mind when racing car's. with all respect off course.

[1991_Vn2nV]

Yeh well thats up to the insurance company's but i think there's no point unless you have a race car/ drag car / or rally car to make quicker lap times on a race track but that would be one of the last things on your mind when racing car's. with all respect off course.

WTF does racing have to do with a monaro bonnet?

[greenfoam]

Speaking of light panels, if anyone has some VN/P panels off a car at the moment could they jump on a scale with them a tell me how much the panels weigh. But don't tell Reaper what I'm up to

[Tom_1569]

Speaking of light panels, if anyone has some VN/P panels off a car at the moment could they jump on a scale with them a tell me how much the panels weigh. But don't tell Reaper what I'm up to

Every Panel?
Ill do them all except bonnet (cant do that on my own) and the rear doors i have sititng here are station wagon, oh doors are stripped to if that matters/

[BANKS]

Theres a couple that have got ADR approval, but they charge more for em.

HOLDEN COMMODORE VZ
BLITS style vented bonnet
with transport approval $770

If you want fiber glass bonnet's you can get them but there only made for off street use only... say drag racing or on a race track or rallying so there's no point unless it's for racing. But you can get them don't know how much tho must be alot of $$$ but there only for off road use unless you take the risk and get away with it any way personally id'e only get one if i had a race car and had the extra $$$ LOL.

Reeeeaaaddddd...

[Cheap6]

Speaking of light panels, if anyone has some VN/P panels off a car at the moment could they jump on a scale with them a tell me how much the panels weigh. But don't tell Reaper what I'm up to

Rear (VP) sedan doors, just the shell (no bailey channels, door moulds etc.) = 13kg.

Front (VP) sedan doors, just the shell = 17kg.

I can tell you the weight of glass, manual window winders, executive door moulds, central lock motor and latch etc. if you wish but not off the top of my head.

[NORTI]

Providing your insurance company are informed there is no issue as they are legal provided they have the bracing underneath.

Shannons are fine with it

[Low_VX_Taxi]

In an accident it won't crumple the same as a metal bonnet, thus it won't absorb the impact, and as it doesn't match the original factory item it will require engineering. As far as I am aware some suppliers supply an engineers cert. with their bonnets but probably best to ask your local motor registry, because as with every law in Aus. it will vary state to state......

I think we have talked about this before VN2NV lol

[jules]

panels are not considered a part of the vehicle crash structure. they are attached by spot welds or with bonnets, hinges and have negligible strength in comparison to integral components - principally the steel body (the monocoque, not the sheet metal panels), chassis rails and major items such as the engine.

that doesn't guarantee some cop wouldn't ping you on the roadside though.

[Cheap6]

panels are not considered a part of the vehicle crash structure. they are attached by spot welds or with bonnets, hinges and have negligible strength in comparison to integral components - principally the steel body (the monocoque, not the sheet metal panels), chassis rails and major items such as the engine.

that doesn't guarantee some cop wouldn't ping you on the roadside though.

So you are say that it doesn't take any energy to bend a bonnet or crush front guards? The panels are definitely part of the energy dissipation and distribution system of the car in a crash. A lesser part than the rails and inner guards, perhaps.

Is a composite part better or worse than a steel part? It's not necessarily either, but it is different. It's not just the energy absorbtion either, it's possible on some designs (not necessarily Commodore) that a stiff bonnet that stays flat may go through the windscreen and into the car.

[1991_Vn2nV]

In an accident it won't crumple the same as a metal bonnet, thus it won't absorb the impact, and as it doesn't match the original factory item it will require engineering. As far as I am aware some suppliers supply an engineers cert. with their bonnets but probably best to ask your local motor registry, because as with every law in Aus. it will vary state to state......

I think we have talked about this before VN2NV lol

lol yeah I thought I was getting dejavu...

[jules]

So you are say that it doesn't take any energy to bend a bonnet or crush front guards? The panels are definitely part of the energy dissipation and distribution system of the car in a crash. A lesser part than the rails and inner guards, perhaps.

that's true but the question is how much effect they have. i'd reckon not much. the americans did some testing on this and found that a car without panels was as safe as one with them fitted.

Is a composite part better or worse than a steel part? It's not necessarily either, but it is different. It's not just the energy absorbtion either, it's possible on some designs (not necessarily Commodore) that a stiff bonnet that stays flat may go through the windscreen and into the car.

anything's possible i suppose. until you do validation testing you don't know for sure.

[BANKS]

panels play a part in pedestrian impacts aswell. I'd rather be hit by a metal bonnet then a fibreglass one. If i had a choice lol

[Low_VX_Taxi]

panels play a part in pedestrian impacts aswell. I'd rather be hit by a metal bonnet then a fibreglass one. If i had a choice lol

Bull bars ftl