Martial Arts

[Deutscher]

Hi guys,

Just wondering if anyone does any martial arts? and what type?

I've been thinking of doing martial arts for quite some time, just can't decide which one I would like to do. I've been to a couple classes to have a look but it seems all boring.... there is like no contact at all, like they kick but they have to be like 10-15cms away from actually touching someone..... what the hell.... hows that any fun?

There's nothing intense about it. I've recently seen the movie 'never back down', well I've watched it again last night and decided to have another try and look for something. Why does that place have a gym and stuff and it actually looks hard and fun. How you gon learn to defend yaself if you've never felt any pain, not like someone trying to bash will go easy on you or something, I recon if most of the people in these classes I seen got hit in the face once they'd be knocked out lol :P eh I think it's stupid. yer ok, you can have like padding etc etc which I could live with... but I don't want to just play fight like lil kids.

Do these places exist? like Never Back Down or and I looking for something that I'll never find? I went to the gym before and after doing the same thing it gets boring after awhile so I wanted to mix it up with some martial arts.

[minux]

If you want contact go do boxing, I only do it once a week but its a great stress outlet.

Unfortunately I think hollywood has got to you...

[Holdfast]

Hi guys,

Just wondering if anyone does any martial arts? and what type?

I've been thinking of doing martial arts for quite some time, just can't decide which one I would like to do. I've been to a couple classes to have a look but it seems all boring.... there is like no contact at all, like they kick but they have to be like 10-15cms away from actually touching someone..... what the hell.... hows that any fun?

There's nothing intense about it. I've recently seen the movie 'never back down', well I've watched it again last night and decided to have another try and look for something. Why does that place have a gym and stuff and it actually looks hard and fun. How you gon learn to defend yaself if you've never felt any pain, not like someone trying to bash will go easy on you or something, I recon if most of the people in these classes I seen got hit in the face once they'd be knocked out lol :P eh I think it's stupid. yer ok, you can have like padding etc etc which I could live with... but I don't want to just play fight like lil kids.

Do these places exist? like Never Back Down or and I looking for something that I'll never find? I went to the gym before and after doing the same thing it gets boring after awhile so I wanted to mix it up with some martial arts.

Mate if you want some serious action and can handle a bit of pain try Kempo Karate.

[Deutscher]

HAHA, yer I thought that myself. But it would be cool :P I've thought boxing but it's only punches I wanted something with mixing.

I'm sure other people think the same as me, wouldn't they?

Why would you want to play fight?

[calais_304]

i'd suggest trying muay thai.

[Kikki]

My kids do Martial Arts.....kinda glad they only play fight

There is so much more to it than just beating the **** out of someone.

[Holdfast]

HAHA, yer I thought that myself. But it would be cool :P I've thought boxing but it's only punches I wanted something with mixing.

I'm sure other people think the same as me, wouldn't they?

Why would you want to play fight?

Mate, go to a demonstration, you'll be convinced, there's plenty of contact, it's a no nonsense "Art" and not for the faint hearted.

But be warned, there's some nasty blows. If you have extremely quick reflexes and a good solid build then it may be for you. Tolerance to pain is a must and you'll need to get use to lots of bruises.

It's not an art for the very young; a build up from say 'Tae Quan Do' or Karate for a few years is great for kids but if you are already fit and strong then go for it.

By fit I mean, fit in mind and body.

Be able to run about 5km in about 17.5 - 18 minutes, about 60 pushups in a minute, about 120 situps, 20 chinups in one go and be flexible.

Anaerobic fitness is a must so wind sprints etc and plenty of stair or hill work would get you in basic shape.

Be prepared for minor breaks and sprains and time off work.


YouTube - Shorinji Kempo Power



YouTube - SUMO VS. KEMPO

Have a look at the last half of the flick

or you may prefer this:
YouTube - Jeet Kune Do Master

[Emackulation]

My kids do Martial Arts.....kinda glad they only play fight

There is so much more to it than just beating the **** out of someone.

Yeah fair enough for kiddies, but there should be a upper level for the big kiddies who wunna kick some anoose.

[azkwazere]

The true point of a good martial art is to avoid the fight altogether...

"...Fighting without fighting" B.Lee

All those crazy movies you see with people leaping over each other while doing 540 side kicks and stuff is just show and good corography(sp?)

Depends on what style you want to learn...

each has there own ups and downs...

Eg.

Karate - Very solid and formed martial art but lacks any throws, fall work and a lot of fluid in motion.

Kung Fu - Very fast, great traps, A LOT of variations, EXTREMLY fluid however is very difficult to learn, very technical and lacks alot of throws again...

Judo - Great for self defence, 90% throws + traps etc. Can be slow, not great for offence.

etc. etc...

find your style and then go from there.

Full contact isnt the be-all and end all....

aZk.

[Emackulation]

The true point of a good martial art is to avoid the fight altogether...

"...Fighting without fighting" B.Lee

All those crazy movies you see with people leaping over each other while doing 540 side kicks and stuff is just show and good corography(sp?)

Depends on what style you want to learn...

each has there own ups and downs...

Eg.

Karate - Very solid and formed martial art but lacks any throws, fall work and a lot of fluid in motion.

Kung Fu - Very fast, great traps, A LOT of variations, EXTREMLY fluid however is very difficult to learn, very technical and lacks alot of throws again...

Judo - Great for self defence, 90% throws + traps etc. Can be slow, not great for offence.

etc. etc...

find your style and then go from there.

Full contact isnt the be-all and end all....

aZk.

kUNG fU sounds fun, I woudner how much it is to start it up...

[Deutscher]

My kids do Martial Arts.....kinda glad they only play fight

There is so much more to it than just beating the **** out of someone.

haha, I'm not interested in beating people up (unless they start it). Just want to be able to defend myself properly and get some actual experience. I've always fought my brother when we were younger and he broke my finger etc but that's what someone is going to do when you get into a fight.

I want fitness and fun at the same time. Gym doesn't quite have that.

[Emackulation]

I want to be a killing machine, who can teach me Kung Fu.

[Troy711]

i did karate for about 5 years with GKR. i made it to red belt (3 away from black in their system) but chucked it in soon after. now i wish i didnt, i actually enjoyed it and (not pulling my chain) if i was still doing it id be fairly high up by now.

[VRV8_Matt]

I did ju-jitsu years ago and it was alright.

It's mainly throws and grapples to defend yourself though.
I got to brown belt (1 below black) then gave up cause i had to wait a few years to get my black (gotta be 18)
It was pretty intense to get a black belt though. my old man did it - 6 hours straight of
fighting people. there were blokes who broke bones, suffered exhaustion and spewed up etc.

[cxcxcxvcvcvc]

Mate if your looking to learn kung-fu then i recommend this place, The teacher there (Henry sue) is a 9th degree grandmaster and has a gold belt status in china (highest rank in china) and was recently requested to the shaolin temple by the shaolin moks ect anyway heres a link to the site!
Grandmaster Henry Sue's Praying Mantis Kung Fu & Tai Chi

[Steery]

muay thai. did it for a couple of months last year and i have a mate whose been doing it for years.
its thai boxing, its essentially a form of kickboxing (thats the most understandable way of putting it)

it involves punches, kicks, elbows, knees and protective positions and standard defence.

however, you need a tall punching bag and you need to be willing to train at home aswell as at the gym for it to be effective.

[Deutscher]

muay thai. did it for a couple of months last year and i have a mate whose been doing it for years.
its thai boxing, its essentially a form of kickboxing (thats the most understandable way of putting it)

it involves punches, kicks, elbows, knees and protective positions and standard defence.

however, you need a tall punching bag and you need to be willing to train at home aswell as at the gym for it to be effective.

sounds good. I would put the effort in. Does it contain offensive attacks? reason for asking is that a lot of martial arts just has defensive moves and a fight can only last for a certain time and if you just block, throw, lock the opponent... it's not going to end.

[Deutscher]

First I thought about mixed martial arts, because it had a bit of everything, the class I watched doing it....was a little boring (students), didn't see a professional guy do it tho.
I did (a lonnnng time ago) a bit of Karate, for a few weeks, it just was boring as hell, my mate is black belt karate (been doing it since he was young) and he says its really boring aswell.

[vlv8vic]

2nd Dan in Zen Do Kai. Don't think there are many places around that do it anymore. Pity. Lots of discipline.

[Steery]

muay thai is mainly offensive.
a mix of muay thai and brazilian jiu jitsu is one of the most effective combos in UFC.

[GOTMYN]

2nd Dan in Zen Do Kai. Don't think there are many places around that do it anymore. Pity. Lots of discipline.

Who did you Train with?
Heard of Silvio Morelli? Blitz Magazine? He used to Train Geido Kai to a selected few... I did 10 yrs with him, he is and was a machine...

2nd dan is very impressive!! well done..!!

[sircruisealotVS]

look into wing chun mate, very much a hands-on contact form of martial arts. serious students condition and train parts of the body for combat, particularly the fists, fore arms and shins so they can take the punishment of full contact sparring.
its a very quick close style of fighting, most "real" kung fu movies (as in the foreign ones) will use wing chun in them so you've probably seen wing chun done before.

[Deutscher]

Thx guys for the inputs. I'll get if some of these styles are around my area (Perth). Mostly its karate, taekwondo around. But I guess some of the little academys may be less restricted

[sleek_vp]

mate go for boxing, its the hardest contact sport there is and the best, i did it for 8 months (i should still be doing it) and loved it before my work decided to throw me on nights anyway its way more than just punching, when i went i had to run around 2 soccer fields twice before the trainer would let me in the training room, then we had to air box, different sorts of squats and sit ups, flexibility activites, muscle straining activities (hold arms out to the side& move around and around and lots more involved to that), then theirs learning all the types of punching& combinations and learning to use a medicine ball, speed bag and skipping rope (properly), people think that boxing is just punching but its far from it and in that time i went i witnessed each class tear more& more people down to literally being unable to lift their arms, if you choose boxing it will realy show you what your made off

[sircruisealotVS]

mate go for boxing, its the hardest contact sport there is and the best, i did it for 8 months (i should still be doing it) and loved it before my work decided to throw me on nights anyway its way more than just punching, when i went i had to run around 2 soccer fields twice before the trainer would let me in the training room, then we had to air box, different sorts of squats and sit ups, flexibility activites, muscle straining activities (hold arms out to the side& move around and around and lots more involved to that), then theirs learning all the types of punching& combinations and learning to use a medicine ball, speed bag and skipping rope (properly), people think that boxing is just punching but its far from it and in that time i went i witnessed each class tear more& more people down to literally being unable to lift their arms, if you choose boxing it will realy show you what your made off

boxing is pretty tiring and is a good workout, but you use pads, bags, bandages and crap to protect your hands. ever used a Muk Yang Jong (wooden man/wooden dummy) before? try punching and kicking one of them for a session and see how you feel after
they're used to condition parts of your body for full contact and they ****ing hurt like a bastard at first (think punching and kicking a tree at full strength repeatedly).
there's alot of pain involved in the training for wing chun, the conditioning you go through is hectic.
it always makes me laugh when you see people using training pads and stuff to hit - if you ever need to use your skills for real your not going to be hitting soft foam filled pads and there's not going to be much give in them to cushion the blow. so why train yourself and your body to expect that? part of training should also be the conditioning of yourself to be able to take the effects of giving and recieving a hit - not just learning the motions.