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    Talking Tuned !!!!!

    Just got my XR6T back from Xtreme Ford Tuning today and...WOW!
    its amazing what an extra 6psi og boost and some new injectors make
    made 210kw stock, now making 257.9kw at 11.4 fluctuating to 12 psi of boost. now all i need is a dry day
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    yeh, insurance dosnt want to let me have an aftermarket IC
    cat, dump and exhaust is next stop. should get an extra 30-40rwkw from that.
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    i dunno about 40rwkw from the cat and exhaust. Iv got s high flow cat and xorst on the vs. Im expexting about 10kw gain.

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    damn thats a fairly decent gain from just a tune, with the exhaust thats prob the best way to go with gettin a fair bit more fun out of it, should start spoolin up earlier aswell with the full system on there

    at work there was a bf tyhoon with a full stainless system on it, was a 4" dump pipe with a single 3.5" system all the way through, the thing started spoolin at about 1800rpm

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    yeh myn starts spooling at about 2000 but dosnt hit decent boost till bout 3500rpm.
    Classifi3d Calais, the reason its such a gain is my car is using forced induction. a bigger and better flowing exhaust allows the car to breath better and spool hard, faster and hit higher PSI (probs run around 15psi after cat and dump pipe).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Torquen View Post
    yeh, insurance dosnt want to let me have an aftermarket IC
    simple answer, change insurance companies
    what they dont know cant hurt them lol

    what size injectors did it originally have? 50rwkw from a tune and injectors its bullpoo gains! well done '

    so theres a possible 300rwkw from this car with just simple bolt ons?

    gonna cost me like $10000 to reach those figures



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    Quote Originally Posted by Torquen View Post
    yeh myn starts spooling at about 2000 but dosnt hit decent boost till bout 3500rpm.
    Classifi3d Calais, the reason its such a gain is my car is using forced induction. a bigger and better flowing exhaust allows the car to breath better and spool hard, faster and hit higher PSI (probs run around 15psi after cat and dump pipe).
    ah got you, I didnt think about the extra boost. I just thought about the restriction being reduced. But it makes sense

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    Quote Originally Posted by Banks View Post
    simple answer, change insurance companies
    what they dont know cant hurt them lol

    what size injectors did it originally have? 50rwkw from a tune and injectors its bullpoo gains! well done '

    so theres a possible 300rwkw from this car with just simple bolt ons?

    gonna cost me like $10000 to reach those figures
    lol, yeh other insuarnce companies want more dorras though.

    yeh once i get cat and dump pipe on and new IC (shhhhhhhh lol) in it will make 320rwkw.
    easy answer for you....go FI!!! S/C FTW!!!
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    Love XR6T,s they make power so easily with a few mods,(same as the ls1)would be the only car i would look @ getting after the calais or maybe a VX SS!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cxcxcxvcvcvc View Post
    Love XR6T,s they make power so easily with a few mods,(same as the ls1)would be the only car i would look @ getting after the calais or maybe a VX SS!!
    The funny things is, with 320rwkw in the XR6T is as slow as around a 280 rwkw NA LS1.

    Seriously, power means **** all, the quicker people realise this the better. Get a time slip so people can be impressed
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    Quote Originally Posted by minux View Post
    The funny things is, with 320rwkw in the XR6T is as slow as around a 280 rwkw NA LS1.

    Seriously, power means **** all, the quicker people realise this the better. Get a time slip so people can be impressed
    Curious, how does that work?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Banks View Post
    Curious, how does that work?
    Just because you ahve a set power figure at a certain rpm does not mean it makes power all through a rev range. An NA V8 pulls torque from initial acceleration using the power it has right through the range. A turbo 6 with similar power usually has no bottom end and takes longer to get into its power range.
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    If i could find the time slips i'd post them up. 2 friends of mine, one owns a VT II Calais, cam only 3.9's and auto. Other owns BFII XR6T, 3.9's, auto. Calais has 272rwkw, Falcon has 328rwkw. Both drivers did runs at calder in each others cars. Best for the Holden by the ford driver was 11.18 and by the Holden driver 11.01. Best for the Ford by the Holden driver was 11.33 and Ford driver did it in 11.301. Ogh 60 foot times the holden was ALWAYS at least .3 sec quicker.

    PS: This story is with no excuses(I know how often we hear of turbo drivers "struggling" to get traction)
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    Quote Originally Posted by minux View Post
    Just because you ahve a set power figure at a certain rpm does not mean it makes power all through a rev range. An NA V8 pulls torque from initial acceleration using the power it has right through the range. A turbo 6 with similar power usually has no bottom end and takes longer to get into its power range.
    I see your point. I looked into some reviews on the Toyota Aurion thinking 200kw from a NA V6! Awesome. All the reviews stated it wasn't until you were up in the 6000rpm range that you started to see the 200kw. But having said that you're getting some good returns for a tune. I'm glad you're happy with it. Wish I had some spare cash to mod the L67.
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    Quote Originally Posted by minux View Post
    Just because you ahve a set power figure at a certain rpm does not mean it makes power all through a rev range. An NA V8 pulls torque from initial acceleration using the power it has right through the range. A turbo 6 with similar power usually has no bottom end and takes longer to get into its power range.
    The turbo 6 having no bottom end depends on the turbo size also, smaller turbos will usually come on at lower rpm etc.....

    Funny that people sit back and go "yeh my car has like 350rwkw on the dyno" then lose to a lower powered car at the drags.... usually the same people who strap the biggest turbo possible to street cars and wonder why they have to redline every gear to get anywhere...

    Nice zorst and better Fmic should give you a nice kick in the pants Pretty impressive power from just a few small mods as well. If I had the spare $$$ I would've loved an XR6T.... decent sized engine with a nice snail mmmmm

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    Quote Originally Posted by TTRMC View Post
    The turbo 6 having no bottom end depends on the turbo size also, smaller turbos will usually come on at lower rpm etc.....

    Funny that people sit back and go "yeh my car has like 350rwkw on the dyno" then lose to a lower powered car at the drags.... usually the same people who strap the biggest turbo possible to street cars and wonder why they have to redline every gear to get anywhere...

    Nice zorst and better Fmic should give you a nice kick in the pants Pretty impressive power from just a few small mods as well. If I had the spare $$$ I would've loved an XR6T.... decent sized engine with a nice snail mmmmm
    Agreed there, power isnt everything, how it is delivered is where you win or lose a race.

    Your right though, it is great power from small mods, not disputing that, I just like to see 1/4 times to show the true power of a car. No point having 600rwkw when you can only run 12's
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    Quote Originally Posted by Torquen View Post
    yeh myn starts spooling at about 2000 but dosnt hit decent boost till bout 3500rpm.
    Classifi3d Calais, the reason its such a gain is my car is using forced induction. a bigger and better flowing exhaust allows the car to breath better and spool hard, faster and hit higher PSI (probs run around 15psi after cat and dump pipe).
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    minux, was chatting to the tuner and the cars he's done that have very similar power figures to myn (say 5kw difference) will run 13.00-13.60 depending on auto/manual and obviously driver. myn being a manual will be a bit slower (the ZF auto is a ****ing awsum box) so with a good launch and precise gear changes id be hoping to get around the 13.3 mark for 1/4 mile. drags re-open in september so im itching to find out
    But yeh KW dosnt allways equel good 1/4mile times. its power to weight, good transfer of the power to the road and a nice torque curve will get you good 1/4 mile times.
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    Ahh I get it now , always knew you could have 500hp eng but its getting it to the ground etc, but I never that about how the car actually delivers that power, torque wise. Hence why I thought 320kw would have beat 280kw.

    So what would a turbo ford have to do to achieve the same times as a 280kw LS1 running low to mid 11's?


    Quote Originally Posted by minux View Post
    Just because you ahve a set power figure at a certain rpm does not mean it makes power all through a rev range. An NA V8 pulls torque from initial acceleration using the power it has right through the range. A turbo 6 with similar power usually has no bottom end and takes longer to get into its power range.
    Quote Originally Posted by minux View Post
    If i could find the time slips i'd post them up. 2 friends of mine, one owns a VT II Calais, cam only 3.9's and auto. Other owns BFII XR6T, 3.9's, auto. Calais has 272rwkw, Falcon has 328rwkw. Both drivers did runs at calder in each others cars. Best for the Holden by the ford driver was 11.18 and by the Holden driver 11.01. Best for the Ford by the Holden driver was 11.33 and Ford driver did it in 11.301. Ogh 60 foot times the holden was ALWAYS at least .3 sec quicker.

    PS: This story is with no excuses(I know how often we hear of turbo drivers "struggling" to get traction)



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    ford has it sorted, they finally realised they cant make a fast car with a final drive ratio less than 3.00. the fi6 is the best thing that has happened to ford in the past few years that has walloped most v8's in stock form.. i think they were originally 14.5 second cars when they first came out now there quicker? got to admit it puts every hsv (except ve walkinshaw supercharged) v8 to shame considering its a 4 litre running 6 pounds boost against a 6 litre.

    The ford v8's on the other hand, 4 cams, full alloy block, etc and they still cant make the things boogie. my vq v8 was half a car length behind a ba-bf fairlane, that says something.

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    the new FG range uses 10psi stock.
    id like to see a "CAM ONLY" LS1 run an 11 second pass, id say you would need a bit more than that regardless of the setup its running due to the weight of the car... but hey if its true, top work!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Torquen View Post
    the new FG range uses 10psi stock.
    id like to see a "CAM ONLY" LS1 run an 11 second pass, id say you would need a bit more than that regardless of the setup its running due to the weight of the car... but hey if its true, top work!
    of course its true...there are UNOPENED LS1's running mid 12's ffs in FULL STREET TRIM. Spare, fuel seats etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vnv8driver View Post
    ford has it sorted, they finally realised they cant make a fast car with a final drive ratio less than 3.00. the fi6 is the best thing that has happened to ford in the past few years that has walloped most v8's in stock form.. i think they were originally 14.5 second cars when they first came out now there quicker? got to admit it puts every hsv (except ve walkinshaw supercharged) v8 to shame considering its a 4 litre running 6 pounds boost against a 6 litre.

    The ford v8's on the other hand, 4 cams, full alloy block, etc and they still cant make the things boogie. my vq v8 was half a car length behind a ba-bf fairlane, that says something.
    Actually, the quickest media tested street car available off the shelf by an Aussie maker is the LS3 Senator(without using bull**** non factory tunes).
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    Quote Originally Posted by minux View Post
    Actually, the quickest media tested street car available off the shelf by an Aussie maker is the LS3 Senator(without using bull**** non factory tunes).
    what about the new hsv W427

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