Suspended license questions!

[Noy]

Hey, as many of you know I lost my license 1month ago now.. anyway I handed my license in to vicroads on the 28th of april, they sent me a letter in the mail yesterday saying I have 2 options (3months suspended license) or the 12 month no points thing.

This is where I get confused.. 3 month suspension of your driver license will commence on 29th June.. You must return your drive license permit to vicroads within 7 days after the commencement date of your suspension.

I handed in my license on the 28th of april as I was disqualified from driving for 1 month which ends tomorrow.... so do I get my license back for 1 month, then hand it back in on the 29th?

Cheers

[Not_An_Abba_Fan]

Talk to vicroads.

[wildss]

hmm did you get the mandatoy 1 month for doing a certain amount of k's over and do all your points at the same time?
thats the only way you would get one month then 3 months or 12 months good behaviour.
vic roads do suspensions seperately they dont just add it all up.

thats the only thing i can think of

[daron]

sound slike you were aloud to drive the last month
take the 3 and then start fresh

[VicCop]

Talk to vicroads.

Yes, do that because you've completely confused me.

Your post almost reads as if you've been done for two different things.

[macca33]

I'll take a stab at it and say that you do have the one month to drive (in the interim), before you either stop for the 3 months, or take the 12-month gamble and continue to drive.

The option notice is sent as a result of your accumulation of demerit points, which does not directly relate, in suspension terms, to the initial speeding offence you received - it had a suspension component of itself, which was the one month.

cheers

[UNKNOWN]

I took the 12 month 1 point option and was fine. Just have to learn to drive like a nanna for a while!!! But your situation does sound a bit confusing! Almost like 2 punishments for 1 offense?

[macca33]

No, it can't simply be assumed to be two punishments for one offence; it is the original suspension for speeding, then a subsequent proposed one, for exceeding the number of allotted demerit points - a situation that may have occurred due to other infringements.

If the demerit option notice came as a result of, say a P-plater (with limited Demerit points at the start) doing a high speed that invoked the loss of more than the number of demerit points allotted to a P-plater, then it could be the case; but Noy's one-month suspension doesn't appear to indicate that to be the case, so he may have other previous indiscretions.

Cheers.

[leonthalion]

No, it can't simply be assumed to be two punishments for one offence; it is the original suspension for speeding, then a subsequent proposed one, for exceeding the number of allotted demerit points - a situation that may have occurred due to other infringements.

If the demerit option notice came as a result of, say a P-plater (with limited Demerit points at the start) doing a high speed that invoked the loss of more than the number of demerit points allotted to a P-plater, then it could be the case; but Noy's one-month suspension doesn't appear to indicate that to be the case, so he may have other previous indiscretions.

Cheers.

i agree, the police have suspended your licence for a month and the department transport wants to suspended it over loss of points.

[VicCop]

Now I get it. Speeding for 25+ over (1 month suspension) along with demerit points that have put you over for a three month with the option of a 12 month bond.

I took the 12 month 1 point option and was fine. Just have to learn to drive like a nanna for a while!!! But your situation does sound a bit confusing! Almost like 2 punishments for 1 offense?

No need for nanna driving. Just don't speed, don't talk on the phone and remember to put a seatbelt on. Then after 12 months of that, continue the habit.

It's two different punishments for two different things - initial offence of 25+ over on speed (well deserved) then the accumulation of demerit points. Any accumulation of 13 points means obviously you're due for a bit of a kick.

[Shounak]

Or 5 points. My brother lost his licence from 3 different speeding offences. Two were under 10kmh and one was about 13kmh.

He got pinged twice in one day, in the morning by a camera car and on his way home by a cop. Those 4 points in 1 day, in addition to his previous reprehensible 7kmh over landed him a gig with the Huffy for 3 months.

I made it through 3 years with 5 points, but it's tough. My mate stupidly floored it through traffic lights, got pinged for 12kmh and a red light ticket. He lost his licence for it.

Losing your licence on P plates isn't hard. Although if you get it on your fulls, it's well and truly deserved.

[Emackulation]

Speaking of Opens.....I GET MINE TODAY! Sorry for the thread hijack but I had to post this somewhere.

[VicCop]

Losing your licence on P plates isn't hard. Although if you get it on your fulls, it's well and truly deserved.

It should make no difference. I remember when I first got mine (long time ago, but not that long) I was dead set on keeping it. A probationary licensed driver should be taking even more care than a full licensed driver.

The reason for a three year 'probationary' period is to see if you can be trusted on the road. It's much like a training period to see whether or not you're suitable to be out there in control of what can be a deadly weapon.

[BANKS]

It should make no difference. I remember when I first got mine (long time ago, but not that long) I was dead set on keeping it. A probationary licensed driver should be taking even more care than a full licensed driver.

The reason for a three year 'probationary' period is to see if you can be trusted on the road. It's much like a training period to see whether or not you're suitable to be out there in control of what can be a deadly weapon.

have you ever lost your licence viccop? mate to mate here, not mate to cop

[VicCop]

have you ever lost your licence viccop? mate to mate here, not mate to cop

No, and I've held licences in two different states and been through five cars including the two I have now.

I've had my share of tickets that I could easily count on one hand. Each one of those I took and simply paid them. They were before I was in the job of course.

I have two licences currently - civilian licence and my police vehicle driving authority.

Which one do you think is easier to lose?

[BANKS]

No, and I've held licences in two different states and been through five cars including the two I have now.

I've had my share of tickets that I could easily count on one hand. Each one of those I took and simply paid them. They were before I was in the job of course.

I have two licences currently - civilian licence and my police vehicle driving authority.

Which one do you think is easier to lose?

police vehicle driving authority? you have to lead by example.

[VicCop]

police vehicle driving authority? you have to lead by example.

There's a lot of trust involved when you're given the go ahead to invoke road rule exemptions.

If I was to trip a speed/red light camera going through an intersection at 150 I wouldn't have much of a come back. I'd be put off the road and sent back to do the operational car course, or at least part of it and be re-assessed.

If I have a stack (police collision) there's a good chance it could be pulled immediately, depending on the circumstances.

[Vtwagoon]

Reading this thread title, I thought you were going to be asking questions like,
What do you do if you can't drive... hehe.

Take the 3month option, start clean. Personally I know, I wouldn't be able to drive for a year and not get caught. I'd be better off the road then on the road and cop it .(excuse the pun)

[Reaper]

There's a lot of trust involved when you're given the go ahead to invoke road rule exemptions.

If I was to trip a speed/red light camera going through an intersection at 150 I wouldn't have much of a come back. I'd be put off the road and sent back to do the operational car course, or at least part of it and be re-assessed.

If I have a stack (police collision) there's a good chance it could be pulled immediately, depending on the circumstances.

Besides the normal fine that anybody gets, are there any further penalties if you were caught speeding (say 10km over the limit?) in your own personal car whilst not on duty?

Cheers,
Reaper

[feistl]

Vicroads are ****ing useless. Anyway a while back i lost my license for speeding which was annoying. Anyway served the 12 months, went to get my license they said i owed 30 demerit points (on my Ps, so maximum of 5 :P). So they took my license again.

Only good thing was, loss of demerit points can be served together (Cant think of what its called), but basically it was only for the maximum of the highest offense (which happened to be 12 points). So i got it back a few months after that.

Stupid system though.

[VicCop]

Besides the normal fine that anybody gets, are there any further penalties if you were caught speeding (say 10km over the limit?) in your own personal car whilst not on duty?

Cheers,
Reaper

No, I get a ticket just like anyone else does and the same options apply.

[holdensupporter2005]

I was on the 12 months option and got caught doing 140 in november. I lost my license for 6 months over that (which ends next weekend). My question is when I get it back again will they take it off me again for the 12 months option thing or would they have combined the suspension?

[VicCop]

I was on the 12 months option and got caught doing 140 in november. I lost my license for 6 months over that (which ends next weekend). My question is when I get it back again will they take it off me again for the 12 months option thing or would they have combined the suspension?

Good question. I'd go through the legislation regarding the demerit points register but really can't be stuffed right now.

Ask VicRoads.

Another 5k over and it would have been 12 months and you would have lost your car for a couple of days.

[macca33]

You will definitely have to check with VicRoads about this, as they may add the 3 months for Demerit Point loss on top of the 6-month speeding fine loss, as a cumulative penalty.

Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't, so it is in your best interests to make a phone call to confirm it.

Cheers,

Macca

[Shounak]

Vicroads are very inconsistent with a lot of things.

1. My friend lost her licence in the first 12 months, she got a passenger restriction, whereas my brother didn't.

2. When I had my crash I was done for failing to give way. Vicroads didn't record the 3 points on my licence, but Civic Compliance had a record of the ticket. So for some reason I didn't get 3 points I should've got. 3.5 years ago so it's ok.

3. Same thing happened to my ex when she got pinged going 22kmh over the limit, it would've tipped her points over for a suspension, but they failed to record the points. Despite paying the ticket.

God knows what goes on in there.