bad new's for the blue team

[burnz]

AU~FG ford has a problem with cancer (rust)
Australian Ford Forums - Territory and Rust

[TA 91 WA]

HAHAA!

That is some bad rust.

[burnz]

when you read the whole thread they have photo's from the AU to the F6X.
and the F6X, fpv's new wepon has photo's. at the brisbane motorshow showing rust!!!
i dont feel this is something to gloat about, as they are trying to export, showing ozzy enginuity.

[Kikki]

Sucks to be them, some of that rust is really bad.

But you cant go saying Ha Ha Ford, it happens to most cars, just not normally to that extent and that many of them at that younger age lol.

[Grennan]

I laugh at ford everytime i go into my friends work, everytime im there theres always a freshly changed headgasket sitting under their bonet.

[50LTRv8]

I laugh at ford everytime i go into my friends work, everytime im there theres always a freshly changed headgasket sitting under their bonet.

Dude it is posts like this that annoy me. I am sorry but you belovered holden is not the reliable gem you think it is. Both ford and holden cars are made to a price and ford have dropped the ball in this case. As for fords and head gaskets, most of the time it was because the cooling system was not looked after properly, a story for another day.

I have had my VT Calais 1 year, 1 radiator, 1 power window switch, 1 stereo, Power steering leaking and it rains in my boot when the sky is falling everytime I open it.

Ford have alot to answer for for these guys. People spending alot of money on cars that should never have these issues. Aussie car makers simply do not do enough as far as quality control goes.

50LTRv8

[CANYONERO]

rust like that is unacceptable with the era of cars there talking about. if my car had rust like that no matter what brand i wouldnt go back.

[nicko]

faulty parts are going to happen thats a given, but rust is a no no. Did u see that photo of the BF XR 2 days after taking delivery and it had rust. WTF

[CANYONERO]

faulty parts are going to happen thats a given, but rust is a no no. Did u see that photo of the BF XR 2 days after taking delivery and it had rust. WTF

no joke if i owned that i would be goin off!

[pow3rslave]

i think this is just proof that the garbage ford makes is biodegradable, in a few more years it will have rotted down to compost, then they'll use that compost to grow a new batch of falcons :P

[Farlig]

far out, id scream for a full respray and rust proofing.

[Not_An_Abba_Fan]

i think this is just proof that the garbage ford makes is biodegradable, in a few more years it will have rotted down to compost, then they'll use that compost to grow a new batch of falcons :P

I don't think you have seen the amount of threads on this forum bagging the build quality of Commodores. A car is a car, it is made of steel, steel rusts.

[1991_Vn2nV]

If that happens to the FG Falcons as well, they might end up with the same second hand safety rating as a VE commodore

[Full Spectrum]

Rust on them is usually common around the spare wheel, But this is new to me.
I must say it's pretty bad on today's newer cars.. Something you would expect from the VN-VP EA-EB days.

I must giggle a touch, IF the shoe was on the other foot, I'm sure we would know about it,
How many jokes did we cop from the VE recalls?.

I got some **** for the VE, And i didn't own one, Guy told me i was going to burn when my engine caught fire?, Ohh, Ok then, Don't own a VE, But they all catch fire from faulty injectors?, I better send it to holden fast, I was waiting for the seatbelt joke then.

[dijm8]

damnn, i shall check my mums territory, hopefully thers nothing

[TMM]

Dude it is posts like this that annoy me. I am sorry but you belovered holden is not the reliable gem you think it is. Both ford and holden cars are made to a price and ford have dropped the ball in this case. As for fords and head gaskets, most of the time it was because the cooling system was not looked after properly, a story for another day.

I have had my VT Calais 1 year, 1 radiator, 1 power window switch, 1 stereo, Power steering leaking and it rains in my boot when the sky is falling everytime I open it.

Ford have alot to answer for for these guys. People spending alot of money on cars that should never have these issues. Aussie car makers simply do not do enough as far as quality control goes.

50LTRv8

Agreed.

Did u see that photo of the BF XR 2 days after taking delivery and it had rust. WTF

Just because it was purchased doesn't mean it had just rolled off the factory line. It probably had been sitting around in the yard rusting for ages. Theres probably less chance of rusting after purchase because the cars are stored in dry garages.

[nicko]

Agreed.


Just because it was purchased doesn't mean it had just rolled off the factory line. It probably had been sitting around in the yard rusting for ages. Theres probably less chance of rusting after purchase because the cars are stored in dry garages.

I dont expect a new car to be rusting the second it rolls off the production line mate! My vt is prob 9 years old now and it lives outside its not rusting like that. Its just a huge design fault that allows water to sit in one spot for extremely long periods so to me that screams poor quality.

[dijm8]

yep my mums car has cancer.....im taking it straight to ford 2mw and give them a blast...so much for that rust protector....does it even work.....waste of money me thinks

[50LTRv8]

yep my mums car has cancer.....im taking it straight to ford 2mw and give them a blast...so much for that rust protector....does it even work.....waste of money me thinks

Rust protecter will simply not work with bare metal.

Even fish oil will only slow it. All metal parts need to be sealed with paint, simple as that

[dijm8]

well gotta take the ford back next week, dealers will take a few photos of it, then find a solution from ther.... also have found more rust in the engine bay...so i bloody get a respray done....car was bought brand new and only 20k on the clock....bloody fords

[vnv8driver]

no use in bagging ford when holden is just as bad, if not worse.

[Not_An_Abba_Fan]

A car doesn't roll off the production line with rust. Once it's built it may sit around for 3 months before it even makes it to a dealers yard. There is no excuse for rust on a new car, but there is a lot of bare metal that covered by seals and trim. There is no paint protection, it doesn't get washed once a week either. Surface rust develops. It is at the pre delivery stage that it should be found and attended to before sale. If you want to blame anyone, blame the delivering dealer, not the manufacturer.

Example, my new Outlander had to have the bonnet resprayed 2 weeks after I got it. When it came off the ship a bird crapped on the bonnet, a black car, sunshine and bird crap don't mix. It was polished out but had already eaten into the paint and the mark came back. This can be classed as defective too if you want, but had nothing to do with the manufacturing.

[vnv8driver]

if you get no water or moisture on the car, yep no rust. I havent worked at a holden or ford dealership, but i have worked in a joint mitsu/merc/honda/suzuki yard which, yeah they sit around for a while but i have never ever seen surface rust on a newly delivered car. even after its been sitting in a yard for a few weeks.

Its called model faults, you can shame ford but what about the wb ute from the 80's?? they have the WORST model fault ever, water collects in the tray & causes rusting of the tray/rear of the cab.... what about vn-vp commodores?? rattly, leaky, rusty around windscreens *&wheel wells....


The truth is ford make alot better quality cars, they may not of had the art in earlier series (making them fast/handle/look good) but you could pick on any model car for faults but holden is most definitely above *EDIT* ford. Id rather a motor built by ford than by holden, its clear since the xf that they have better building standards.

The only thing that keeps me buying them is there cheap, go good and look good.

[vnv8driver]

I laugh at ford everytime i go into my friends work, everytime im there theres always a freshly changed headgasket sitting under their bonet.

That comment is either over exaturated or your mates workshop doesnt know how to fit a headgasket correctly. a ford inline 6 headgasket has just as much chance as a holden headgasket going if the motors temperature is under control, i admit the fords made a stupid idea of mixing alloy with cast but they still work a treat if the cars running in gc.

[1991_Vn2nV]

A car doesn't roll off the production line with rust. Once it's built it may sit around for 3 months before it even makes it to a dealers yard. There is no excuse for rust on a new car, but there is a lot of bare metal that covered by seals and trim. There is no paint protection, it doesn't get washed once a week either. Surface rust develops. It is at the pre delivery stage that it should be found and attended to before sale. If you want to blame anyone, blame the delivering dealer, not the manufacturer.

Example, my new Outlander had to have the bonnet resprayed 2 weeks after I got it. When it came off the ship a bird crapped on the bonnet, a black car, sunshine and bird crap don't mix. It was polished out but had already eaten into the paint and the mark came back. This can be classed as defective too if you want, but had nothing to do with the manufacturing.

On a one off occasion, yes blame the delivering dealer. But there is obviously an underlying problem here with so many rust issues so there is something for the manufacturer to answer for.

How the manufacturer is judged, should be on how they DEAL with the problem though.

Toyota had a bunch of REALLY bad rust issues on 10 year old cars in the states, one particular model. The replaced them with brand new vehicles and these cars were out of warranty (but the rust was bloody bad).